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Ketamine identification help

KingBlueTwista

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Last night I did what I thought was ket for the first time. I brought it off one of my *usually* reliable guys. I got 1.5 grams and the material was 1-2mm slightly translucent spherical crystals that were quite solid but ground up okay into a fine white powder. I've never heard of ket coming in this form, is this possible?

I started by doing one 100mg line, left it about 10 minutes and it didn't really do much. Over the course of the next hour and a half I proceeded to snort the entire baggy, due to the lack of effects. About a quarter of the way through I felt definite dissociative effects, I couldn't walk properly and had odd trains of thought, but it wasn't powerful at all. I also felt like the leader of the known universe, which was awesome. But much to my dismay I was still attached to my body. This doesn't sound like many ket experiences I have read about and I should have easily k-holed way before I finished the bag. Though I had done a very large dose of 4-MeO-PCP 3 days prior, could this have cross tolerated to such a degree? Also does this sound like ket, or was I ripped off?
 
It is Ketamine for sure.
around here we call that shardy shards but the proper name is Pre-set i believe. it is made in the lab that way as shards which you can cook down to powder. other forms it comes in are Licks which you cook to the same powder.
 
cooking isnt too complicated as long as you have a microwave. or it can be done over the stove but that way takes a bit longer. you just have to make a solution of K and H2o if its in Pre-set form ( I dont remember the measurements but if you search theres probably 12 threads that can tell you how). it doesnt make it any more pure or give you any more ket but it cleans it and turns it to powder. it will also make it look like a shit ton more. if you cook up a gram of shards it will look like 10 grams but will still only weigh 1
 
Ketamine kan kome in that form but that doesn't guarantee that what you had was indeed ketamine nor that it was pure. Even krystal ket kan be kut. This is kinda the reason why drug ID threads are not allowed - there's simply no way anybody kan tell you for sure what you had. The only way to be sure is to get it tested (not always very practical) or know your source well enough to be able to trust it kompletely.

Kooking krystal does nothing but turn it to powder - you kan do the same thing just by krushing it. Some folks prefer kooking it though for whatever reason. Works fine either way and you end up with the same thing.

Kross-tolerance kan definitely be an issue with dissociatives and it does sound like that may well be the kase for you. Those are pretty huge doses for someone unused to ket even with tolerance to other dissociatives though. Kut ket (or not ket at all) kould well also be the kase. Or a kombination of things.

K <3
 
Shambles said:
Ketamine kan kome in that form but that doesn't guarantee that what you had was indeed ketamine nor that it was pure. Even krystal ket kan be kut. This is kinda the reason why drug ID threads are not allowed - there's simply no way anybody kan tell you for sure what you had. The only way to be sure is to get it tested (not always very practical) or know your source well enough to be able to trust it kompletely.

Kooking krystal does nothing but turn it to powder - you kan do the same thing just by krushing it. Some folks prefer kooking it though for whatever reason. Works fine either way and you end up with the same thing.
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cooking crystal ket cleans it sir. it also makes it worlds easier on your nose
 
How does it klean it? Almost all ket in the UK is pure anyway so doesn't require kleaning but assuming I had some kut ket how would kooking it klean it - wouldn't it depend on what the kut was?

I agree it does make it easier on the nose but still prefer to krush it - kan get it just as fine but does take more effort, for sure.
 
Ketamine only comes in crystal form where I am. Vials/Baggies never have powder, only crystal that you gotta bust yourself before doing it. I like it better this way personally. Busting drugs and making lines is fun aha.
 
Unless you habitually abuse multiple grams of dissociative drugs, your ketamine is cut to fuck; most cuts are water soluble and nothing short of an acid/base extraction is going to clean it up. 1.5 grams should have you in a chemically induced coma for a few hours even if you have some dissociative tolerance.

Cooking ketamine doesn't clean anything unless it's cut with sand or glass beads and you actually filter off what doesn't dissolve. It's just a fast way (in the case of liquid ampoules the only way) to get a finely powdered drug suitable for snortin'.

