Ketamine Discussion - Quality & Regional Info II

[kader]

Yeah? Never really dabbled in benzos as only had access to the temazepam.. and in such small amounts that I use them just for book-ending a session if required.

 

[rockstar 69]

Got tripped up by MXE a few times.. So used to being able to play the K game until 4am, go to sleep, get up for work at 7 with no ill effects other than tiredness... tried doing that once when sold MXE as K. you can imagine the results.

Ouch, I bet that wasn't much fun. I've still not been able to walk properly at 4pm the next day after a heavy night/morning on MXE, something sinister about the stuff, just don't go near it now.

but yeah, a mate and ex member on this forum got addicted to benzos through using them to get to sleep whilst addicted to K, therefore transferring his addiction lol. slippery slope as it led to much worse things! most useful drug in the world if you can use them in a sensible fashion. won't trip without any on hand for instance.

Alot of K heads probably have easy access to benzos, concidering they both come from Asia and alot of K dealers probably buy in both.

Anyway, as for the drought... I've been informed by a couple of people now who are pretty high up in the K supply that big batches are just not getting through customs in India/Pakistan since that big bust in India in June. On top of that there's alot of shit/fake K now being sold on by Asian labs. Because of the loose - loose situation I'd imagine more than a few people being put off.

I've actually had some info from a vendor that some of the ketamine about came from a lab who cut their stuff with ephedrine

 

[OfLittleWorth]

are the precursors easily obtainable?

No, quite hard.

 

[rockstar 69]

is there any reason (i..e difficultyre accessing precursors) why we can't just move production over here? i know it'd take time, but are the precursors easily obtainable?

I've no idea. K is purely synthetic though so I guess most of the precursors involved probably come from Asia anyway.

Can't stress it enough, if you are buying K at the moment be careful. There is ALOT of cut/fake stuff at the moment no matter where your buying from, if it doesn't feel right after a tester line, it probably isn't right at all. Don't go hoofing monster lines as you would with spot on stuff til you know what you've got it sound ket.

 

[tommybobbin]

My mate had some "ket" the other week, looked good, big milky crystals. Wasn't fun though, didnt get much off it untill I think I took too much and my head felt like it was going to pop. Ended up with a headache, it wasn't fun at all, pointless taking it realy.

 

[kader]

Ouch, I bet that wasn't much fun. I've still not been able to walk properly at 4pm the next day after a heavy night/morning on MXE, something sinister about the stuff, just don't go near it now.

Absolutely, it just hangs in the systems for so long.. I've never known anything like it for physically affecting you for so long.

Anyway, as for the drought... I've been informed by a couple of people now who are pretty high up in the K supply that big batches are just not getting through customs in India/Pakistan since that big bust in India in June. On top of that there's alot of shit/fake K now being sold on by Asian labs. Because of the loose - loose situation I'd imagine more than a few people being put off.

I've actually had some info from a vendor that some of the ketamine about came from a lab who cut their stuff with ephedrine

This is sad to hear.. You have to assume that when there is a market, they will find away. I mean it obviously works for other illegal drugs. But I guess then that would drive the cost up akin to other drugs.. also if people are managing to shift RC's as ket, then the demand wouldn't be there i guess

What would be a tell-tale sign of it being cut with ephedrine then? What are the effects of that?

 

[Cornishman]

There was some lovely ket in these parts during Christmas day.

 

[lazzzy]

This is sad to hear.. You have to assume that when there is a market, they will find away. I mean it obviously works for other illegal drugs. But I guess then that would drive the cost up akin to other drugs.. also if people are managing to shift RC's as ket, then the demand wouldn't be there i guess

The golden days of pure ketamine are over, it was only ever cheap and pure because it was being made in vast quantities in India and Shipped over in big batches regularly to the UK. Those days are long gone now with the simple law change over there.

To be honest its quite good, I've seen friends effected by the long term impact of heavy ketamine use. Some of them cant even pee properly any more. All of them have shown a significant improvement in their lives since the drought started.

 

[Kronos]

What would be a tell-tale sign of it being cut with ephedrine then? What are the effects of that?

I've got a bit of this, gonna have another whack t it in an hour or so. Never had ephedrine before just thought it was average quality k, burnt when sniffed but could still get wobbled/hole off it. Tell tale sign for me was showing up positive for amph in drug tests

 

[rockstar 69]

Let us know how you get on young Kronos! I sense the force is strong in you, lol. This is what I've bought aswell so if it's still wonkable at least I can fill my nostrils over new year. Is ephedrine dangerous anyone know? The good thing is that place have changed their supplier and it will be back to bang on crystal next time apparently, with intrest :D

 

[ColtDan]

coltdan requires some some wobbly weekend wonkable post haste

 

[otm]

Mmmmmmm ketamax.

