Ketamine Discussion- Quality and regional info

[rockstar 69]

How much did you use? Sounds likely the K at least played some role in it. I once had slight stomach cramps doing 7gs in 3 days during the week, 2 days off, and then a heavy weekend session with K, booze and 2c-i. Certainly nothing major though and I would say that was from just using too much of everything.

It's best just not to do it one consecutive days and do it now and again I guess but if I have it laying around I tend to use it daily til it's gone. I always feel positive and that it was worth it after doing K though, which is what seperates it from the rest.

7zark7 thanks for that post very intresting. Vader that link is to the wrong thread man.

 

[Vader]

It's to the thread I intended it to be to...

 

[Kronos]

at least an 8th a day since monday - thurs. Probably double that weds and thurs :/. I've got shit self control as it is and after the break i just went at it, its great for escapism and i needed that for a while lol. Hurt when i pissed weds and thurs aswel, not today though so it probably was partly due to the k. None left anyways thank fuck or id probably be back at it

 

[rockstar 69]

It's to the thread I intended it to be to...

After actually reading it I get where your coming from. I was already aware of this and don't plan on letting anything similar happening to me.

at least an 8th a day since monday - thurs. Probably double that weds and thurs :/. I've got shit self control as it is and after the break i just went at it, its great for escapism and i needed that for a while lol. Hurt when i pissed weds and thurs aswel, not today though so it probably was partly due to the k. None left anyways thank fuck or id probably be back at it

That's heavy! What were you dosing in a line? About 300mg is as high as I've ever gone. I find after using it in the week previous I need to be with alot of people in unfamiliar surroundings for it to work at the weekend. And although I usually have zero tollerance to start with I end up needing twice as much as when I started to get wonky or hole, whichever I'm aiming for.

 

[brimz]

Ketamine is 'bad' for your bladder after only huge, repeated doses over a long period. Nothing to do with crystallisation 8) and I don't buy the norketamine metabolite idea either.

From: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21028174.100-chronic-ketamine-use-kills-bladder-cells.html

"20 per cent of people who have taken high doses of ketamine several times a week over months to years have experienced urinary tract problems."

"In an as-yet-unpublished study, Simon Baker and Jennifer Southgate at the University of York, UK, added ketamine to human urothelium cells, which line the bladder. With increasing doses, the cells rapidly became cytostatic - they stopped growing - and then died with further increases."

So it sounds that, as the amount of ketamine in the bladder increases in concentration, the more cells will die (Cytotoxicity). Common sense would tell you to keep the concentration down by drinking fluids and regularly emptying your bladder through urination.

I imagine that a number of people, who are heavy users, are not doing either of the above as often as they should be - which is understandable, as ketamine has a habit of keeping you in one place for a long time!


As an even more of-the-wall idea, if ketmine is cytotoxic only to bladder cells, then I wonder if it would be effective at treating bladder cancer?

I'm not even big in to Ket its more of a young folks thing .

This post is the one that gives the best info , nice one mate.

 

[Kronos]

After actually reading it I get where your coming from. I was already aware of this and don't plan on letting anything similar happening to me.



That's heavy! What were you dosing in a line? About 300mg is as high as I've ever gone. I find after using it in the week previous I need to be with alot of people in unfamiliar surroundings for it to work at the weekend. And although I usually have zero tollerance to start with I end up needing twice as much as when I started to get wonky or hole, whichever I'm aiming for.

I'm not sure, i eyeballed it but a bag of 0.7 uncut was gone in a line or 2 so i'd guess around 500mg a line, i doubt that much would even absorb.. i danno. Gonna take it easy now though, had a high tolerance to start off with and it shot straight up again

 

[rockstar 69]

Intresting, how long are your breaks between binges? I always thought a month between binges would clear tollerance but I think once you break a new boundry in dosing your bound to want to get that same hit again.

Also, found this earlier; http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/447697-Ketamine-Subthread-Isomers-R-and-S-Ketamine intresting information about the isomers. Going by that it seems S(+) isomer is the one your looking for. And I would say it seems likely most of the K around the UK is definately a mix of S(+) and R(-).

This is also worth a read; http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=43590

 

[Scott J]

Dunno if the k is related or not but been smashing the k the last few days, woke up yesterday with real bad stomach cramps, crawled to the bathroom and threw up 10+ times but the pain kept getting worse, im alright for pain usually but this was something else. Kept getting worse to the point i couldnt move, screaming into a pillow after about 20 mins i couldnt stand it anymore & phoned an ambulance, cunts wouldnt give me any morphine cause im on naltrexone/past drug abuse so gave me (edit)*entonox which didnt help at all.
Anyway they reckon it was summat to do with my appendix but wernt sure so didnt do the operation, i reckon it might've been k related but i'm not sure. Passed out or fell asleep after 6 hours or so and wasnt so bad when i woke up so i went, still getting stabbing pains every now and then but nothing too bad. I think it was k related though, either way im laying off it for a bit!

