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amandmang

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a while ago my friend died R.I.P.<3 But the reason he died was because he was perscribed percoset and some sort of antidepressant and the mixture killed him.. now im just wanting to know how many perks do you think he had to have taken to have that happen? ive always been curious because i do myself like to get fucked up and i just get alittle nervous about it all.
 
amandmang said:
yeah thats what his parents said but he had to have taken alot of perksright?
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Yes, and likely mixed with alcohol or benzos. I did a little quick look on google and if anything antidepressants seem to reduce the affects of opiates.
 
what brand of antidepressant was it? maybe his meds didnt only do what you think they did. mixing opiates with antidepressants would be bad if that antidepressant was a power enough stimulant effect. some ppl also confuse benzos for antidepressants?

if looking at that angel dosent help, suggest looking up the reports of his autompsy but before figuring out what he took make sure you know exactly everything he was taking caz opiate mixs of any kind can end up bad and then theres the random stuff like certain antidepressants will end badly with excess antihistamines resulting in a few accidental overdoses.

just understant theres hardly a clear answer when a OD is involed, try finding out more about what he took, for some ppl OD level of one person isnt the same as it is for someone else.
 
Wow i would look into this

Ive always heard that its very hard to overdose on just oxycodone or hydrocodone alone because they are deprived from thebaine, and if you did overdose you would not likely have a painless death like you would from morphine or heroin.
 
habboz said:
Wow i would look into this

Ive always heard that its very hard to overdose on just oxycodone or hydrocodone alone because they are deprived from thebaine, and if you did overdose you would not likely have a painless death like you would from morphine or heroin.
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Oh and sorry about your friend <3

Ooops i meant to edit that onto my first post, sorry for double posting.
 
First of all I want to say I am very sorry about your loss, and I hope you are okay and may your friend R.I.P!

But it sounds a little fishy that the doctor would prescribe him two drugs that interact bad with each other. He must have taken something else with them. And even if he took a lot of percocet I think he would throw up before he just ODed even with a tolerance. Percocet is very hard to OD as far as I know!
 
who ever told u ur friend died from mixing an opiate and an SSRI, is probably lieing to u...no offense,... ive had friends who died from drugs and the family lies about how it happens so no1 talks about it.

he most likely just ODd on the opiates

cuz oxy can be mixed with an anti

i know tramadol, u cannot (from what i hear)
 
Ryan11adidas said:
Percocet is very hard to OD as far as I know!
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what kinda information is that?

percs just contain oxycodone

heroin addicts , most of them, enjoy oxycodone much better than H (diamorphine)

just cuz a roxie is 30mg, or a OC is 80mg, u can still take 8 percs to equal, or 16 percs to equal...

same drug, different pill
 
Opiates and certain anti-depressants that have a sedative quality to them make it a lot easier to OD on. TCAs are the most common to cause this. These have very strong antihistaminic action. Also antihistamines can cause a severe drop in blood pressure when a large dose of them (Regular TCA doses are very sedating(High antihistaminic afinity) in the beginning of treatment.) and a recreational dose of any opiate. This can result in a higher chance of respiratory arrest leading to death. I know his heart did not fail before he died, because anticholinergics tend to stimulate the heart and cause it to beat faster.
 
OP, you don't necessarily have to swallow a whole bottle of pills. combining things is more of a problem.
over the past 20+ years working as a RN in ICU and ER i have seen quite a few ODs. right now i live in n fla area with a population of only about 200-250,000 people. it ain't nothing like working at jackson in miami where i started as a new RN. anyway...
in the past 2-3 years ime with OD patients who have died the most common drugs found in toxicology tests are oxycodone, methadone, xanax, k-pins, soma, and alcohol. many of those patients actually had theraputic blood levels but the combination of drugs is actually the cause of death rather than a huge amount of one drug. that's the scariest thing to me... theraputic levels killed them.
i know i've taken the same combo in the past and am still here by some kinda dumb luck or divine intervention, whatever you believe in.
certainly there have been many patients who have had coke, weed, etc etc on board, i'm just saying the combination of oxy, 'done, xanax, soma is what i've seen most often implicated as cause of death by the docs.
for what it's worth...
-izzy
 
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izzy66 said:
OP, you don't necessarily have to swallow a whole bottle of pills. combining things is more of a problem.
over the past 20+ years working as a RN in ICU and ER i have seen quite a few ODs. right now i live in n fla area with a population of only about 200-250,000 people. it ain't nothing like working at jackson in miami where i started as a new RN. anyway...
in the past 2-3 years ime with OD patients who have died the most common drugs found in toxicology tests are oxycodone, methadone, xanax, k-pins, soma, and alcohol. many of those patients actually had theraputic blood levels but the combination of drugs is actually the cause of death rather than a huge amount of one drug. that's the scariest thing to me... theraputic levels killed them.
i know i've taken the same combo in the past and am still here by some kinda dumb luck or divine intervention, whatever you believe in.
certainly there have been many patients who have had coke, weed, etc etc on board, i'm just saying the combination of oxy, 'done, xanax, soma is what i've seen most often implicated as cause of death by the docs.
for what it's worth...
-izzy
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Is it mainly people who throw in 3 to 4 or more different drugs who end up OD'ing or taking a real large dose of 2 different drugs, Or can you actually OD on a low dose of 2 drugs at therapeutic levels?

