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Ketamine Discussion - Quality & Regional Info III

Acid: Yup. That's exactly how it's been described to me - anxiety-ridden, panicky, freaky stimulation that just ain't no fun at all. Given it a wide berth meself. Dunno who's been buying it but clearly some idiots are :\

CK: Indeed. I just don't understand why the fuck they'd mix 'em together. Seems to just really limit the market. Nobody who actually enjoys drugs is gonna want to buy such a heinous combo premixed. Sell 'em seperately surely. Don't understand it at all. They probably just bought it like that. Think someone was saying the same mix has been doing the rounds elsewhere too.
 
Best ketamine in ages binged on 19g with mates on Friday there during a trip. It was real small and not shardy stuff, didn't take much crushing and reminded me a lot of stuff I've been told was S-Isomer ketamine. Best gear in fucking ages, well over a year, extremely visual when not k-holing arabic writing on the walls etc and extremely simple to hole on multiple times when I haven't been able to k-hole for about 5 months due to quality. Barely any damage at all to nose and it was constant lines for a good few hours.

Insides are fucking wrecked now though, been drinking lots of water and slept for 24 hours there. But found another gram here so shall be kholing later. I've got this weird sort've dot that's slighly below my rib cage on the right, it looked a bit like a spot but slightly fainter. But when I'm caining ketamine like fuck underneath it seems to be like a swelling lump, it was actually fairly sore are all that ketamine but has fairly settled. No idea like!

Was great to have k that doesnt make my piss smell either or wasn't extremely anesthetic/numbing so wasn't cut.

That k is outstanding: Found some last night in my back jean pocket ended up thinking I was back at my mates at the 4-ACO-DMT trip at one point when I was coming out of the hole took ages for it to unfold and realize.
 
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Some very nice K here in the south too. Small jagged crystals. Feels like a fairly evenly mixed ratio of S:R. Maybe leaning a bit more on the S side in terms of cleanliness & psychedelic effects but with the duration/return-to-baseline of racemic.
Very nice, very clean & very easy to hole on. %)

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Getting to the end of mine and bloody hope so too! Iv noticed than when IMing it or IV i've not had k cramps as bad the day after compared to when after sniffing it ends up being excruciating after a bit, vaguely remember someone (f&b?) saying that th metabolite nor-ketamine was responsible for most of the nasty k problems, was this oral or from any RoA and i'm just kidding myself?
 
I'm fairly certain that norketamine builds up no matter what the ROA is. Unfortunately. Metabolites metabolise when metabolised and for a drug to do its drug stuff it tends to need metabolising sooner or later. If anything I'd maybe even think that injection would be somewhat worse for it as it all goes directly into the bloodstream without passing go, collecting £200 or getting waylaid by snot along the way. As ever, I am a very long way from being actually knowledgable on the chemistry stuff so could well be mistaken... but am 99% sure f&b has said similar (the first bit about all ROAs leading to norketamine scarring up your insides sooner or later if used in serious excess - not the bit about injection maybe being even worse for it cos that's pure speculation on my part).

I consider meself very fortunate to have only had k-cramps once or twice and even then only within the last coupla months. Was from very light use (just a coupla grammes over a night on two consecutive weekends) of a specific batch which I and others noted was distinctly "off" feeling whatever the ROA was. Definitely cut with summat but not that horrid meph/ket kombo that was about recently. Coupla folk suggested tiletamine but have never knowingly had that so couldn't rightly say. I totally got why people say that the k-kramps are one of the most painful experiences known to ketkind though. Fukkin ow! 8o8(8o
 
How are those who are sniffing ketamine often, but not too regularly/daily (Say at least 1 gram minimum a session, 2-3 times a week) finding their nose? Also opinions on spitting the drip? Might start considering doing this now it's not something I really ever considered but starting to get a few side effects now. I've noticed it really is one of the drugs I really struggle to keep and not take, I'll convince myself someway or another, and it's fucking expensive here for the few hours of wonkyness. Probably the only drug I'm really struggling to moderate at the minute. But I'm sitting in tonight and some chemicals are needed to make things interesting! Saturday after all.
 
I feel you on that one SpecialK, it is for me at least, not something I can just keep in my drawer and leave. And for that reason not something I'd buy in big bits like I used to either as it just increases usage and negative side effects. Might do the occasional couple of g here and there (tolerance is still a bitch) but no-where near the same scope as before.
Anyone finding a lot of stuff about at the moment is really hard to hole on? Looks like k, tastes like k but even really big lines don't do the trick. Might have to grab a vial or three again, seems the only way of guaranteeing quality these days.
 
haha, both you guys are not the only ones. Told myself on late Novemeber, 'I'm gonna stock up for xmas period and NYE just to avoid being anxious about scoring closer to the time.' Get my stuff and within a week it's gone. So I get more and then it's gone, so order again and do more than I should have but have enough for xmas. Have to order more a couple of days before NYE. In total went through 18 grams - the majority of that was done alone. Haven't touched any since. Got a couple of very mild K-cramps. Drunk a lot of water and exercised. Plan on remaining K-clean for the whole of 2013. Won't happen, but at least a few months away from it all will do me good. At least for tolerance. One month down already...not too many cravings to speak of.

