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Dissociatives [Ketamine Subthread] Dosage and Methods of Administration

silentscience said:
Never, ever, ever go shopping at wall mart while in a heavy K-Hole. I did it today and it was like walking through hell. :(
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When I K-hole I lose kontact with my body (you know dissociative). I don't understand how you can be walking, unless you are just using the K-hole term as some kind of fancy way to talk about taking ketamine bumps.
 
by K-hole I mean a 1/4 gram line early in the morning before shopping. And having to walk amongst the demons. And the seconds seem like hours. :>
 
^^^ ooh i sort of know what you're talking about. my gf and i did a little too much (as in, it hit harder than expected) in the car before walking into a party and saying hello to people was pure chaos. but god damn, how can you even walk on 250mg? %)
 
can anyone give me tips about how to make the most of IM ketamine? I tend to forget big chunks of the experience and it always seems too short.
 
spacenomad said:
can anyone give me tips about how to make the most of IM ketamine? I tend to forget big chunks of the experience and it always seems too short.
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You can't really make an experience last longer than you can with IM except through oral administration, and that really isn't recommeded because it's hard on the stomach. If you're forgetting large chunks of the experience the only real thing you can do to remedy the situation is take a lower dose. Perhaps you could try doing 2/3 of your usual dose and then topping with the final third when the experience starts to wind down if you're capable of using a needle at that point (or get it racked up in to a line in advance and sniff it when needed).
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
You can't really make an experience last longer than you can with IM except through oral administration, and that really isn't recommeded because it's hard on the stomach. If you're forgetting large chunks of the experience the only real thing you can do to remedy the situation is take a lower dose. Perhaps you could try doing 2/3 of your usual dose and then topping with the final third when the experience starts to wind down if you're capable of using a needle at that point (or get it racked up in to a line in advance and sniff it when needed).
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I tried the method you suggested, but I still forgot too much. I took 80mg first then half an hour later took 30mg, both IM. That was one of my most forgettable trips.

Would it help if i drank like, 500mg of it? Like, pull out all the ketamine from the vial in a syringe into a glass and drink it? Will it help with remembering the experience and prolong it any? And is it okay to drink it directly?

As for depression, I'm of mixed opinions. Thanks to ketamine I don't feel suicidal anymore. But I've noticed that whenever I come back from the k hole there's this strange feeling of loneliness that nothing can compare to. I never feel so lonely as I do after a k hole. anyone else get that loneliness? It's like I'm the only person with a soul in the entire world and everything is just a simulation in my mind.

Are there any meditation techniques or anything that can help me get the most out of the k hole? plus any other drug I can take that can help me remember more?
 
The IV experience wasn't overwhelming, but HOLY JAHEEZUS nasal administration with significantly higher doses led to a mental implosion. Will work on IM later this week, once a good spike is found.
 
Preparing Pure Powder Ketamine for IM injection.

I was very hesitant in regards to making this thread, but in all honesty I've been searching for the past hour and have not found the information I have been seeking.


How would one take pure Ketamine powder (Anaket labs, I believe its HCL), and prepare it for a safe IM injection? Is this possible?

There's of course no urgency attached to this question, I get by fine with the old fashioned methods of insufflation. I was just curious if this were possible, if the powder was soluble in sterile saline, and what type of precautions should be taken in undertaking such an endeavor.

Once again, if this thread is out of bounds you all have my most heartfelt of apoligies. Thanks again.

2c
 
Ketamine is soluble in water, I'm positive.
If it's really pure, then I think just a really serious grind, then make sure it's completely dissolved then probably filter is all you'd need to do.
Injecting isn't something I have any experience of, though.
 
Yea, I've never injected anything before myself. Although an IM ketamine injection is something I may try in the near future, I suppose I'll have to read up on the basics and about micron filters and all that. I'm mulling it over in my head. Thanks for the advice.
 
shit I get chloride crystals and just throw some water in the micro wave, then throw some crystals in the hot water and pull it up and shoot it till Im physicaly unable to repeat the process... then repeat when Im able to again.

with ketamine its not that big of a deal to shoot to much Iv easily done 1/2 grams at a time and all that happends is you just over shoot and forget what happend.
if you want to be "safe"

then get a clean new needle, which is ahrd for ketamine because those inciline needles arnt realy big enough, you want the big boy ones used for flue shots and stuff.

but once you aquire a new needle, make your solution but messuring maybe 80mg of ketamine and putting it into a shot glass, then add warm distilled water to another shot glass, suck the water into the needle and squirt it into the ketamine shot glass, then use a filter or peice of cotton and suck the ketamine solution through that piece of cotton. you can squish teh cotton around to absorb all the solution and then just suck from taht if you wish.

befor you inject clean the area witha steril alcohol pad (like a wet nap).

now IM isnt as good as IV, so to IV do everything as stated but then tie your arm abovbe the elbo joint, slap the elbo crease untill the vien pops out, aim and fire, you'll feel two "pricks" one goes through the skin, the other through teh vein. then pull alil blood in, push alil solution out, pull alil more blood so you know you are stil in the vein and then push thr rest of the solution in slowly but dont stop and enjoy the view, make sure it is done in a timely fashion but not so fast that you push the vein off. then raise your arm and reliese the tie and wave your arm around alil bit.
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NOW enjoy the high thats like now other. n2o in a needle. :)
 
Carsick said:
I've read (and heard personal accounts) that IV ketamine is a waste because you tend to just black out. IM is apparently where it's at.
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well Iv IVed oz's of ketamine and it is MUCH better. IM is like a faster nasal ketamine experience. IV is something new alltogether.

as Iv said, IV ketamine is like nothing else. its closer to a longer more intregrated nitrous experience then nasal ketamine.
 
Youkai said:
well Iv IVed oz's of ketamine and it is MUCH better. IM is like a faster nasal ketamine experience. IV is something new alltogether.

as Iv said, IV ketamine is like nothing else. its closer to a longer more intregrated nitrous experience then nasal ketamine.
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I understand how useful nitrous can be during the onset of ketamine but if IV'ing ketamine produced anything so dull as nitrous, I wouldn't have spent hundreds of hours encouraging K use.
 
SpellmanT7 said:
I understand how useful nitrous can be during the onset of ketamine but if IV'ing ketamine produced anything so dull as nitrous, I wouldn't have spent hundreds of hours encouraging K use.
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its like nitrous squared. its full on intergration
 
Nitrous on it's own almos never produces anything worthwhile for me.
Nitrous combined with any psychedelic provides full on integration, if that's how you want to put it. Acid seemingly the most and then complete reality disintegration.
K can get very weird. I rarely reach the point of the self dissolution. I easily get to the point of reality radically altertered and overlaid with my reinterpretions of it. This often takes the form of very literal cartoon interpretations of my environment. This especially encompasses any emotive images in my surroundings.
 
^Agreed.

Nitrous has always been a catalyst to for me, always unique to the caliber drug being used. Oblivion but a breath away.
 
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