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Keeping BP under control

Holy crap 8(. So many quacks on bluelight !!

1.) If you have BP issues, don't take the damn drugs. It's that simple.

2.) There is no way of accurately knowing your BP without actually having it measured (by someone who has been trained on how to do so)

3.) Some of the drugs mentioned as a self-initiated treatment can be very dangerous. Definitely not for those who are not educated in medicine.
 
mad_scientist said:
Atenolol (or other beta blockers) works great for regulating blood pressure increases from meth, MDMA etc and should be safe to combine with DMT or psilocin. Not sure if combining it with DXM would be sensible though.
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can anyone confirm this? sometimes i get scary high BP on meth, and want to know if this is safe to try.
 
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Atenolol lowers blood pressure, just like any diuretic. Another good one is hydroclorothiazide. How high does your BP get? Its one thing to be 160/90, and its another thing to be 200/120.
 
Unknown said:
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Atenolol lowers blood pressure, just like any diuretic. Another good one is hydroclorothiazide. How high does your BP get? Its one thing to be 160/90, and its another thing to be 200/120.
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I was too stupid to test it beforehand. However, an hour after 50mg Atenolol I was 120/74 with 90 BPM. So definitely no high blood pressure then. Further testing required...I guess. It'd be interested to hear in anyone elses experiences though..
 
Dont take beta blockers while actually on stimulants, dont use them as an emergency medicine. If you have to calm down and lower your BP while spun out than take some benzos.

Taking them beforehand is a different story but even then it may have some adverse effects that im not aware of especially if you're using large amounts of stims. There isnt a contradiction between propanolol/atenolol and therapeutic levels of amphetamine at a pharmacy level or i would have heard about it but that doesnt mean they're safe to use with large amounts of meth.
 
Lupus said:
Dont take beta blockers while actually on stimulants, dont use them as an emergency medicine. If you have to calm down and lower your BP while spun out than take some benzos.

Taking them beforehand is a different story but even then it may have some adverse effects that im not aware of especially if you're using large amounts of stims. There isnt a contradiction between propanolol/atenolol and therapeutic levels of amphetamine at a pharmacy level or i would have heard about it but that doesnt mean they're safe to use with large amounts of meth.
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This man is correct. If you block beta receptors then the alpha effect goes unchecked leading to the vessels clamping down and possible hypertensive emergency. You can use calcium channel blockers like diltiazem or a non selective adrenergic antagonist like phentolamine (this is not a commonly used drug though). During a major geekout they would probably run diltiazem even before the tox screen is back and just offer supportive measures and lots of benzos and maybe a little haldol depending on how wacked out you are.

Diuretics are also a kind of shitty choice because they don't lower bp that much and that could lead to dehydration.

With pure MDMA you should not be experiencing much anxiety but lots of pills are cut with speed.
 
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