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ok guys i know there are plenty of threads on K2/Spice/other blends with JWH-xxx and similar substances that bind to canna receptors, this thread is a bit different. i am creating this thread to focus solely on K2 Summit or blends with the same ethnobotanical and chemical contents. i have done my research on these blends on and off the past year,reading reviews and such, so tho i am no expert i kinda understanded them enough to finally suck it up, buy some, and suck it up again. i chose K2 summit because i found a good deal on it and have read its one of the stronger and longer lasting blends, tho there are conflicting reports, but overall it looked like a good start between price,lasting power, and potency. now lets get to the meat of my thread. as i previously stated, i have seen conflicting reports on this with regards to the feel, potency, taste/smell, and appearance. different people feel substances in different ways due to body chemistry, tolerance, cross tolerance, mood, etc. i have also heard there are counterfit K2 blends out there. being unregulated this is plausible, but could be because of different body chemistry causing a different feel, or due to setting.
so lets get this going shall we?

1)where did you obtain it? online, as in auction sites and amazon, ethnobotanical sites......or a head shop? please no direct sourcing as it is against the rules. auction type sites, ethnobotanical/specialty herb sites, or head shop. those are the only valid answers so we can keep within the rules.

2)was it more comparable to cannabinoids,salvia(mine had a very salvia-like feeling at first and i have seen some reports claiming it felt like there was salvia added, but salvia isnt listed in the contents on the K2 website which makes me wonder about counterfit blends possibly containing salvanorin to add to the kick), a mix of the two?

3) appearance. mine came in a 3-4 inch square foil looking ziplock bag, very similar to the packaging on the website of the real deal. the raw material also looked very similar to afformentioned site. it had a very potpourri look to it.
some others ive seen came in clear bags, some looked a bit more like random food spices mixed together.

4)how did it smell. ive seen it described as a peppery(mine was like that, had a bite to it like freshly crushed black pepper)

5)how experienced are you with cannabis and tolerance. did it feel stronger or weaker? i took 2 hits off my batch. ive been toking for years, steady smoking a quarter to an ounce a week. at first i felt like i had a threshold salvia buzz, then it slowly creeped up on me and felt like i smoked a joint of cannabis from when i first started smoking for 20-30 minutes. after that it kinda faded around 45 minutes later i felt as if i smoked half a spliff 30 minutes prior.

6) how long did it last not counting afterglow? reports ive read claim 30 minutes on the low end, 6 hours on the high end. i got about 90 minutes feel good feeling if you averaged onset and declining peak.

7) there was more i was wanting to ask but since my buzz faded i kinda forgot. so #7 is here to add whatever else you have to say.
 
1. Headshop

2. i havent gotten to try K2 or any JWHs on thier own i have only had it in conjunction with real weed n oxy soo i dunno

3. same 3-4 inch ziploc bag but it is the color of tin foil

4. dunno, dont remember, not particularly pleasent if i remember correctly but i knowi didnt give it a smell check, ya know

5. 7 yrs everyday smoker

6. ?? couldnt tell ya, i smoked a bowl of K2 n then smoked bowls of reg weed repeatedly after soo who knows

7. ??

hey i got a ?? for you OP

in all your research of K2 products have u been able to find out what JWH/ other synthetic cannabinoids are in K2(if any at all)?
 
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some of the sites say baybean extract is the active compound. some say its placebo(definatly isnt placebo, im high as hell, getting that tmie-dialation thing like back when i first started smokin bud). some say JWH-018 and JWH-073. who knows how accurate the tests and stuff is.
 
1) Online speciality site.
2) Nothing like salvia. Very, very much like weed.
3) Ziploc-type bags, not foil. Like potpourri, or random herbs mixed together (aren't they they same?)
4) I am not a fan of the smell. I have Blonde and Summit, and Blonde is slightly less offensive to me, odor-wise. Maybe Summit is slightly peppery. Hard to describe.
5) I have smoked weed for 23 years, though I stopped when I moved to Japan. K2 feels almost exactly like a good, strong weed high.
6) My first hit of Blonde (vaporized) made me feel a full-on weed high, but it only lasted 3 hours total, counting come-down. The peak was around 2 hours. I have built up a tolerance, and now each peak lasts around 1 hour +, depending on how much I vaporize (usually 1 hit, but 2 if I want a strong high, or 3-4 if I have been high all day on K2 and want to get high yet again). (NB: I am a lightweight, with all drugs. I almost always took 2 hits of weed to get high, and it takes me 1-2 of K2 generally speaking.)
7) K2 is my favorite "legal high" of those I have tried (including Spice Gold/Diamond, Magic Silver/Gold, and Dream). It is the best high, and lasts a short enough time to partake on a weeknight before bed. I like it <3.
It is almost definitely not baybean, or any other herb, that makes K2 psychoactive in this way. It is almost definitely a cannabinoid. My best guess is that it contains JWH-073, based on what I have read about effects and duration.
 
thanks for the answers.
i finished mine today, each time it had a salvia feel to it, i think my bag truly had some in it. over all summit i find to b a bit lacking. first time after the peak i was feelin good, next day made me tired. after that its like a half assed substitute, sometimes it felt right, sometimes just made me tired.
 