This sounds like typical K-Cramps, mate.

Knock it on the head for as long as possible and you'll recover.

 

[mattnotrik]

^ That's not really a big order concidering some people will inevitably be greedy and bosh loads of it themselves.

Does anyone know how dangerous it would be to take Ketamine with a cahciter bag on? I ended up with it after getting hit with bad pills they put it in because I was unconscious for too long. My bladder is not fucked but they boshed up taking the cahciter out (hence why I'm still with it) and a result my cock is suffering to put iit bluntly.

I have no plans of caining the K. Was more thinking I would just buy 1-3.5g, and do one decent line every few nights to stop me feeling so shit about everything. Ketamine makes me feel much more positive in general and I reckon the medicinal effect could do my mindset some good.

I'm not on any other medication either. I'm going to be on this for roughly another 2.5 weeks.

Well that was out of the 800grams that the main guy bought he had to turn people down for big orders he was just selling it in a high price in small amounts and I dont blame him, it was good quality stuff though but ive had better..

 

[Darksidesam]

There was once this man sitting in the corner of rave event selling excellent K .
He looked like this http://www.mcphee.com/creepyhorsemask/images/horselounge.jpg Rofl

 

[Kronos]

Intresting, how long are your breaks between binges? I always thought a month between binges would clear tollerance but I think once you break a new boundry in dosing your bound to want to get that same hit again.

Also, found this earlier; http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/447697-Ketamine-Subthread-Isomers-R-and-S-Ketamine intresting information about the isomers. Going by that it seems S(+) isomer is the one your looking for. And I would say it seems likely most of the K around the UK is definately a mix of S(+) and R(-).

This is also worth a read; http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=43590

Lol i dont really know due to a benzo addiction and a bit of a drinker so my memorys for want of a better word.. fucked, but since about jan id some k when i was craving meph or a stim. Used to be maybe a few times a week. Had a break since the drought for about 3 weeks or a month or maybe a bit longer, i dunno never really thought about it. Got to a point by weds/thurs wherew i could function pretty much normally n matter how much i sniffed. Was good k mind.

When i get it i dunno the difference between r n s isomers, i presume its a mix like you say

This sounds like typical K-Cramps, mate.

Knock it on the head for as long as possible and you'll recover.

Aye probably, never felt pain like it though (and iv had pretty bad k cramps in the past) and iv been in pretty bad pain before. and i'm gonna. Il get some vials instead of crystal in a week or 2 and slam once in a while it rather than sniff loads if/when i do it, nurse made a fucking mess of my arms/hands, couldnt take blood for shit so i look like an IV user anyways lol

 

[rockstar 69]

If your going to inject it IM don't IV there's no need and muscular injection is said to be the best ROA.

I find it hard to hole on K when I've been doing benzos regular. Glad I don't do them so regular now.

 

[brimz]

Never IV Ket you may miss which theirs a good chance of , if your new to Needles . Also theirs just no point .

If you wanna IM it use a 3or 5 ml barrel and a long or short orange spike only inject Ket that has come from a sealed vial that you have opened yourself. Don't take someones word for it unless of course you see them break the seal in front of you .
Personally i would use my bicep , you need an area with a fair bit of muscle to absorb the liquid.

 

[Scott J]

Has anyone else seen this really damp K going about the South West?

It's really clumpy, slightly discoloured but a lot stronger than anything else I've seen for a long while.

I've had it from two different sources, so assume there's a fair bit of it going round.

 

[rockstar 69]

Ketamine is a salt, shouldn't be damp.

 

[matt<3ketamine]

hopefully have some nice k tomorrow, i highly look forward to it back to norm prices too but guy said he might not have anymore after this, someone really needs to step up and fill the india guy's shoes! QUICKLY!

 

[DS_]

Bristol's back in action with decent quality wonk there seems to be a fair amount about especially compared to last week. I'm still avoiding it though. Fuck £20s this drought has been top for my health.

 

[Vader]

Ketamine is a salt, shouldn't be damp.

Water weighs a lot, they probably just decided they'd make more money if they didn't dry it completely.

 

[Scott J]

This stuff just won't dry out properly. Incorrect synthesis or something? I dunno.

Despite this, it's still strong and feels exactly like K.

 

[DS_]

At least it's cut with something presumably inactive. Active cuts are a joke.