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ketamine - first time - K is some crazy fucking shit..

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Noonan

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Hey Guys..
I never really done any psychedelic drugs. I have been trying to get my hands on shrooms for a while, and also am waiting on someone to come through with some acid but that won't be until September or so.

Friday night, me and my friend were smoking blunts waiting to meet up with someone. We were going to pick up some coke from home, and I never really delt with this guy before and he seemed to be a little sketchy. He said he was coming from the mall, which is 15 minutes away. An hour later, he calls saying "My bad bro I'm on my way, had to stop some where". We ended up meeting with another friend, whom of which is our ecstasy supplier. He had K. He said he usually doesn't sell it, he just keeps it for himself but if we are looking for something fun to do, he'd sell us a jar for $50 or a "lick" (which he said was 4-5 jars) for $100. I only had $60 bucks, so we just got a jar.

We picked up a girl, who didn't want to do K- she just wanted to smoke, and we went to go do the K. While smoking another blunt, we raked out 4 lines- 2 for me and 2 for my friend. I couldn't really feel anything from the first 2 lines, I was already fucked up from smoking like 4 blunts.

About 2 hours later we decided to do more. We did 4 lines, once again 2 each. Now I was feeling it. I was pretty fucked up. There was only a tiny bit in the jar so we decided to just do that as well. A decent sized bump for each.

Instantly, I found myself in a fucking crazy crazy world. We weren't really in the best spot, as I didn't think I would be this fucked up. We just parked the car on the side of the road, slightly hidden. My friend gets out of the car. I figured he wanted to go explore or something. Little did I know, as soon as he got out of the car he fell face first into the grass and was just laying there.
I got out of the car, and realized that I couldn't walk. I stumbled around the side of the car, holding on to the car with every step that I took so I wouldn't fall over. He laid there for about 45 minutes. I offered to help him but he was having a good time where he was.

Little did I know how truly fucked up I was. I was leaning against my car. I would be thinking I was feeling pretty good, but then I would think "Oh my god. What if I OD'd? We did too much. Im sooo fucked up" but I would quickly forget about it because I was so fucked up. Infact, I did this throughout the night- like 10 times.

We were delerious. We had no idea what the fuck was going on. Later, I looked on Erowid and that was signs of OD. :\ 8o

It was an experiance. It was crazy as fuck. I did K again last night, but we only did a few lines of it. Its a very enjoyable drug as long as you do it properly. The main reason I didnt want to do it was because I wasn't able to look at the dosing on Erowid. Still, we did it- And I guess it was a lesson for me.
 
This is either journal material, or it could have been a trip report, but it doesn't belong here. I'm glad you had a good time. I'm gonna go ahead and move this to trip reports, and see if Mean Girl wants to edit the title and keep it, but it might not be a long enough report, so don't get mad if it gets closed...
 
I wouldnt call K a psychedelic drug at all, AT ALL. But I wouldnt call weed a psychedelic drug either. To me both those drugs are FAR more 'narcotic' than 'psychedelic', fuck, to me good chronic is just a stones throw away from virtually being heroin, and psychoaddictively, it effects me the same.

I love K, I fuckin HATE 'psychedelics' as I see them, being ur shrooms, ur LSD, ur phenethylamines... ugh.. if u think K is a psychedelic you'll be surprised by what shrooms, RC's, and LSD and all that crap does to ya, utter bullshit, horrible comedowns, lameass depression spouts post-use, lame ass mental state when high like CONSTANT CONFUSION and the 50/50 split decision where your always split internally 50/50 on ANY STUPID LITTLE CHOICE like even gettin up from ur chair and it takes 10 minutes just to make that choice and then it never feels right when you make that choice and never feels right if you sit back down and fuckin mood swings from happy to utterly hopeless depression back to happy in 30 second waves thats not fun thats fuckin torture to me. The -only- interesting thign with a psychedelic is the hallucinations but if you have to have all that other crap along with it-its simply not worth it at all.

Dont even compare K to a psychedelic I take offence to that death to psychedelics, long live the narcotics and 'dissociative anesthetics'.
 
Ah I don't think you OD'd - I imagine an OD is some place far beyond the k-hole, with most Ketamine users generally aiming for a k-hole. By the sounds of it you and your friend got near a k-hole, next time do more =D do a lot more and then report back.

Pharaoh Sphinx, sorry hear psychs effect you that way - the only people that I know that have similar problems are those that are on medication for serious mental problems. Psychs aren't easy drugs, but they are IMO a lot more rewarding than most other drugs.
 
Yeah, Pharaoh Sphinx's feelings about psychedelics are different than most people's. To me, and to my drug-using friends who've done psychedelics (LSD, shrooms, cactus, etc.), psychedelics are magical and exalted. All other drugs are nothing compared to them. But they're only partly about getting high. Most of what they are is on another plane that's tough to describe, but should be experienced.
 
