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jwh-073 risks

More personal anecdote; I do not find vapourised 018 to be at all irritating. Have been using it near daily for >6 months now with no negative effects other than a few times where I had too much and had a typical cannabimimetic overdose response.
 
^ You mean the screaming heebie-jeebies? =D

That's the severity of the anxiety episode I had after plugging too much of a JWH-018 emulsion


BTW what's the average smoked dose of 073 used by people as I seem to end up using what would be silly amounts if it were 018 (which does the trick at about 3-5mg smoked)
 
^ Yeah, the well known 'whitey' response =D .

One notable occasion was making JWH-018 infused bread, where I decided to be safe and eat just 1/3rd of the amount of bread a regular dose should be based on how much I added. Ended up being so stoned I couldn't eat, couldn't watch a movie, couldn't sleep, couldn't talk, couldn't move around much, etc. Subsequent examination of the bread after recovery revealed it was incompletely mixed - bastard bread maker machine ! I am SO thankful I decided to only try a smaller amount first 8o ..!
 
i soon have .5g of 073. there doesent seem to be lot of experience with this material so im exited. Is oral recommended?
 
DrBio said:
Is oral recommended?
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Not really. The results seem to be badly reproducible and you are wasting material, because you need higher doses.

In a thread some time ago FnB described how to apply this compound rectally but you better check your dose twice before trying this out... And have some downers at hand if the experiment goes a bit farer than expected (GBL, GHB, benzos).

- Murphy
 
I am interested in trying this and am seemingly unconcerned about the carcinogenic effects because I will be using a S&B Volcano Classic.

What is a typical dose for vaporization?
 
Volcano said:
I am interested in trying this and am seemingly unconcerned about the carcinogenic effects because I will be using a S&B Volcano Classic.

What is a typical dose for vaporization?
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Whoa, do you vaporize this in an actual marijuana vaporizer, or a methamphetamine/crack pipe "oil inhaler" type of vaporizer?
 
JWH-073 is pretty easy on the lungs even for an asmatic; and a nice mellow stone. Mixed good with 200mg provigil too:)
 
I just keep it in an "incense vial" in the freezer and it shows no degredation in months of it being there.
 
I accidentally did a very large dose earlier today, because I expected the onset to be a matter of seconds when smoked.

I smoked 3 or 4 4mg doses over maybe 5-6 minutes and was just feeling something very mild. I smoked a 6mg dose right after that. Maybe a minute later, I gave up in disappointment. I went to get a little drink, then walked back to my room so I could weigh a dose of mephedrone. It was right then that it hit me like a ton of bricks. It got even stronger over the next minute or two. I could not figure out what I was doing standing there.

I was very scared, because I was feeling strong bodily sensations. I stayed scared for maybe 10 minutes, fearing that I was suffering brain damage, possibly from a stroke. The fear then diminished. I also realized that I was feeling sound in my body. I also noticed that I could taste sound. I didn't realize the feeling was sound at first because I was just hearing the constant sound of the air conditioner. It became obvious that the feeling was sound when there was a change in sound, though there may be some other component of the physical feeling that isn't sound, but instead a feeling you'd get even in silence. But a big part of the feeling was definitely sound. It was really awesome with music.

My point here though is that it could take a few minutes to kick in. That is not something I expected from smoking it. The drugs I have smoked all kicked in in seconds, before today.

Overdosing due to redosing because of the delay time when smoked, and probably injecting, and maybe for snorting or plugging could be considered a risk for anyone who isn't prepared for it. Maybe this occurs with cannabis too. I still haven't tried weed so I don't know. If it is something that the two drugs share in common, then I would guess people with weed experience would probably know to wait.

I suppose it could be something that only I have experienced, with it kicking in in seconds for everyone else. If so, I have no idea why it tool 10 minutes or longer from my first dose and I guess at least a couple of minutes after the last redose for me to feel much. The time from when I was feeling little to the time when I reached the peak was less than the time from first hit to last hit. It was a very fast ride up. I'd say it hit significantly faster than even an IM injection of ketamine once I started feeling it.


I have no idea how harmful the smoke from this chemical might be. I can say that it doesn't feel harsh or unpleasant. Inhaling the smoke is something I can barely feel at all. That doesn't mean it isn't bad for you, it just doesn't feel like such a bad thing.
 
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Most people notice it takes a few minutes for the effects to kick in, every time. I always feel it in seconds though, like you had previous.
 
for me it's always around 3-5 minutes for onset

i feel your pain though

there have been plenty of times where i overdid it just a bit... or started back to smoke a 2nd time and on the way there it hit me...

the great thing about this stuff is even if you smoke too much, it goes away pretty quickly.
 
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