Once again I got it FTIR tested so you clowns wouldn't say it was an RC, I couldn't care less what you believe. But it tested as pure K with no cuts or adulterants. Yet the effects were far different than normal K. You seem unable to explain that away, blabbering about GCMS doesnt cut it. The people here who tried it all report the same thing, 4x weaker, no hole, with a somewhat up feeling. I could snort a gram and not hole, this isn't k, its not even really a dissociative. Yet it tests as pure K. I know exactly what I took. Yes we are all crazy here and couldn't possibly tell R from S/racemic. You can tell just by looking at it. If you tried it you would know. I only made a post here because people wanted to know and I had the experience, convincing strangers is not my job. Lots of drugs were unavailable in the past, like ALD or mescaline, that are easy to obtain now.
I'm not buying more to send to Europe for testing because I don't like it. You buy some and get it tested, oh wait you can't. Just keep repeating the mantra it isn't available to explain your inability to get it. Everyone who tried it here reports the same thing, and history will prove us right. The only reason I would ever get this again would be to mess around with racemic ratios, other than that it it sucks. I stand by that. And I am sure other people will agree, I'll come back in a few years and check, I'm not arguing. I'm just here to add to knowledge base.
You are not adding anything to the knowledge base. What you are adding is unsubstantiated claims and when asked to provide some form evidence, you prefer being agressive. This shows a lot. I am going to show you now how we add something to the knowledge base. Observe the difference:
For several years, I have looked for quantitative test results that would unequivocally demonstrate the presence of either S-ketamine or R-ketamine in the street market. S-ketamine is now used for medical treatments, so its appearance on the street market is expected. However, it's unclear whether non-official manufacturers are producing it, or R-ketamine for that matter. All the test results I've seen so far have only indicated the presence of racemic mixtures on the street market.
Many individuals on social media and forums claim to have pure S- or R-ketamine, or assert they can source it. However, these claims are rarely substantiated and typically rely on the following:
- They trust their (illegal) source, who often has little understanding of the substance itself, simply repeats information, or just says whatever that could facilitate sales.
- They trust what is written next to a photo on the darknet. This information is equally unreliable.
- They trust clearnet vendors, who often also fail to provide proof of what they are selling.
- They trust their judgement while having no point of reference.
Overall, there is no standardized quality control, and this responsibility falls on harm reduction organizations that offer drug-checking services. However, even these organizations have sometimes provided incorrect information regarding isomers, among many other things. On several occasions, I have contacted organizations that people claimed tested their ketamine as S-ketamine. In every case, the organizations confirmed that they did not test for isomers. Often, this was a result of miscommunication between the organization and the individual. In some cases, the person reporting the results had insufficient knowledge of ketamine, and when asked if the sample was S-ketamine, they simply answered affirmatively. On one occasion, a representative of an organization told me they didn’t test for isomers because, in their view, all street ketamine was S-ketamine, having been diverted from legal manufacturers.
I once contacted some darknet/clearnet vendors to ask how they verified their product as pure R- or S-ketamine and what tests they used to confirm it. Many did not reply at all, while some replied that they tested for cutting agents and fentanyl. When I asked more specifically about testing for ketamine isomers, my questions went unanswered. Those interactions speak by themselves. They have no clue about what they are actually selling and, as a result, neither do you. I plan to continue contacting clearnet vendors with the same inquiry. Hopefully, one is going to show that they know what they are selling.
I understand that different batches of pure ketamine can have varying effects (which is something I have experienced myself) but this alone is not enough to determine the isomeric purity of a batch.
The physical form of the product (e.g. rods, shards, rock, or powder) also provides little to no information about its molecular composition. Some people claim that their R-ketamine has always come in rock form. While this may be true in their experience, it does not mean that all ketamine in rock form is necessarily R-ketamine. There are likely different ways to create a rock form product, such as by compressing or precipitating it.
In the end, only quantitative tests can provide conclusive evidence regarding the presence of R-ketamine and, to some extent, S-ketamine on the street market, and whether non-official manufacturers are producing them. Some scientific papers have described production pathways that favor the creation of one isomer over the other, but it is unclear whether these methods are scalable or have even been implemented. Manufacturers could simply be separating isomers from a racemic mixture produced through conventional means, but I have no direct knowledge of such processes, as I have no contacts within non-official production labs.
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