Pharaoh Sphinx said:
...horrible comedowns, lameass depression spouts post-use, lame ass mental state when high like CONSTANT CONFUSION and the 50/50 split decision where your always split internally 50/50 on ANY STUPID LITTLE CHOICE like even gettin up from ur chair and it takes 10 minutes just to make that choice and then it never feels right when you make that choice and never feels right if you sit back down and fuckin mood swings from happy to utterly hopeless depression back to happy in 30 second waves thats not fun thats fuckin torture to me. The -only- interesting thign with a psychedelic is the hallucinations but if you have to have all that other crap along with it-its simply not worth it at all.
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bad experience?:D ;)

i've not done K myself, but this was an interesting read. describes the confusion alot better than most. I'll give it a go sometime =D
 
We were delerious. We had no idea what the fuck was going on. Later, I looked on Erowid and that was signs of OD.
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Ketamine is hard to OD on ... some doctors use it (i.e. oral surgeons) in combination with midazolam, because at fully anesthetic doses, it does not cause breathing depression.

Just so you know, if you were even close to "OD-ing" you wouldn't have had any recollection of the experience, because you would be completely unconscious. I can almost guarantee you did not come close to an OD ... what you experienced was at most an unexpected K-hole.

K-hole dose: ~200mg
Anesthetic: ~500mg+
OD: even more ...

I wouldnt call K a psychedelic drug at all, AT ALL. But I wouldnt call weed a psychedelic drug either. To me both those drugs are FAR more 'narcotic' than 'psychedelic', fuck, to me good chronic is just a stones throw away from virtually being heroin, and psychoaddictively, it effects me the same.
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Ketamine is definitely psychedelic, but only at higher doses. Take 150-200 mg and try to tell me it's not psychedelic. Weed is definitely much less so. Even though it is considered psychedelic by definition, I don't really consider it psychedelic on it's own.
 
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Pharaoh Sphinx said:
I wouldnt call K a psychedelic drug at all, AT ALL. But I wouldnt call weed a psychedelic drug either. To me both those drugs are FAR more 'narcotic' than 'psychedelic', fuck, to me good chronic is just a stones throw away from virtually being heroin, and psychoaddictively, it effects me the same.

I love K, I fuckin HATE 'psychedelics' as I see them, being ur shrooms, ur LSD, ur phenethylamines... ugh.. if u think K is a psychedelic you'll be surprised by what shrooms, RC's, and LSD and all that crap does to ya, utter bullshit, horrible comedowns, lameass depression spouts post-use, lame ass mental state when high like CONSTANT CONFUSION and the 50/50 split decision where your always split internally 50/50 on ANY STUPID LITTLE CHOICE like even gettin up from ur chair and it takes 10 minutes just to make that choice and then it never feels right when you make that choice and never feels right if you sit back down and fuckin mood swings from happy to utterly hopeless depression back to happy in 30 second waves thats not fun thats fuckin torture to me. The -only- interesting thign with a psychedelic is the hallucinations but if you have to have all that other crap along with it-its simply not worth it at all.

Dont even compare K to a psychedelic I take offence to that death to psychedelics, long live the narcotics and 'dissociative anesthetics'.
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Definitly not my view on psychadelics. Mind exploration, appreciation for everything, ego loss, utter happiness and universal understanding are the extents of my psych trips. But reading these trip reports... just makes me wanna try K via snorting. Wish I could get that stuff around here.
 
you didn't od, you just took took a drug in a bad setting. Taking K to walk around or drive somewhere is like smoking crystal meth to fall asleep.
 
ya you definitely did not od. maybe a k hole, how much do you think the 'jar' weighed? k is a wondrous and mystical substance. and i would consider it a psychedelic.
 
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you didn't od, you just took took a drug in a bad setting. Taking K to walk around or drive somewhere is like smoking crystal meth to fall asleep.
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Well said!=D
 
Holy shit you took 4 lines in total?
And it was your first time?

MAN!

I have never taken that much K, and i've done alotta K.
2 lines would have me immobilized. Let alone 4. PLUS weed.
When you blaze on K, it gets a lot stronger.
 
Well I hope some people read this and learn from it. Ketamine is not like a psychedelic in traditional terms, and if this is your first time with dissociatives, it is a very alien feeling. Some people will find this threatening, and therefore it won't be fun, and it only becomes more intense.

On drugs like K, DXM, PCP...you lose your "grounding", as it were, and that is something you need to go into the experience knowing, or else it could be a very long and painful ordeal.
 
The jar had like .7g in it. My friend is actually telling me that I have the story a little wrong, we raked the .7g into 12 lines and did 6 each.

And yes, smoking makes it alot stronger. I was smoking a blunt as I went into the K Hole and the blunt wasn't even halfway done and I just threw it out because it was too much.

I'll be sure to add more to my trip report within the next few days.
 
^^Im with freejoll you may have experienced the beginning phases of what could have been a k-hole it just need a little push (more ketamine) if you were in a true k-hole you would know and overtones of paranoia and thoughts of OD wouldnt even come to mind.......good report though
 
What the hell are you doing driving around using ANY substance, let alone one you've never tried?

bad move
 
The first sign of a k-hole experience, imo, is that you are not aware that you are in one until you come out of it and are recontructing your groundings (who are you, where you are,etc). Most people do not move during a k-hole, because, I don't see how you really can.
 
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