Keeping muscle/losing weight

[asdasd]

Hey gang.

If I do roids and get big can I keep the muscle, or will it go if I stop taking roids? I know you have to cycle and everything, but if I come of roids and keep bodybuilding will I stay as big as I got?

Also my girlfriend is a fat bitch and wants to lose weight - If she takes testosterone based roids will it speed up her metabolism and let her lose wight?

 

[JimmyTarbuck]

Yeah you keep it. I put on 100 pounds and kept it by drinking protein shakes.

 

[KStoner6tb]

^it is possible

 

[AASTIL]

For both of you, look into equipoise. You will need to do it for 12 weeks, but its good, solid, lean gains. Also its the safest one. Your girlfriend can use it too without the bad effects. Because of the length of the cycle its pricey, but I've done everything but Growth, and once I tried EQ, its my juice of choice. (you do need to do 200-400mg of test a week though also unless you want your girlfriend leaving you though!)

 

[maakshif]

For both of you, look into equipoise. You will need to do it for 12 weeks, but its good, solid, lean gains. Also its the safest one. Your girlfriend can use it too without the bad effects. Because of the length of the cycle its pricey, but I've done everything but Growth, and once I tried EQ, its my juice of choice. (you do need to do 200-400mg of test a week though also unless you want your girlfriend leaving you though!)

never ever under any circumstance give women equipoise or any anabolic/androgenic steroid....women should only be given steroids under a doctor's supervision

equipoise can and does begin giving them male characteristics and it is not the safest steroid though it is one of the safest...it should always be used with test as test should be the base of any and all cycles, but equipoise is not known to cause any libido problems

I'm gonna reiterate what I said in the other post:

"DO MORE RESEARCH BECAUSE YOU CLEARLY HAVE VERY LITTLE UNDERSTANDING OF AAS" and just because you've done everything but GH doesn't mean you know what you are talking about and you clearly don't so please please stop giving out horrible advice

 

[AASTIL]

equipoise can and does begin giving them male characteristics and it is not the safest steroid though it is one of the safest...it should always be used with test as test should be the base of any and all cycles, but equipoise is not known to cause any libido problems

I'm gonna reiterate what I said in the other post:

"DO MORE RESEARCH BECAUSE YOU CLEARLY HAVE VERY LITTLE UNDERSTANDING OF AAS" and just because you've done everything but GH doesn't mean you know what you are talking about and you clearly don't so please please stop giving out horrible advice[/QUOTE]

The use of different substances makes equipoise my personal favorite from my experiences and results:

But many hours of research and talking to the guys that are on the chemistry side of the business have given me the knowledge that:
1) Women who chose to use steroids (really shouldn't everyone really do these under a physicians care) are best with the substance because virilization is rare.
2) Equipoise is considered the safest of steroids, however,
3) It will cause a suppression of natural testosterone production, so as with any cycle, test should be in there.

I always recommend checking several reliable sources, and look at what you are willing to risk for what you really want to accomplish.

 

[maakshif]

The use of different substances makes equipoise my personal favorite from my experiences and results:

But many hours of research and talking to the guys that are on the chemistry side of the business have given me the knowledge that:
1) Women who chose to use steroids (really shouldn't everyone really do these under a physicians care) are best with the substance because virilization is rare.
2) Equipoise is considered the safest of steroids, however,
3) It will cause a suppression of natural testosterone production, so as with any cycle, test should be in there.

I always recommend checking several reliable sources, and look at what you are willing to risk for what you really want to accomplish.

where do you talk to these chemists? do you work for one of the big pharmaceutical companies or do you work with scientists that are conducting or have conducted studies over the years on AAS?

I've done years of research that I still do to this day and unless you can quote multiple studies from these so called scientist you say you talk to, I stand by what I said. You definitely proved me somewhat wrong as you've shown that you've got more understanding than I gave you credit for, but I still don't feel that it is overwhelmingly accurate.

for women primo and nandrolone (NPP) are considered best and the safest injectible steroids at low-moderate doses...equipoise is more androgenic, though only slightly, than nandrolone and being more androgenic means that it can produce more sides....anavar in very low doses is considered the safest oral and is the most commonly used...equipoise is a good choice but it still isn't the best or safest, imo.

also equipoise isn't considered the safest steroid, it is the mildest in terms of gains though it can have some nasty sides, mainly unbearable anxiety for many many people...test is considered the safest (for males) because it is the naturally occurring precursor to most all AAS, DHT being the other.

I'm not going to disagree with you in terms of preference of Equipoise as it has been a staple in all of my cycles for the last 10 years along with test and tren.

 

[AASTIL]

Unbearable anxiety? I must admit I've never heard of that. I've run the same cycles, and I've found 18 weeks of EQ optimal, past that I've never gotten much. I also like throwing the tren in the middle...how do you run this?

 

[maakshif]

Unbearable anxiety? I must admit I've never heard of that. I've run the same cycles, and I've found 18 weeks of EQ optimal, past that I've never gotten much. I also like throwing the tren in the middle...how do you run this?

anxiety is very common with EQ...if you've never had it be thankful because all of the people I know personally that suffer from it and all of the people on some other boards that say they suffer from it report that it is unbearable if you get it

I always run EQ a min of 16 weeks sometimes longer and always at 600 mg/wk...that dose seems to be the sweet spot for me and 98% of everybody else that runs it

as for the tren it depends if I'm running tren ace or tren enanthate...if I run ace in a long cycle I usually kickstart the cycle with tren and prop for 6 weeks then take a break from the prop/tren and finish off the last 8-10 weeks with prop/tren straight into pct, but I don't recommend this for most others. I've ran more than enough cycles to know my body and I get blood work done throughout my cycles...if I run tren e I usually run it for the last 12 weeks or for the whole cycle just depends on how I'm feeling when I start the cycle

 

[Juice23]

If you want ur missus to sound like a bloke then yeah shoot some juice in her. But seriously, don't give her AAS, ephedrine for 2 weeks followed by clen for 2 weeks and so on, but make sure gets her ass up and works out else she'll just be shaking like a shitting dog.

 

[Juice23]

equipoise can and does begin giving them male characteristics and it is not the safest steroid though it is one of the safest...it should always be used with test as test should be the base of any and all cycles, but equipoise is not known to cause any libido problems

I'm gonna reiterate what I said in the other post:

"DO MORE RESEARCH BECAUSE YOU CLEARLY HAVE VERY LITTLE UNDERSTANDING OF AAS" and just because you've done everything but GH doesn't mean you know what you are talking about and you clearly don't so please please stop giving out horrible advice

The use of different substances makes equipoise my personal favorite from my experiences and results:

But many hours of research and talking to the guys that are on the chemistry side of the business have given me the knowledge that:
1) Women who chose to use steroids (really shouldn't everyone really do these under a physicians care) are best with the substance because virilization is rare.
2) Equipoise is considered the safest of steroids, however,
3) It will cause a suppression of natural testosterone production, so as with any cycle, test should be in there.

I always recommend checking several reliable sources, and look at what you are willing to risk for what you really want to accomplish.[/QUOTE]

I'd say primo or var are the safer AAS to be honest, fook all sides imo

 

[slicemonkey]

I'd say primo or var are the safer AAS to be honest

bump, primo and var are a lot safer than EQ. Its a veterinary steroid afterall.