I just tried some yesterday.... I met a girl around town who had brought some with her from another state (forget where) she told me to expect and Ex/weed high.

It at first deff felt like a slight salvia high, that is not to say it had any salvia in it it did not. After 10-15 minutes i started getting very ditsy forgetfull and had bad balance and coordination. I had strong heart palpitations, and the effects were so strong I had to sit down for a while. While i was sitting down I tried to use my cell to text someone, I couldnt get more than 3 letters typed before i forot what i was doing and would space out and close my eyes having weird micro dreams. It was stronger than weed imo but may be cause my tollerance.
It was more psychadelic, it made everything look far away/dreamy. I had no idea what it was when I smoked it, she said k2 but I didnt know she meant spice/JWH-073 so at first when the effects were so satrong I thought she had laced it with pcp or sherm.

Deffinattely an awesome experience, I would try it again.
 
I really want to say some shit to people to try and help them. Do not smoke this shit. There is no way to know what impurities are in it. I really think I have permanent damage to my brain or nerves or something. I have smoked crack, sniffed pills oded on every drug known to man and this shit scares me more than all that shit. If the jwh-18 were pure i dont think it would be so bad. But it is made by some half ass asians in a half ass lab and they dont give a shit. This goes for the jwh and what not you can order "pure" as well. When you smoke it it bypasses your liver and all those impurities go straight to your blood. I still get chest pains. I have a weird numb face thing going on. I wish there was a way for a bunch of us to get together a class action lawsuit or something. this shit is so bad and im worried for all you kids.
 
If your gonna do anything eat it and then your old liver can take some of the blow for you.
 
/sigh.

this has been done before and isn't different from the hundres of other threads I've merged into synthetic or K2 Has Ruined My Life.

That said I'll leave it open for a while, but all of this has already been answered ad-nauseum.
 
Me and my friends got K2 Blonde which is supposed to be the strongest of the k2 brand.

It did not look like real bud at all but it tasted alright. We got it from a smoke shop in town and wow did it rip our asses the first few times, Then after the 4th-5th time it barley did anything. We smoked 7 bong packs our first time to only realize this stuff creeps on you like a motherfucker the feeling i got was unexplainable. I had never felt this way on regular bud but i would say it is very comparable.

After multiple times our buzz would get weaker and weaker and would not last as long, We also tried the herbal incense Kush. Which was the worst tasting stuff i have ever smoked in my life.

I preffer the real stuff more, I feel the herbal incense was a weird phase in my life to try something new. but say your going on vacation and want a way to get a legal buzz herbal incense is the way to go :) (Although it is now illegal here in Ohio)
 
It's legal again in Ohio. I just smoked some the other day after bashing it to this girl I know and she came over and smoked a couple bowls of the purple haze with me and I must say I completely forgot what I was doing, could barely function, about exact high as bud minus the munchies, and it didn't taste too bad yet a tad harsh on the throat.

- Chop chop, bang bang.
 
1) I obtained it... well I can't say because i didn't get it from neither of the choices. Lets just say I obtained from a very unlikely place >_>

2) When I took my first toke ever it was very smooth. And I was beyond high. The high was comparable to Exotic weed, specifically as if i smoked a dub of purple kush. @ one point... the high became intense and I had to take a seat in the park.

3) It came in a cylinder shaped plastic container, and there were many varieties and names. I got blueberry blend. It looked like potpourri.

4) It smelled real fruity and harmless... like blueberry

5) Well in 21 (almost 22) and been smoking the ganja since I was 17. I smoke about a quarter ounce of weed every week? Yea around a quarter ounce a week and some exotics when teh budget allows =3 As previously said it felt like i was zooted (beyond high) off of some kush.

6) It last for about an hour and a half (Including afterglow)for me.

7) I take psycho-active medication (Seroquel XR/ Abilify which increase activity w/ nuerotransmitters, specifically serotonergic activity). I also have been previously diagnosed with MDD/Borderline personality disorder. I mention this because I have hallucinated while smoking K2 (Vision/Perception was altered). Examples: My cigarette looks digitized [A bunch of 0's and 1's compressed together], The window ledge looked like the Battle Star Galatica, and everything looked like it had diamond like porosity upon first glance. I also believe that this drug supresses the Central Nervous System, or at the very least is nuerotoxic for reasons i am not comfortable with sharing but give me great reasons to suspect it. My friend also takes psycho active meds and has more psychological diagnosis than I and also hallucinated (the second time) she smoked k2 with me. She also said her bowels felt loose and had to constrict her rectum in fear of defecating all over herself and dying. I must admit at first k2 made me extremely paranoid to the point of SEVERE PANIC. I have better control over the paranoia now though.
 
all this info and discussion can be found in the [MEGA] synthetics thread ...

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