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Ketamine - 8th Time - Beyond The Wall Of Sleep

to DJ TP:
i am not here to knock you. However, I have done meth,K,G,XTC,etc. I have done E and K and I dont really think you can compare the two. If you like smoking weed you will like K. You dont sound like you are too educated in the drug area. You can talk all you want about what you have read and heard, but the real knowledge lies within the actual doing of the drug. I am not talking about fact, but about how one feel and the comparison to other drugs. I might have had some really good K and when you do it if u ever do, yours might not be as good and you might tell me i am wrong, (after you do it of course) but i dont talk about things I have not done. So you shouldnt either. K is a drug that is very different. It can have different effects depending on how much you do. U sound like a person who likes speed. Try K before you knock it. Thats all i have to say. Good luck.
 
Yes, definitely try K before you bash it. I used to think it was stupid, that was before I tried it. Damn you can have some of the most profound experiences on it. If you've never done it you have no right at all to say anything bad about it.
 
Ive only done k once. .and that was almost exactly 1 year ago, It was one experience ill probably never forget. Though i didnt hit a khole or anything like that, (i only did a small amount) It was still amazing. I may decide to try it again soon.. All depends on the people im with.and if i feel comfortable enough around them to really party =)
 
I think that this Sunday, after attending a very large party, we will be having our traditional "Sketch Day" at my friends condo. I'll probably turn to the others in the room, say, "See you all in an hour or so!" and bump my way back to my private little world, and see if the experience is consistent with the last one.
I still smile when I think about it.
 
The neat thing about k is it isn't a linear high like most drugs. Most drugs you get high and you take more and you get higher.
In the case with k the dosage can completely change the "type" of high you experience.
For me it's in stages; a little gives a mild body buzz, a little more causes any kind of motor control to be a challenge, a little more and you go "k-krazy" by experiencing some kind of reality shift or break.
If you do a significant amount of k in a club I suggest you take some time and sit with your eyes closed and listen to the tunes. At one point I shouted "WooHOO, look at my brain go!!"
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rofl, go day_for_night! i think that was exactly what that retard needed
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Followup: I visited my k-hole again last Sunday.
Knowing full well that I intended to hole, I decided to do it right proper. Last time it took 6 bumps and 3 hours (regular intervals). This time, I took 6 bumps - all at once.
30 seconds from lucidity to hole. I sat down in a bean bag chair, and in seconds, the basement room stretched out to about a mile in length, and then *poof* - it was gone.
One of my compatriots took 8 bumps right after I took mine. The last thing that filtered into my conscious mind before I disconnected was the sound of that person saying, "Oh my god, what have I done..."
6 bumps was too much. I didn't have nearly the control over my mental environment - it was constantly cycling, shifting and changing. It was EXTREMELY intense, almost too much so. I enjoyed it, but I was also very wary of it.
After an indeterminate amount of time, I roused from my k-hole just barely enough to realize I had to go to the washroom, so I somehow got upstairs. Any second I was going to fall back into the hole. When I came out of the washroom, my friend Shannon asked if I wanted to go back to the couches downstairs.
We had set up some blacklights and some mindnumbing psychedelic toys that were very intense down there - I did NOT want to face it. But, being in the firm grip of the K, I couldn't quite explain that. After some unintelligeable mumblings, I finally got the answer out. "No downstairs. Downstairs bad."
She held out her hands, "Can I help you to the couch?" In a chipper voice, I held up my hands, and said, "Thank you!". Once I was safely on the couch, back in the hole I went.
I was a bit queasy at the end. Four bumps from the bumper bottle would have been sufficient.
What was more intense this time was the rate at which my brain worked to make connections between EVERYTHING. Every individual thought linked to all others - a vast interconnectedness that was impossible to ignore.
Ketamine is bizarre.
 
How big were your bumps as far as mg's go. I've been tring to reach a nice k-hole with good visuals. I've been tring to do 2 real big lines at a time, one in each nostril. It made me not able to move and when I was watchin hollow man it felt like I was in the movie. Also everything I did before the hole felt like a dream. Wondering if i can intensify the hole in any way.peace
 
Petersko: Just a theory on your last experience... oscarthegrouch hit it with one word - Ketamine for me has been very useful for 'disassociating'. Perhaps the large amount caused you to fight that feeling in a way by trying so hard to connect everything. But I agree that it is very easy to cross the line into too much K... ask anyone that saw me at Starscape last weekend. :P
girlcandy: I understand where you're coming from. I asked so many questions before trying K, because I was looking for how much the experience would teach me, not how f*ed up I could get. I can only tell you that my mind was open to explore itself more on ketamine than any other drug I have tried, aside from that first experience with ecstasy. I am more suited to the learning experiences with this particular drug, some are not. Absolutely try it if you are on a search for new perspectives, and know your own mind well enough to see those for what they are. You seem to be very conscious and careful about your drug use, and as long as you're sure to be safe, it's one of the better options in my opinion.
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(I have never tried meth, so I have no opinion on it whatsoever... I prefer downers
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MDMARI - I'd say roughly half a point per bump, or 300mg.
However, the K in question isn't stepped on at all, unlike most club K.
Dagny - Interesting thoughts. One thing I've found is that the interconnectedness is a key part of the K experience. At lower doses it seems as if I can see underlying connections and patterns between unrelated events.
In the k-hole above, though, it was nonstop. Every thought connected with several others at high speed. Ever make a series of deductive leaps - say six or seven - and felt that sense of excitement, the fevered pitch when you're approaching the answer to a problem? It felt like I was in that state for a couple hours.
I'm almost sure I got a glimpse at what it feels like to be insane. It was exhausting.
Ketamine is simply the most malleable, controllable drug of the ones I've tried. The stages of the drug are all vastly different - the floaty feeling of a small bump bears to resemblance, even in passing, to the psychedelic madness of a large bump in a disorienting environment. And the k-hole seems to be an absolutely unique experience.
I do not recommend k-holes to everybody. I had the presence of mind to understand what was happening, and to enjoy myself while in the experience. However, if I could not assert control over that mental environment, or if I actually believed I might never emerge from it, it could be a terrifying place.
I'll revisit it in more controlled doses in a month or so.
[This message has been edited by Petersko (edited 17 June 2001).]
 
I have had many good experiences with K myself. The best had to have been while I was vacationing in Puerto Vallarta I bought some from the local veterinary clinic. It was Keteset. Poured it on a plate and put the plate over a boiling pot of water. After it was crystallized I thouroughly enjoyed the warm sandy beaches that were outside of the flat I was staying in. Very very enjoyable.
 
hey guys!
first of all your report on your k-hole was fantastic, out of the drugs that i have tried, Ketamine has to be my fav! the way you worded your report was excelent, as i know from past exprence, trying to put down what happend in your own k-hole is no mean feat! i.e VERY HARD TO EXPLAIN....
i have found in the past, when railing lines of Ket, with the intent of holeing, getting yourself of a platau is always a good way to start, last week, with friends we had some good clean Ket, (not cut down with anything) my first attemt at holeing, was by going a 1/4 gram line, i didnt make the hole because my friends started to get VERY scared as she slipped in to it.... so i was trying to keep awake to help her.....
when she was ok, aprox 50 mins later, i was still quite wobbly, blury vision ect ect....
i racked up another line of aprox 1/3 of a gram, and OH MY GOD! did i go down!.... i lay on the carpet, and with my eyes open, watched the room change, in so many ways it changed that i could never put them all down in here.....
i can say from that exprenece, that it was life changing, i had seen how things COULD be.... i had listened to how music COULD sound... but as per usual, i cant describe it as you have....
well done on a top report,
Tone
 
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