K-hole with alprazolam(2mg)?

[ketacid]

I'm posting this in order to reduce any possibility of harm for me, or others that have access to these substances. I was finally able to obtain alprazolam for the first time, and I find it to be a very helpful substance in treating my occasional panic attacks/anxiety I experience at the workplace and other events which pan out through the day. However I do not plan on regularly taking these, as I don't want to become addicted and have my anxiety at a worsened state. Anyway, I am very familiar with ketamine and couldn't count the number of k holes I've had on my fingers. So being inexperienced in any benzodiazepine besides diazepam, I'm asking for advice on whether or not it is safe to take 2mg of alprazolam and K-hole. I've heard xanax kinda makes a k hole less psychedelic, but I happen to occasionally experience anxiety when entering the k hole. Getting rid of it would make it much more enjoyable for me. I understand that these drugs are both CNS depressants, so my question is, is it worth it?

 

[《Plasticity》]

I'm going to ask that you please don't, MXE/benzo combos are notorious for inducing blackouts so your plan may backfire. It's happened to me twice and I had to deal with a friend who temporarily went a bit manic/psychotic during one of these "episodes".

I forget if it was etizolam or xanax but he was tripping about his heart rate during an MXE dose so he took one of those two short acting benzos (I wanna say it was 2mgs as well) to calm down and within 30 minutes he was throwing shit around and acting rediculous. He would've never known his behavior if I hadn't of made him clean all the shit he broke

 

[ketacid]

Thanks for your post, Plasticity, that gave me a laugh (had a similar experience with a friend who took too much doses and started destroying everything), but mxe is not of my concern. Mostly because blackouts can be caused by mxe alone, and they're unheard of with ketamine. Are you saying benzos shouldn't be thrown into the mix when holing? Because I've already mixed 1mg of xan with no more than 100mg of ketamine and had a great time, plus I'm taking tolerance to these substances into consideration as well. I just wanna make sure this combo wouldn't be in any way lethal. I've had experience with mxe and have never blacked out on anything before, and I plan on keeping it that way ?

 

[Mysterie]

plz do not combine ketamine or mxe with benzos

they are both cns depressants, and that means that taking your normal dose of these two classes of drugs together, could mean that you black out, you stop breathing for a while, your heart stops.

i have personally blacked out/cardiac arrest/stopped breathing and had the ambulance come to my house after dosing mxe and phenazepam (retarded i know)

ive had a friend act crazy on mxe alone so i don't think its due to the addition of a benzo with it that would have caused that outburst. some people seem to be predisposed to losing their shit on drugs.

 

[《Plasticity》]

^ It was 100% at the fault of the combo. This was a veteran psychedelic/dissociative user who has never showed signs of this type of strange behavior prior (and hasn't since). He blacked out and went psychotic 30 minutes after dosing the benzo. He's taken way higher doses of plain MXE and not once complained of blackouts, not even with IM use.

Perhaps the phrase "tripping about his heart rate" set the wrong tone. In reality he was acting pretty normal, just aware of the tachycardia caused by MXE and in an impaired state put no real thought into repercussions of taking a benzo to relax. The culprit couldn't have been more clear in this case. I mean it's not like this type of stuff is unheard of with these types of combos

@ OP I'm sorry, I meant to say don't take the ketamine/benzo combo. I was aware you were reffering to ketamine at the time of replying. The story of my friend did happen on mxe however, but in reality benzos and dissociatives in general have a tendency to cause blackouts. Be grateful that you haven't blacked out yet, but if you ever plan on doubling your xanax dose know your really playing with fire.

 

[ketacid]

Yeah I think it'll be a better idea to dose these on separate occasions. Although I had fun with low doses, I don't wanna push any limits. I'll probs just save xan for a bad trip or something. I really appreciate your replies, I don't trust pharmaceuticals as much as illegal drugs these days.

 

[《Plasticity》]

Sounds like a good idea, glad I could help

 

[Erikmen]

Combos a rarely a good idea in practice IMO

 

[ketacid]

In reply to this thread after I had survived the night before, I ended up mixing 2mg of alprazolam with at least 150+mg of k and 50+mg of mxe. All of it was eyeballed and pretty unintended. I didn't expect a wizard to get some mxe so I decided to try it again. This was after I took 2mg of alprazolam and repeated lines of k through out the day. I did not expect to mix k+xan and mxe in the first place, but in the end it became one of my very favorite combos. Something I wouldn't do again, but I truly think I was safe throughout the whole experience, and didn't feel the need to call emergency services. I kept track of my heart rate, it was at a normal level, and didn't alarm me. I agree, my judgement might've been a little out of hand, but I truthfully feel I was completely safe using all of these substances. I didn't experience any blackouts, just good feelings, kaleidoscopic hypnagogic hallucinations, weird dreams, and sedation. I'm open to judgment but try not to be so harsh ?