Sorry dude.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but because its a tranquilizer its active in a mg/kg range. I.E. Bigger person will need more then a smaller person to achieve the same high. That's what I was told, could someone confirm?

I say this to sekio, as doing 1.5grams in 1.5 hours would not put me in a chemically induced coma, not even close, and no my K isnt cut to shit it is actually surprisingly clean (but of course not 100%), so, sorry to you dude!
 
Thanks shambles! It is most likely a combination of poor ket and tolerance :( How long does it usually take for a dissociative tolerance to subside substantially? That brings another question to mind actually, I know that people's mileage varies while on a substance but what about with regards to tolerance?

I think I'ma give cooking it a miss, fuck I might even just give up on ket and go for some methoxetamine. I think I scratched the surface of the ketamine experience and god damn do I want to go further but I just cant trust my supplier enough.
 
Ketamine tolerance takes an age to decrease and tends to rise rapidly to pretty much where it left off when you get back on it. I was using ket very heavily for a coupla years (to the point where 500mg IV would be barely noticeable) and decided to take a long break. I used a few other dissociatives (3-MeO-PCP and the like) sporadically but not heavily whilst on the break. My doses for such things seemed to be at the higher end of the "normal" range but not excessive.

After almost a year without I recently started using ket again and tolerance has definitely gone down from the stupidly high level it was at... but is still pretty high (300mg IM would be a light dose for me at the moment). Only way to keep it low is to keep use as minimal as possible and take breaks inbetween uses, unfortunately :\

Also, switching to MXE may not totally work due to cross-tolerance - I got through 250mg in a few hours when I first tried it which is a fuckload. Ket tolerance would be the kulprit. But if your ket supply is less than wondrous (which seems to be the case) at least you know it's pure. Plus it's bloody lovely :D
 
Whoa. I have personally witnessed naive/low-tolerance users be absolutely floored for 1.5 hours off of doses closer to 200-300mg. In addition erowid suggests an anesthetic dose (not a K-hole, anesthesia) intranasal at 1mg/lb. That's 2.2 mg/kg (roughly 350-400mg for a 150 kilo person, even if you're that huge), so unless you're grossly obese or you have a huge tolerance you shouldn't be standing after doing 1.5g in an hour or so.

edit: I've heard mumblings of piracetam and friends helping with tolerance to ket. I'm sure the dopaminergic and sigma components of the drug play a role too.
 
KingBlueTwista said:
Last night I did what I thought was ket for the first time. I brought it off one of my *usually* reliable guys. I got 1.5 grams and the material was 1-2mm slightly translucent spherical crystals that were quite solid but ground up okay into a fine white powder. I've never heard of ket coming in this form, is this possible?

I started by doing one 100mg line, left it about 10 minutes and it didn't really do much. Over the course of the next hour and a half I proceeded to snort the entire baggy, due to the lack of effects. About a quarter of the way through I felt definite dissociative effects, I couldn't walk properly and had odd trains of thought, but it wasn't powerful at all. I also felt like the leader of the known universe, which was awesome. But much to my dismay I was still attached to my body. This doesn't sound like many ket experiences I have read about and I should have easily k-holed way before I finished the bag. Though I had done a very large dose of 4-MeO-PCP 3 days prior, could this have cross tolerated to such a degree? Also does this sound like ket, or was I ripped off?
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Something similar happened to me a few weeks back - and I'm experienced enuough with K to be certain I was sold methoxetamine or one of the other new, weaker K analogues as Ket. It's dissociative, but with no depth to the experience. Sounds to me like you might have been a victim of the same scam.
 
MXE is way more potent and expensive than ket so unlikely to be used as a kut. Tiletamine has been used to kut (or entirely replace) ketamine in some areas. Have never had it so don't know if that would be a possibility. Reports were almost entirely negative from those that were scammed this way though.
 
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