ok, I'm writing this post and I hope that the answer was not just lying in BL archives 
It's a bit of trip report ('usual' trip) and bit of a question. Mods, if you feel this thread belongs to Trip reports, please move it there.
So, ketamine. I took the staff about 10 times in my life (more or less 7 times from last august to april). The experience got worse and worse, so I'm currently on hyatus - it was more something I did with my GF when she was feeling like & we had not other plans for the evening. I will talk now about experiences in the last year. We've got a 5 grams batch. We always used that one, and the stuff seemed to be ketamine (she is more experienced than me and swears so. I tested it with Mandelin reagent, the stuff turned orangey). Dosage was .75 mg/lb IM (for the first experiences), got up to 1 mg/lb IM (maybe more for my GF) towards the end. No other drug was usally taken together (maybe a little alcohol, but i tended to avoid it if I knew i would have been doing K). Setting = lying in the bed. We experimented with more or less light, more or less stuff around to watch, and differend kinds of music (no films or the suchlike, no people around us, nothing. Usually dim lights. I have a nice color changing lamp, and that was quite an improvement for our setting)
Ok, enough blah blah. This is the point: my first experience with K (another batch, though) was ecstatic. I really remember it being blessed: no unpleasant effect, only a long mind movie and cuddling with my gf. And what is what a good trip still is for me, on K: she shoots me. After 2-3 minutes i feel melting into the bed, and if everything is ok then i feel litterally projected in some direction (upward, or forward). Then it is really mind movie, and if I'm lucky it's eye candy. I don't really feel my body at the beginning - it's more like my consciousness is wired into a VR environment, and the music is creating what I see. Sudden guitar blast? Maybe I will see earthquakes shaking my kspace. Pitch going up? I will fly, too. The music repeats with a somewhat circular structure? I am spinning as a merry-go-round.
If i played a lot some videogame (like Minecraft or Deus ex), visuals will be DEFINITELY in that style. After a while the experience gets less strong, and if I open my eyes look at the white walls i MIGHT have open eyes visuals, like patterns growing on the wall or icicles growing from the ceiling. Also looking at something like the pattern of the sheets is cool. My gf looks usually like ET (lol). When the strong visual effect subsides, sometimes I start having waves of feelings of being lost in the mist/stranded - something that recalls me panic/dissociative attacks I had when i was younger. Still, it's a very 'cold' feeling. Actually I think i told more than once 'when i trip in ketamine I'm a being of pure thought - no feelings and no bodily sensations'.
Also very funny, i very often 'see' words, but they actually belong to no alphabet/language that I know. They look more like runes or gibberish, but I identify them always as 'writings'.
So, why am I saying this? 'Cause I cannot really understand if this is the same kind of experience the average k-holer has. No talking with god, no perceiving the universe, no higher revelation. If I have emotions, they are dysphoric/quasi-bad trip, but they do not last long. And my GF tells me that having open eyes hallucinations is weird. Actually, the effects in part do overlap to what I get with extremely high doses of marijuana (mind movies etc) and when i tried 5-HO-met (only time in my life with other psychedelics), I've had visuals VERY similar to what I get with K (and, at some point, the same feelings of dissociation/being sucked into the mist).
Probably setting has something to do with this (i never did K alone, but I think I could not inject myself), expecially with the (non)despair feelings. Regardless, am I doing K or some strange substance I do not even know about.
So, in your opinion this is a 'normal' or at least common k-hole trip? Or maybe i'm just short of k-hole, who knows..
It's a bit of trip report ('usual' trip) and bit of a question. Mods, if you feel this thread belongs to Trip reports, please move it there.So, ketamine. I took the staff about 10 times in my life (more or less 7 times from last august to april). The experience got worse and worse, so I'm currently on hyatus - it was more something I did with my GF when she was feeling like & we had not other plans for the evening. I will talk now about experiences in the last year. We've got a 5 grams batch. We always used that one, and the stuff seemed to be ketamine (she is more experienced than me and swears so. I tested it with Mandelin reagent, the stuff turned orangey). Dosage was .75 mg/lb IM (for the first experiences), got up to 1 mg/lb IM (maybe more for my GF) towards the end. No other drug was usally taken together (maybe a little alcohol, but i tended to avoid it if I knew i would have been doing K). Setting = lying in the bed. We experimented with more or less light, more or less stuff around to watch, and differend kinds of music (no films or the suchlike, no people around us, nothing. Usually dim lights. I have a nice color changing lamp, and that was quite an improvement for our setting)
Ok, enough blah blah. This is the point: my first experience with K (another batch, though) was ecstatic. I really remember it being blessed: no unpleasant effect, only a long mind movie and cuddling with my gf. And what is what a good trip still is for me, on K: she shoots me. After 2-3 minutes i feel melting into the bed, and if everything is ok then i feel litterally projected in some direction (upward, or forward). Then it is really mind movie, and if I'm lucky it's eye candy. I don't really feel my body at the beginning - it's more like my consciousness is wired into a VR environment, and the music is creating what I see. Sudden guitar blast? Maybe I will see earthquakes shaking my kspace. Pitch going up? I will fly, too. The music repeats with a somewhat circular structure? I am spinning as a merry-go-round.
If i played a lot some videogame (like Minecraft or Deus ex), visuals will be DEFINITELY in that style. After a while the experience gets less strong, and if I open my eyes look at the white walls i MIGHT have open eyes visuals, like patterns growing on the wall or icicles growing from the ceiling. Also looking at something like the pattern of the sheets is cool. My gf looks usually like ET (lol). When the strong visual effect subsides, sometimes I start having waves of feelings of being lost in the mist/stranded - something that recalls me panic/dissociative attacks I had when i was younger. Still, it's a very 'cold' feeling. Actually I think i told more than once 'when i trip in ketamine I'm a being of pure thought - no feelings and no bodily sensations'.
Also very funny, i very often 'see' words, but they actually belong to no alphabet/language that I know. They look more like runes or gibberish, but I identify them always as 'writings'.
So, why am I saying this? 'Cause I cannot really understand if this is the same kind of experience the average k-holer has. No talking with god, no perceiving the universe, no higher revelation. If I have emotions, they are dysphoric/quasi-bad trip, but they do not last long. And my GF tells me that having open eyes hallucinations is weird. Actually, the effects in part do overlap to what I get with extremely high doses of marijuana (mind movies etc) and when i tried 5-HO-met (only time in my life with other psychedelics), I've had visuals VERY similar to what I get with K (and, at some point, the same feelings of dissociation/being sucked into the mist).
Probably setting has something to do with this (i never did K alone, but I think I could not inject myself), expecially with the (non)despair feelings. Regardless, am I doing K or some strange substance I do not even know about.
So, in your opinion this is a 'normal' or at least common k-hole trip? Or maybe i'm just short of k-hole, who knows..