Yeah, getting K that doesn't make you hole is a bitch. Such an unwelcoming feel, it just never hits the spot like it should. But even with the bomb stuff my general opinion of holing has changed a bit. I find the holes just too dark these days; like I've died and gone to hell or something just as disturbing. I'm more of a fan of the CEVS and feeling like I'm floating round my room to a bit of good music.
 
cupboard said:
Last batch here has improved, no retards has put meph in it this time.

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fairly sure this is the stuff I have had quite a lot recently. not bad not amazing, there is some better stuff floating around but it comes and goes quite quickly

SpecialK_ said:
How are those who are sniffing ketamine often, but not too regularly/daily (Say at least 1 gram minimum a session, 2-3 times a week) finding their nose? Also opinions on spitting the drip? Might start considering doing this now it's not something I really ever considered but starting to get a few side effects now. I've noticed it really is one of the drugs I really struggle to keep and not take, I'll convince myself someway or another, and it's fucking expensive here for the few hours of wonkyness. Probably the only drug I'm really struggling to moderate at the minute. But I'm sitting in tonight and some chemicals are needed to make things interesting! Saturday after all.
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I would say that describes my use and I find myself to be sniffly the day after or so but after that no real issues. certainly nothing to write home about hehe.
 
I've started getting really mild k cramps after every session, even if it's only a gram, but it's quite weird as it's mainly only on one side (right). Is that a sign of permanent damage or just a warning to slow things down a bit? Ketamine seems to be the only drug I think I'd continue to use even if it began making me ill or severe k cramps, that whole convincing yourself thing is really weird and I've seen it happen with my friends who use even more than me. Such as one who suffers severe k cramps that have him in bed for days, yet it wont stop them going for at least a gram the next day. At times that's a minimum of a £30/day habit. This wouldn't be an issue but the prices are high and it's becoming really heavy on my wallet and my insides. I ended up going out on Saturday and obviously cained that gram anyway. Should've left it at home!

I can't reject it or turn around and say no, even if I'm about to go out the door and someone offers a half gram line. Lead to me nearly freezing in the snow in a khole a few weeks back, luckily a friend found me. Seems to be dissociative are the thing that get a real grip on me, it was the same with MXE daily use until I started getting headaches and people started going a bit nuts at my usage - i.e. was hiding it from my ex at the time and she found out as I was found in a m-hole by inexperienced drug users who thought there was something wrong, and obviously was not a happy person.

Also anyone experienced k making their piss smell weird? To me it's only with certain batches, batches that have a much stronger anesthetic effect, especially on the likes of my tongue - almost comparable to high sublinguial dosing of MXE to the point you slur your words. Which makes me think it may be cut, but what the fuck is it cut with that's causing this? Even recooked batches.

As for my nose, I was sniffing mephedrone on Friday there and even less than a gram of that had my nose bleeding. So it must be the combination of drugs I'm sniffing along with the quantity of ketamine. Seems to be relatively okay on my nose.
 
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I'm the same, find compulsive dosing almost as bad as meph on ket, bough a bit to last me for a while after only doing it a few times in a year, ended up going through it in a week, pretty bad k cramps for a few days waking up 9-10 times a night to piss, pissing razorblades. Also even a week on my nose is incredibly sensitive, hurts in cold weather etc, not gonna trick myself into buying bulk again! All seems to have subsided apart from the sensitive nose though

Was stonking stuff though =D
 
eclipsedesign said:
Anyone finding a lot of stuff about at the moment is really hard to hole on? Looks like k, tastes like k but even really big lines don't do the trick. Might have to grab a vial or three again, seems the only way of guaranteeing quality these days.
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Yup. Sounds very similar to me. I can get into a kinda semi-holed state but am still mobile and doing stuff - just have no memory of what happened and come round some time later. Can get pretty wonky on it if I stay below those kinda doses but no chance of holing no matter how much I fiddle with dosing. Is odd. Definitely feels and smells and tastes like ket... but just ain't quite the effect I expect from ket. Similar but different in very distinctive ways. Is odd...
 
Snakes said:
Here is the holy grail for me, very therapeutic k, easy on the nose and doesn't fuck mine at all and can be very trippy, notably more potent than any of the previous stuff, this is also a bit of a creeper and builds steadily.K holed very hard on this after a night on MDMA. gets rid of my depression very well too best stuff i've had in 2012, thankfully managed to stock up on this i cooked it up from vials and its very different to a lot of other K ive received in the past.
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Looks like the german inresa k i had recently lovely :D
 
Ha! I've been saying that for years now, Cam :D

Hasn't quite worked out that way so far though ;)

Honestly, I think it's the ket around at the moment. Really I do. Plenty peeps saying the same thing about much of the K around recently - it just ain't particularly good quality. And suspect we may be getting somewhat similar batches - can assure you it ain't all that. Is okay... but far from topnotch. Better than nowt, mind.
 
Got some interesting k today, It's apparently from Ibiza,it's tiny tiny crystals, almost a powder and it burns yer nose a bit.

The guy I got it off was a fucking state so I have high hopes it's good =D
 
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