It's hard for me to believe that if someone took 2 drugs at safe levels like say, 2mg of xanax + 5mg of lortab that something like that would be enough to kill them. It seems to me like the people who just way overdo it with 1-2 drugs, or start throwing in 3, 4 or 5 different things are the ones who put themselves in danger.

To the OP though, sorry for your loss. Hate to hear of that kind of thing happening.
 
Shouldn't a thread like this have a more useful title? A detailed discussion about dangerous drug interaction called "just wondering" is beyond useless to anyone.

You might as well just erase your posts, it's never going to help anyone without a descriptive subject line.

To the OP: ask a mod to change the title to something helpful and please keep this is mind in the future
 
thanks to everyone for replying, i was just curious cause i do like to get fucked up on pills alot and was on an anit depressant.. he couldve mixed the 3 with alcohol becuase he was a drinker.. but didnt reallly know what else to title it beuase i really was just wondering out of curiosty and for my own sake i guess cause alot of my friends have OD'd and i get nervous sometimes.

Rest in Peace Will!<3
 
Valley88 said:
Is it mainly people who throw in 3 to 4 or more different drugs who end up OD'ing or taking a real large dose of 2 different drugs, Or can you actually OD on a low dose of 2 drugs at therapeutic levels?

It's hard for me to believe that if someone took 2 drugs at safe levels like say, 2mg of xanax + 5mg of lortab that something like that would be enough to kill them. It seems to me like the people who just way overdo it with 1-2 drugs, or start throwing in 3, 4 or 5 different things are the ones who put themselves in danger.

To the OP though, sorry for your loss. Hate to hear of that kind of thing happening.
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yes, ime combinations of 3 or more drugs often topped off w/ some alcohol are def involved in most of the deaths. often these patients are asleep for 5, 6, 7 hours, the body is still metabolizing whatever they've taken. by the time they are brought to the hospital they're probably past their actual peak blood levels. it's a cumulative effect over a period of time. respiratory depression causes fluid to build up in the lungs and less oxygen gets into the blood, the heart slows and the brain becomes so oxygen starved it no longer tells the lungs to breathe and the heart to beat. these are not fast deaths.
if methadone is involved, people often don't respect how dangerous the long half life of 'dones can be and will keep redosing cuz they're not feeling w/e they're mistakenly expecting to feel in 30 minutes. several hours later the blood level is still increasing causing more respiratory depression and that domino effect of slow death happens.

i haven't ever kept statistics about patients i've worked w/ but i'd guess oxy, 'done, xanax, and soma have been involved in quite a few of the deaths. i'd say 2nd would be an opiate, usually oxy, with 2 or more benzos and alcohol.
very often family or their SO will say they heard the patient snoring loudly 2 or 3 hours before finding them dead. so please -please- if you hear someone really snoring and you know they took several diff pills hours earlier, please wake them up, keep them awake if you can and get them some medical help.

and you're correct valley88- 2mg of xanax and 5mg of hydrocodone isn't going to cause a problem for anyone unless they're allergic to something in them.
-izzy
 
izzy66 said:
yes, ime combinations of 3 or more drugs often topped off w/ some alcohol are def involved in most of the deaths. often these patients are asleep for 5, 6, 7 hours, the body is still metabolizing whatever they've taken. by the time they are brought to the hospital they're probably past their actual peak blood levels. it's a cumulative effect over a period of time. respiratory depression causes fluid to build up in the lungs and less oxygen gets into the blood, the heart slows and the brain becomes so oxygen starved it no longer tells the lungs to breathe and the heart to beat. these are not fast deaths.
if methadone is involved, people often don't respect how dangerous the long half life of 'dones can be and will keep redosing cuz they're not feeling w/e they're mistakenly expecting to feel in 30 minutes. several hours later the blood level is still increasing causing more respiratory depression and that domino effect of slow death happens.

i haven't ever kept statistics about patients i've worked w/ but i'd guess oxy, 'done, xanax, and soma have been involved in quite a few of the deaths. i'd say 2nd would be an opiate, usually oxy, with 2 or more benzos and alcohol.
very often family or their SO will say they heard the patient snoring loudly 2 or 3 hours before finding them dead. so please -please- if you hear someone really snoring and you know they took several diff pills hours earlier, please wake them up, keep them awake if you can and get them some medical help.

and you're correct valley88- 2mg of xanax and 5mg of hydrocodone isn't going to cause a problem for anyone unless they're allergic to something in them.
-izzy
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Yeah, that is sort of what I figured too. That's a pretty good explanation of things.

My brother is a paramedic (in a large city). He's fascinated by a lot of the stuff he sees and gets to treat but hates to talk about cases where OD's are involved, so I don't even ask him about that kinda stuff.
 
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