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Ketamine Discussion - Quality & Regional Info II

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Pharm grade kay coming my way soon, I shall savour it :)

Ayeee do think its getting better though, paying £25-£30 for very strong ket, just like we used to get just different in appearence, slight different smell. Will get some pics up when I finally get my phone back, its been in some Clubs safe for about 5 months just only recentley decided to make the trip to go and get it
 
I can't see why MXE is so popular, its fucking shit.

I'm going to pick up some ketamax/ketaset this weekend, done loads of ketamax vials in the past but i've never seen ketaset before so i'm quite interested to see if they are better/worse/the same
 
Probably better watson, S-isomer is slightly stronger by weight and less confusion on the way back to earth. Lucky bastard. Vials seem to be the way to go at the moment, been discussing IM with a mate he's keen for it. Just a bit confused is it 1CC needles and about 100mg to hole? With sniffing it usually takes about a third of a g to hole if the K is good, trying to work out what the difference in dose between IM and sniffing is can't really find anything.

At the moment I'm waiting on an eighth of crystal for £55 apparently and debating buying a few vials which works out at £12.50 each if I buy 3-4.
 
found some K at last, decent price, hopefully it'll be ok. cant be doing with this shitty batch of MXE
 
^having tried k by itself for he first time recently (last time no good, had much alcohol, h, weed and coke beforehand :|) i found it "feels" similar to mxe. i had low dose and it wasn't the same but something about it just "felt" similar.
 
Probably because the 'K' you got was tampered with or just MXE cut with some other stuff. Seems to be common practice lately.
 
^humm i don't think so, comes up way quicker than mxe did for me, and lasts less. and my nose did not drip this much!8(
 
It might just be because it was you're first 'real' experience with the stuff. Honestly, it really is nothing like ketamine and after a few k holes you will most likely see no need for MXE ever again, regardless of its price.

There is definitely cut mxe being sold as ket too, it's even reached here which shows it is a problem. Especially when people are paying literally 20-25/g for 0.2-3g of MXE. Whoever is doing that must be loving the coin.
 
Dunno people, MXE is quite a different experience than Ket and I enjoy it a lot, although it tends to be a bit more of a challenging mindfuck. Lower doses are quite excellent, surreally productive and euphoric - never forget the smaller doses! It's like a different drug at low (10-15mg) levels. Like Pontifex01 said.

Don't get me wrong, I do love Ket, but I don't undestand the MXE bashing.

Great in combos too. Especially O-DT and 3-MeO-PCP.
 
MXE in my experience and from the posts of people while under the influence seems to make you really delusional or something. People start coming out with all these mad thoughts, believing they are in 'eternal bliss' and have 'worked out the universe' when in fact they are talking complete dissociative nonsense. People clearly getting problems with the stuff to, dissociatives are not drugs to be used everyday and it's reminding me a bit of mephedrone where it's so cheap and available that it's hard not to (although I guess that's nothing to do with the drug itself).

It's far too dose sensitive in comparison to ketamine in my opinion. Although I loved it in the beginning, but then I began taking it every day for a good period and looking back I was having completely idiotic thoughts on the stuff and there seems to be a pattern with it as I've noticed with others posts. Although I have fond memories of playing Bad Company 2 online and feeling like I was in a war zone - but I feel ket does this better.

The euphoria off the stuff is really nice, especially if you get the next-day thing, but for me personally it just left me longing for that euphoria sober and often had me questioning why I had to use a drug for this kind of euphoria, don't think those kinds of thoughts are good for the head at all. I think the ROA heavily affects it too, especially when you get to higher sublinguial doses and end up slurring for the next four hours. The visuals felt lacking too compared to ket, but I remember at the beginning thinking it was like low doses of LSD.

Despite saying all this, I'll probably take it any time it's there, but I honestly don't think I would ever consider buying it again. The duration is another problem, it really lingers when you're coming off and I hate that stage with most drugs, this one just has a particularly long one.

Anyone mixed both? Personally I didn't really enjoy it. It was great in the beginning I had some S-Isomer ket and some MXE and was loving it for the first 1>2 hours, but once the ket wore off I was just stuck with the lingering MXE effect when I'd rather it had just disappeared.
 
Don't get me wrong, I do love Ket, but I don't undestand the MXE bashing.

Great in combos too. Especially O-DT and 3-MeO-PCP.

IMO the MXE bashing has stemed from people being pissed off by the K drought & trying to achieve their desired state by using MXE, only to end up dissapointed & frustrated.

MXE is not a K replacement & should not be treated as such.

& agreed knockando, MXE + 3-MeO-PCP is a fucking lovely combo.
 
I don't get any euphoria off MXE. My last few experiances with it have been nasty. One particular batch I did 3 x 30mg lines and woke up face down on the floor, no recollection of what happened, MXE split all over my laptop. I'd had a few ciders aswell, which would usually be ok with K but any time I've done that with MXE it's ended badly for me.

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Anyone mixed both? Personally I didn't really enjoy it. It was great in the beginning I had some S-Isomer ket and some MXE and was loving it for the first 1>2 hours, but once the ket wore off I was just stuck with the lingering MXE effect when I'd rather it had just disappeared.