 

[growit&smokeit]

Anyway, as for the drought... I've been informed by a couple of people now who are pretty high up in the K supply that big batches are just not getting through customs in India/Pakistan since that big bust in India in June. On top of that there's alot of shit/fake K now being sold on by Asian labs. Because of the loose - loose situation I'd imagine more than a few people being put off.

I've actually had some info from a vendor that some of the ketamine about came from a lab who cut their stuff with ephedrine


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I wonder if all this dodgy powder stuff is coming straight from asia and it isn't being knowingly cut by dealers. There are a lot of labs knocking out counterfit benzos so maybee they are diversifying to Ketamine.

Wouldn't suprise me if what I have is ketamine cut with ephedrine. It causes wonkyness but I feel like I have high blood presure and some mild chest pains the day after.

 

[rockstar 69]

^ No. This was just in one case. Although the lab manufacturing this stuff is certainly producing multi kilo batches, so.... there will be a fair whack of that stuff out there. It's a shiney white powder, apparently still feel wonky off it and is possible to hole, but it stings the nose quite badly. There is still nice legit crystal K out there though looks like I'll be sniffing the cut stuff on new year. After that I should be ok and back to bang on crystal batch.

I think though this probably explains the demand for vials. Personally the best K I've had has always actually been sold as crystals. I guess vials are guarenteed ketamine though.

 

[ferrett1979]

FINALLY seems to be some good crystal going aoround Bristol area Not powdery at all, sugary like crystal Happy New Year!

 

[kader]

I've got a bit of this, gonna have another whack t it in an hour or so. Never had ephedrine before just thought it was average quality k, burnt when sniffed but could still get wobbled/hole off it. Tell tale sign for me was showing up positive for amph in drug tests

Just picked up some stuff that burns like a bastard too. Maybe similar. I'll see how it goes..

 

[bighouse911]

Just picked up some stuff that burns like a bastard too. Maybe similar. I'll see how it goes..

yuppp got the same stuff!

looks very weird, but is def ketamine! didnt try and hole but had a lovely wonky evening, got the bruises on my arm to prove it!

SO HARD TO SLEEP after, so quite possibly ephedrine is making a difference there but didn't notice it any other sense. seriously had no sleep last night lol, but thats normal for me neways, brain goes into hyper drive!!

so, K for the first time in 3 months! was fun, but I may be thinking more about whether I wanna use K as I used to! spec for £20 a G. Will be getting some more for NYE anyways, if not before

 

[rockstar 69]

^ Synth discussion like this isn't allowed on BL, I'd hazzard a guess that will get removed mate. The K IS cut with ephedrine, I've been told this by the pakistani vendor who's had it. Why would the vendor claim their stuff is cut with ephedrine if it wasn't? Even as far as to do a free reship. Also read above ColourfulKronos (who has the same stuff) gave a false positive for amphetamines after taking it. Fits the bill for ephedrine which would come up as amph on drug tests.

As for the change of synth is there any reason your saying they are changing method? There's been no change in the quality of the K I'd been getting til a few weeks ago when I bought grams off different sources to usual. The crystals coming out of Asia have always been consistently top notch anytime I've had them from someone who ordered. It's just people cutting their k or passing off other stuff as k that's the problem. Bound to`happen when demand for k in the uk far exceeds supply recently.

 

[mattnotrik]

Like people are saying I had that stuff the other week, small crystal and some shards, but it burns like a fucking cunt, like no other, a bit weak but its definitley ket, had trouble sleeping on it aswell must all be the same batch. Im sure i smelt a little m-cat in there though I cant be sure.

Anyway some new ket arrived today, its really really powedery but its very good and potent, well I got bummed with £37 but its worth it.

 

[shamone]

hey guys,

as you can see from my post count i am relatively new to this site, but have been a regular part of the k scene in brighton for a long time, and know the people in the know if you know what i mean.

Sorry to sound like a downer, but i dont think this is any normal drought as has happened before, i honestly think te days of top notch, un cut k is gone forever. it, in my opinion will go the wy of coke, whenever people can get their hands on it it is gonna get cut and sold for 20+ for 0.8's. there has been too many factors affecting the mass production and major import routes to the uk that have made me come to this conclusion. Sure, there may be drips and drabs of some purish shards people have luckily managed to get their hands on, but i doubt they will be likely to sell it in that condition, and if they do it will be sold at prices higher than even 20+. I know people that would pay 40 for a g of old indian shards...

i hope im wrong and please, if you can persuade me i am then please do, but thats just how i feel at the moment. Again, sorry to put a downer on anyones night, day or month, but i just thought i would put my opinion out there (maybe actually hoping someone can respond to make me think this is complete rubbish, but its just become too long, and too many proven resons for this particular drought for me to think its anything less than permanent)

peace and love