ketamine , im chasing the original buzz

[blockers]

when i first started to use i got amazing out of body experiences / entering next dimension / travelling immense distances stuff and all that jazz.
im very interested in the universe space and all that so i really buzzed when i found this effect with ket.

now all i get is screwed vision / disassociation / screwed cognitive process / chilled out feeling .

i want the original feeling/visuals back its not to do with the quality of the ket as thats always high (pure crystal)

am i just fooling myself will it not return? is it the age old tale of chasing that original buzz? might as well just give it up?

 

[Azurite08]

Dissociatives are famous for "losing the magic" after one abuses them too much. I've certainly gone through it myself.

I believe that it's a personal thing though, as my one friend continues to abuse dissociatives and doesn't seem to get the diminishing returns I experience, or else the side-effects just haven't caught up with him yet. Cause we used to be partners in crime with that shit, and now I can hardly look at a dissociative without feeling sick, let alone do em, while he has no problems.

 

[Solipsis]

Apart from the nasty K habit I got, I also got the monster tolerance and in retrospect it was pretty ridiculous how many negatives I was affording to produce a state that really has very little to do with the original effects when I first started.

Apparently I just couldn't accept that I could not get it back, and I can imagine there are many like me.

If you can, yes I would certainly recommend you give it up and perhaps there is a way to do things more responsibly: psychedelics are typically not as liable to abuse at least not of the kind with K, so picking up the practice of meditating on moderate doses of psychedelics can also yield dissociative states.
I know they are somewhat different but there are also a lot of similarities. If not meditation, just lying down with a blindfold (I use a mindfold, they are great) you can 'go places'.

There can even be extra advantages to this like discovering old and buried memories and even reliving them (sometimes variations of them), and I suppose there are other benefits from meditation that you can also get by what I describe.

The best I ever succeeded was when I took a fair dose of LSD and kept redosing every time I leveled out. I left enough time to notice the building of intensity without getting overwhelmed but not so much time that tolerance set in (besides I had enough product). At some point I felt drenched in acid, strangely saturated in a way.
Then I laid down and went exploring inside my own mind and memories. That was excellent.

 

[blockers]

The thing is I don't abuse this substance. I have a fairly heavy session every couple of weeks or so with a select few.
Its gone from a great drug for me to enjoy every now and again to something that I don't enjoy anywhere near as much.
I do believe though that ever since I started doing it I've been building up a very hearty tolerance to it. And dispute leaving weeks before each session the tolerance, for the best part remains.
Suppose I've got a fairly responsive body when it comes to k

 

[FnX]

Hate to say the obvious, but take a break? A long one, months, maybe half a year or longer?

 

[pyro2525]

Totally lose the magic, after the first dose it's never the same. Doing it every other weekend will get you into a stabilized tolerance quickly.

Not to say you won't ever have crazy experiences but they won't be quite as special. Even at huge doses, which will get you very fucked up, it'll be missing something.

My saying is that once it becomes k, Special K has lost its special.

It's great with LSD (you need a significantly smaller dose than normal) but that's a whole different story.

 

[dcraver877]

ive been doing ket the last several months or so. probably around a quarter gram a week for 3.5 months now. Usually dosing once a week sometimes twice. The last few times the comedown has been terrible. I felt psychotic for almost 24 hours and can't sleep for the next few days. I thought maybe it was interacting with the memantine I take (20mg a day) but I think it is ketamine withdrawal. I also easily panic for the next couple days after doing just one bump. I think my glutamate receptors are messed up or something.

It's weird because I have a friend who does 2-3 grams a week and he has none of these problems.

 

[dcraver877]

anyone else get withdrawals from ket? i seem to be an anomaly. the only thing i could think of is perhaps my k is cut with some sort of benzo and that is what is causing the withdrawal symptoms.