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Ketamine; a few questions

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psytaco

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i have the opportunity to get some ketamine. Its not a drug that I have too much experience with. I've only had a couple of key bumps here and there. I'm planning on grabbing half a gram for an upcoming gig.

i've got a few questions:

1) is it good for dancing on? and what would be a recomended dosage for this purpose?
2) How well does it combine with speed? I hear it goes very well with MDMA, but sadly that is not a possiblity for me.
3) what drugs should I steer clear of on it? I have heard to stay away from booze. Do I need to do this altogether, or can I have a few drinks? Also, do I need to steer clear of benzos too?
4) What would be a good dose if I wanted to go into a k hole? is it recommended to have a trip sitter for this, or could I do it by myself. Also, how long does a k hole last and what are the typical effects?

Any other advice about K or harm min tips are much appreciated.
 
I think small amounts and taking at clubs is a waste of time.

Get comfy at home and rail 200mg+ and enojoy the ride for next 1 hour + 1 hour after effects. One of the best experiences you will ever have.
 
1) In my experience, no. Some people like taking low doses of K at clubs, but I find it's not at all social, and it's very hard to dance on.

2) Again, I wouldn't say particularly well, too little speed would just be overpowered by the K, and too much might make the trip uncomfortable, the two just aren't synergistic.

3) I'd recommend staying away from any other CNS depressants, yeah. K is a downer, and combining it with booze/benzos/GHB is a good way to black out or potentially go into respiratory depression.

4) I'd say start with half a point, then do another 30mg every 10 minutes or so until you can't stand up anymore, at which stage you're in a K-Hole :p Personally I've never found K trips particularly uncomfortable, you feel too detached to think anything other than 'hey, this is pretty cool,' but if you do tend to freak out on hallucinogens a sitter couldn't hurt.
 
1) I don't like low doses of ketamine, I prefer to go for the higher ones and it's definitely not clubbing material at those doses. I find low doses just like a weird intoxication that's OK but not great.

2) Doesn't sound like a fantastic combo to me... K and MDMA was good though. :)

3) One or two drinks should be OK, but give it some space before you do the ketamine. Also, if you are doing the benzos at the end of the night to sleep it should be OK but definitely lower the dosage of the benzos!

4) 200mg at once and I'm in a pretty intense state that is not here at all... I don't weigh much either so that is a big dose for me. Check out the dosing section in the Erowid vault on Ketamine.
 
I used to love doing mass doses of k, then try to get inside the club be4 holing it.
haha

sometimes i'm like crab walking it into the club as the hole approachs. slowly make it to a couch
and HOLEEEEEEEEEEEEE :>
 
I have only done it once, and did quite a bit over the course of a night, and I can say that it is just not made for dancing IMO. My legs felt like they were going to give way many times. That's not to say it wasn't interesting to try.

I can't vouch for your other questions as I tried it on its lonesome.

Felt much better when I did the remaining at home, in a bed with some nice ambient music.
 
Thanks for the replies guys.

seems ketamine is not a good drug for going to a gig. i really love this artist (bassnectar) so I want to be able to dance to his stuff.

There also a good chance I will be going alone to this gig, due to friends either going to another friends house party or to another gig, so some strange psychedelic might not be the best. Might just stick with some speed. at least I know what to expect.
 
Its actually classed as a "Dissassosiative" ... :-)

I have been smashing up the K lately..it all depends on the purity/ how much your dealer likes you..

We were getting mad animal K..huge chunky salt like crystals..pure as the driven snow! And if you did 200mg of that you would be in another fucking universe and NOT be able to move for at least 2 hours haha

On the other hand...human K i find to be a bit weaker and need lines at LEAST 2 inches long to get a decent hit off it...

then if you get human K AND they cut it.. well you need even more!

The bump K is definatly the animal K.. i can't tell obviously what you have.

Hopefully it has a nice burn for ya..but id be doing like a 1 inch line in the bathroom...then hit the DF for some dubstepping bro. Just sit down real quick if it gets heavy..(you hopefully won't have a choice..! :-P)

I think it depends on the music as well.. i personally LOVE the feeling of moving around and dancing on K.. even swaying your arms feels awesome haha.

Anyways..enjoy.
 
LOL @ human and animal K...

You will have 'R' (-) isomer, 'S' (+) isomer or a mix of the 2 isomers AKA 'racemic'. Racemic is what you will commonly find in vials for animal or human use and the 'S' or 'R' isomers are more commonly sold through vendors en route to the black market.

'S' is more potent than the 'R', but funnily has a quicker recovery time than racemic or 'R' Ketamine.

http://bja.oxfordjournals.org/content/57/2/197.abstract.

The size, shape and appearance of the crystals has more to do with the type of salt, environment in which it was crystalized and the period of time it took to crystalize than whether it is 'human' or 'animal' grade ketamine.

I'm saving that post for a laugh though and I'm guessing it was dealer spin :)
 
I've had friends talk about how they can get more expensive and better K. For instance they insisted they were getting 'rhino' K, as opposed to just 'horser' K. i had a bit fo laugh at this, and tried to convince them that it is probably all the same stuff, just maybe different purity.
 
Iirc, S-ketamine tends to be more sedating/dissociating and less hullucinogenic than racemic K. I know I've tried different batches that have had distinctly different feels to them, and we came to the conclusion that one batch was racemic and the other pure S-Ketamine (or possibly R? It was a long time ago).

It's all good times though.
 
YEh i just assumed ay..


. the bottle i got said S on the bottom.. and i knew about the 2 isomers but yeh



so an air dry as apposed to a pyrex dish over a steaming dish over a pan of boiling water, would produce large salt like crystals as apoosed to a more powdered chunky crystal kinda looking k..?
 
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^^^ Usually when evaporating any liquid to leave crystals the slower the evaporation the bigger the crystals. Its the same for DMT.

psytaco - Im going to Bassnectar next Friday and would have invited you to come with me but you're in Melbourne.

I was thinking about taking some K to the gig too but not sure being able to dance well. Its going to be epic!!
 
I really don't enjoy doing K in clubs, it's just tends to knock me on my arse especially when im there to be social.

As for combo's, LSD, take it when your peak is diminishing and you'll have the best hallucination experience. I thought the car we were in (at a festival) was a submarine and we submerged and i swore i could see reeds and fish swimming past the window haha, good times.

Start small and work your way up, it shouldn't take too long to hit you but hell, you'll sure know about it when it does :P
 
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