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Ketamine Analog?

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So I heard this fella talking about this stuff that he claimed was "synthetic K", which makes absolutely no sense, but I think he meant it was something like an analog of K. He made the analogy of what LSA is to LSD, this stuff is to actual K. Instead of coming in a liquid, or a crystaline power, this stuff came in chunks, all almost the exact same size, that were maybe a millimeter and a half around. Looked a lot like those really big chunks of raw sugar cane sugar, or maybe really tiny beads. Not at all powdery or even like poorly cut powder that comes from cooking K. The high is similar, but no where near as good, or 'clean', or long lasting, and it has a noticeably greater burning sensation in the nose. Also, K holes don't really happen. This isn't the case of just one shady dude, either, as apparently this stuff is more common/accessible than real Ketamine, and most of the times what is sold as Ketamine is actually this half-assed analog.

Has anyone else heard of this? Any idea what the hell it is?

EDIT: I already UTFSE, and the closest I could find was Methoxetamine. However, it seems that from what I've read, Methoxetamine is longer lasting, not shorter lasting, and is actually enjoyable in its own right (something like an opiate pleasantness?), whereas this stuff just seems like.... really shitty K. Does the rest of my above description describe Methoxetmine?
 
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Tiletamine?

I got some Ketamine that was really weird, kinda felt like it but there was something missing to the high. And you had to do quite a bit to feel anything compared to what i usually get. And could also never really k-hole. And one other thing is that it had a really big body buzz that was kind of unpleasant.
 
Hmm your description doesn't really match my experiences with methoxetamine. My mxe is usually pretty fine with not alot of chunkiness to it. I've never had ketamine so I can't compare the two, but there is no burning sensation to mxe ime.

It's impossible to say exactly what you've got, but it doesn't sound very much like mxe. There are many other dissociatives out there.
 
I also noticed that my piss wasnt nearly as bad as when i had the regular Ketamine i get. Like after a K-hole/wake up after a night my pee would be super concentrated radioactive yellow. With this stuff it wasnt even that noticeable. Also felt like it wasnt that bad on my bladder either, i didnt notice i had to go to the bathroom any more than usual and i went through at least 14 grams in about 2 weeks.
 
special K is regular K (lol).

technically LSD is to LSA what ketamine is to norketamine (i.e. loss of N-substitution). But this is besides the point. Who knows what that guy meant? Open ended question. Methoxetamine is the more likely one considering prevalence and popularity, tiletamine has a small possibility. Thing like 3-MeO-PCE are not even that analogous anymore let alone the PCP's.
 
methoxetamine was developed in order to stop the effects ketamine has on the bladder, which are well documented. k cramps are seen even in the medical field, not just in rec use.....so i believe mxe was created in order to have a ketamine like drug without the adverse effects. the result is obviously something not so much like ketamine but it should be much much safer on your bladder.
 
I don't think methoxetamine is magically less heavy on the bladder, it is just dosed lower so it takes 2-3x as long to get the same amount of metabolites hanging around your body fucking up your bladder and gallbladder etc. In this case it would be normethoxetamine to do this... Or is there actually reason to believe normethoxetamine is less harmful than norketamine?

In this thread mesketamine had been mentioned as well but nobody really knows what it is so you should really stay away from that until we got more info on it. It could be very harmful to you!

The mesketamine thread, however short it is, is suspended and this thread will be closed now. It's leaning strongly towards an ID thread.


An important thing remains: if you have information that is not a guess or speculation but something substantial that can help us: PM a mod and the thread can be reopen and/or that mod should contact the OP about it.
 
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