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just stocked up ! (RC combination questions)

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i went on a bit of spending spree buying RC's there! so now the wait.. anyway i'm looking for a rough first time dose for each of them and if you have any experience with them please share :)

so.. i just orderd 100mg of 5-ABP and 100mg of 6-ABP. 100mg of aMT, 2g of MPA (because its cheap as hell!) and a gram of my growing love "mexxy" =D

never taken any of the first four.. done some research before hand, but to be fair i just got carried away when ordering mex :/ got some milligram scales on there way here aswell lol.
what doses do you recomend for first time using ? anything there that youve found to be overpowering ? or just plain shit ? i know mpa is meth analouge so im really curious to how it will go down :)
 
Don't compine anything.

1x 100mg5-apb

1x 100mg 6-apb (similar/same experience)

2x midum 50mg aMT doses

and MPA has been reported shit unless with another (MDAI). But that combo could also be shit, never tried :)

Methoxetamine I can't help you, all I know is your tollerance will rise and rise and rise and SLOWLY drop...
 
so taking the 100mg's of abp's would be cool for one night ? after reading about the aMT i thot that start small would be the best idea as the trip sounds pritty full on. im going to slow down my mxe use! when i started using it 250mg's would last me a few trips.. now 2 trips, or maybe one fucked up day of being a spaceman !

i have high tollerance to other drugs e.g. weed, amphetamine, e (god knows what drug it is thoo), alcohal, coke.. so would this meen i would need more drugs e.g. 6-abp to get me up ?
 
Don't mix methoxetamine with any of the other chemicals. Nasty things happen to your physical and mental well-being that nobody really understands. I've heard 5-APB AND 6-APB mix well, but exercise caution. I'd say 100mg of each is as far as you'd want to push it. You may be disappointed with the MPA. You'll need to plug it to get the most out of it. Also watch out for chest pains and painful balls. MPA causes semen to thicken and this can be excruciating.
 
I have to agree with the above posters, don't combine any of those chems, the doses you have for the 5-apb and 6-apb will be perfect for one night of each, 6-apb is pretty strong at 100mg. I see you already have experience with MXE, but I would really not recommend mixing that with anything else either, especially as all the drugs you mentioned are pretty unknown. I don't have any experience with MPA but if you are going to do it then try it on it's own first before even considering adding something else to the mix.

Be careful, and read some of the big threads in PD and EADD to get some more detailed information on all of the chems you have stocked up on. There is a plethora of advice in them.
 
the bad effects of mpa have put me right off.. not to sure if i could handle being "stimulated" and put up with all sorts of pain :/ thanks for the heads up ! i could've seen a very embarrasing trip to the hospital with sore balls lol.. i dont plan on mixing the mxe with anything, i think its perfect the way it is and the way im using it suits me :)! i was interested in the abp's with the aMT, but as i'll have scales ill feel so much safer testing new things out.
for the abp's how long and how intense would a 50mg dose be for the first time ? i can handle and quite enjoy the intense side of things, as i was a mega pill freak in my early-er teens.

any books on RC's ?
 
I would check out the megathreads here on BL about those various RCs, wikipedia and the Erowid pages for them...RCs really are that new that there are not a lot of real print-on-paper books on them yet (besides, of course, PIHKAL and TIHKAL).
 
yeah i know no one knows much about them yet, gawni have a good read up on mpa to see wither its getting binned or not lol, also with the aMT heard it can give you bad headaches. apart from that, this order is sounding pritty fun :)
 
zigzag'er said:
yeah i know no one knows much about them yet, gawni have a good read up on mpa to see wither its getting binned or not lol, also with the aMT heard it can give you bad headaches. apart from that, this order is sounding pritty fun :)
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I've always found aMT rather boring in my experience. You will enjoy the 6-APB and the 5-APB immensely though :)
 
Yeah be careful with that 6-apb.. I ended up getting 2 grams and kept redosing it and stayed up for like 5 days in a row... and I know it was legitimate 6-apb the tan powder it wasn't one of those cases where I took a little bit and was up for 5 days.. I just kept taking doses after doses for 5 days straight and it kept me up.. I actually wen through the whole 2 grams in 2 weeks ... probably the stupidest drug binge I've ever been on... I won't be getting that stuff again.. even though I loved it.. I was just way to irresponsible on it and especially so knowing there isn't much information on it's toxicology and long term side effects..
 
Just goes to show personal preferences - I love aMT (watch for nausea tho) and I really like MPA plugged as a fairly gentle but fun stim.. chasing it doesn't feel very healthy for the lungs I must say, but this is my own subjective experience.

Essentially, remember you are flying blind here with all these new chems. I'd do one at a time, low doses (ideally allergy test first) and read up on all the useful info found in the megathreads in Psychedelic Drugs and EADD as Mugz suggested (would link you up but search engine not working for me at the mo) and have a look through the Erowid experience vaults and their dosing suggestions too.

Going to leave this open for a while in case anyone has anymore first hand experience or safety tips, then close it as I don't really want it turning into endless speculation about combinations and which drugs are best. You're far better off reading the wealth of experiences in PD and EADD, zigzag'er :)
 
Have you tried methylone? I like it. I find it quite pleasant; not too stimulating; a mild-moderate comedown; a moderate increase in heart rate (compared to a significant increase when I tweak or go skiing). The high - in my opinion - is quite similar (but not quite as good or intense) to mdma.
 
I think that this thread may be better suited for Psychedelic Drugs, since all of the drugs that have been mentioned other than MPA have lots of information about them in the PD forum.

If the mods there think that it is too basic for the PD forum then feel free to send it back, I don't have a massive problem with it being here, I just think that the responses will be better from people that frequently visit a forum that has lots of informaton on these drugs.
 
Sometimes the moderators here are a little behind on the dosing info I think...

100mg is not a strong dose of either 6 or 5apb by any stretch. I'd imagine 100/100 would mix nicely.

None of those chems besides the two apb's are very synergistic, though.
 
I disagree with you assessment. a mix of 100 / 100 has had me throwing up. personally I like to avoid throwing up if I can even if it is throwing up in a good way.
 
The last time I did 6-APB I had two pellets, and the first one was very intense, I did redose with the second one but not until a few hours in, it was still very intense, taking 200mg in one go I would imagine to be quite overwhelming.
 
i guess it's just another instance of YMMV - but I've taken 100mg of 6 and found it to be quite weak, and talk to quite a few people that take upwards of 200mg per go.

I should have corrected and said, 100mg isn't necessarily a strong dose :P
 
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i was interested in the abp's with the aMT, but as i'll have scales ill feel so much safer testing new things out.
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i wouldnt just go mixing amt with relatively untested rc's. i may be wrong, but im fairly certain it has MAOI properites and mixing with shit that affects god knows what specifically in your brain could certainly put you in harm's way.
i alsogree w the above posters that you should go mixing any of these either as they are all pretty new and untested.

if youre interested in the art of concoctions and synergy through combinations might i suggest you start with some more well known stuff- say acid and molly or dmt and ketamine,etc.

its cool and respected that you are interested in being part of pioineering new substances for your own personal amusement and to help pave the path of knowledge and experience for the curious minds amongst us, but each of these on their own should be new and exciting to you, take your time bro. theres hundreds more to try and by the time you try all of them, if youre still interested in research, they'll most likely be hundreds more to try.

Have fun and be safe! :)
 
I must be odd - I quite like MPA, but I tend to use it for a day-to-day stimulant (at lower doses), so haven't noticed any real side effects (beyond say minor irritability or paranoia if feeling particularly stressed).
 
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