Yeah I've done that a few times, only really to ration out my K a bit, but I wouldn't do it again. I had 7g's of some of the best crystal I've ever seen back in October time, sniffing heaps of it for days, then got this quarter of K. Tollerance was pretty high and I'd been doing 250-300mg lines of K mixed with 10-20mg MXE a few times a day. Decided I'd rack up a 500mg line of the wonk and I must have put 30-50mg MXE in it (I was fucked and there was clearly more MXE in it than I originally thought). By far the most insane hole I've ever had, was in the dark in my room Clockwork Orange on my laptop with all the crazy lights I have on and the headphones in. The MXE clearly made the K last longer, all the people in the movie turned into little pacmen charecters and they were chasing me through some kind of Saw style maze, it all ended up being a trick though, at the end of the maze I had nowhere to go, duped, I thought that was it for life, I'd spend the rest of my days as this little pacman, stuck at the end of the maze, it was all that was left in the universe. Unfortunately my mum came in and found me, powder all over my face, completely comatosed. Luckily she didn't freak too much just put me to bed. I wouldn't advise mixing them though lol.

Pontifex
Personally, I always use 20 units (2cc) of water per 100mg of ketamine, and also, (I know you're using vials therefore liquid ket but I'm just throwing this in there) beware of prepping the solution too soon before you shoot because ketamine occasionally recrystallises, and for some reason it's a bitch to get to re-dissolve (wasted my last half gram this way).

Best injection site for IM is the top of your thigh, close to the hip. Inject roughly 1cc per 30 seconds, try not to move your leg for at least 5-10 minutes after you shoot, and you won't be left with any muscle soreness. Remember to sterilize injection site before + after. I don't recommend re-using syringes unless you want big bruises and more stinging when the needle pops the skin.

Sounds indeed like we have similar tollerance. 300mg when I start off sends me into a magical K-hole, floating round my ceiling on Aladins carpet, come back to earth with all kinds of crazy positive K head realisations :D my tollerance seems to build quickly over a few days of binging though. Usually do in about 10g's in 4-5 days. I tend to smash in most of that over the first 3 days after that I chill on it cos if I continue to do 3g+ a day I get the hot feeling piss.

Not sure I'll get the chance to IM now. Looking more like I'll end up with a quarter of crystal just cos the prices are better and there's not many vials available to me. Really do want to IM but I'll only be doing it when I get vials next. Probably do 0.1ml first to test the waters then I'll dive in at 1.5ml. Doesn't seem too tricky, just get the right needles and some swabs. I don't like needles but it's the one drug I'll make the exception for because it genuinely sounds like IM is by far the best ROA.

Sorry for such a long post, had to tell someone that pacman K hole haha, insanity :D
 
so who at the moment is actually getting proper ketamine? crystal shards? instead of this weird powdery shit that is probably cut with mxe and is not the same at all!
 
Did a load more of the K the other day, this time on an empty stomach. I also mixed it with MXE preload 30 mins prior, perhaps 30mg.

I find that I have the most magic dissasociative experiences after a night out on MD. The K/MXE seems to bring the visuals out of the MD. All of the imaginative magic seems to come from the MD and not so much the K, the K is merely a facilitator. This time I topped up with a bump of MDMA and MDA to get me there. At first it was almost too much of a head fuck and I was near to freaking out (which can be your worst nightmare as you know). Once into the stride of it, it was amazing. The MXE defo allows you to take less K -- I only topped up the K once during the experience. Had some music videos on the plasma and literally lost the plot in a good way. Recently I have been keeping my eyes open much more because I love being able to wilfully manipulate the visuals on the screen. It's always best when you have a music video with a constant text showing like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovaBfXxbfN0

Because the text will start glowing and morphing and will split at one end and join at the other (double vision thing) and come right out of the television. And you can wilfully change it!

Another thing which I said before -- large doses of K don't give me anywhere as much pain as small doses. What is up with that? Clearly I do large doses at certain times i.e. always after a huge night out on substances and I am brave enough to go large. Maybe there is another factor that explains it.
 
yeah its very strong stuff, made a right bell end out of myself decided a huge line of ket before work would make it a little more interesting, luckily my manager is sound and he gets up to the usual. I had to go and sit on the couch for 40 mins whilst I came out of the hole, 30 mins into my shift manager came over erm matt youve got white all around your nose go and get yourself sorted you idiot. Was speaking to a customer for like 5 mins and I just said i have no idea what your talking about honestly and just stumbled off.

Hahaha - done the same. Always seems like a good idea at the time, as I'm completely normal to outsiders when I'm on K, ain't I....?!?!? It seems not. Worse is the times I've just tickled a little bit and gone talking to people with a beauty of a polo - I mean, would you tell someone they had white stuff around their nose (I would as is goes), but passing it off as toothpaste seems, while plausible, a poor explanation considering your eyes speak a thousand words - "I am not quite with it just now!!"
 
Stimulants potentiate the dissociative effect.

This explains why i kept thinking i was in my kitchen, when i was on the way home from a rave a few months back.. lol
I just heard the humm off the fridge and freezer and i thought i was honestly in my kitchen.
 
definitely, yeh some of the most surreal trips Ive had from k have been on the tail end of an enactogen bender, combined with little sleep. things get strange to say the least
 
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