Opioids Just prescribed Opana ER, I have questions - Help!

[BeachBum4u]

I need some help here. I used to be prescribed Oxycontins for my chronic neck pain but had to switch doctors/facilities and they don't prescribe the drug Oxycontin. So, they have me on Opana ER and I've tried to educate myself on these things. Everybody keeps talking about the coating, which they scrap off. Just like the old OC Oxys. However, when I put one in my mouth to take, it dissolves real fast. Nothing like my OP Oxys, feels like there is no release coating on it at all. For the record, my pills are 40mg and yellow. So, my question is - Do these things have a coating that needs to come off and can they be snorted? I know the new OP's can't be without turning them in to a jelly mass.

One other question I have is this; I was on 80mg Oxycontin and I took 2 twice a day (for the past 4-5 years). Now with the Opana, I'm taking 40mg 2 pills twice a day. How much am I going feel the withdrawal effects? I have a funny feeling the translation isn't even 50% of what I was taking and if that's true, I'm not going to be a happy camper pretty soon.

Thanks in advance and all info that can help me would be greatly appreciated!

 

[NOLA]

They can be snorted but use tiny lines and sniff slowly. ANY amount of moisture activates the timerx and will cause it to turn to goo and trap the oxymorphone. That includes if it hits the back of your throat.

My two cents: go read "I hate myself and I want to die" that I just posted in the dark side forum. I didnt specifically mention Opana as the opiate that helped me cope with bipolar/OCD but it will give you an indication of where Im at right now mentally. Abusing opana is what pushed me from a severely depressed dude taking opiates to a dude who is trying desperately not to blow his head off before Sunday morning. If you havent abused opana in the past please please dont now. Its not about will power. I was an Army officer and Cavalry troop leader. I had the will power to go days without food, days wihtout sleep and the will power to NOT abuse my opana ER and Dilaudid IR scripts for a year before I got curious and snorted an opana. Ill stop with the warnings now but willpower will only get you so far and, for me at least, no amount of will power on earth can get you back to point A from point B once youve made that transition. I now shoot opana daily, shoot heroin daily (just started slamming H but had been smoking it to create gaps in my opana use to fill in between opana binges) and am a miserable fuck.

Opana will ruin every other opiate on earth. 100mg oxy couldnt even stave off withdrawals after I got so far ino the opanas let alone give me a buzz. Had never used needles unitil snorting opana wasnt good enough anymore. My options opiate wise are now opana and heroin. Dont get to that place if you dont have to. Take your meds as prescribed. With opana its not the same as snorting your oxycontins. Its so much better youll never swallow one again. Then a month later youll be in the methadone clinic, on heroin, or doing copious amounts of opana that cant be reversed.

Take it for what its worth but I dont regret using and abusing opiates....except Opana. It literally ruined opiates for me and has pretty much ruined my life. I realize your going to do what your going to do but I dont want anyone to end up where i am and opana put me in a place oxycontin couldnt no matter the dose. Just be careful....

 

[BeachBum4u]

Thanks for your reply. You say it's stronger than Oxy's but all the conversion charts I see, say that's it only 50% the strength of Oxy's. In other words, since I used to take 320mg of Oxy, I'd need 640 of Opana to have an equivalent dose. As write this, that sounds crazy but unless I read something wrong, that's what it says. For the record, I didn't snort the Oxy's and didn't abuse them whatsoever and I don't plan on ever taking more than I'm prescribed of the Opana. It just seems like a way of possibly getting better pain relief if I'm at the place physically. If not, I take them orally.

I appreciate your words of warning and since I've been on heavy narcotics for the past 15 years for chronic neck pain, I always tread lightly and treat these drugs with the respect they deserve.

 

[NOLA]

Depends on ROA. Opana oral bioavail is around 10%. Oxy closer to 65%. Nasal Opana around 45%, oxy around 55%. Yes, orally you need more opana than oxycontin. If you start snorting them they flop the other way at a 4:1 ratio. No snort = no problems. Snort = bliss. For me the high of opana is a hell of a lot more sedating, noddy etc. while oxycontin would keep me up all night. I prefer the nod for personal reasons and therefore dove right in. Opana is a lot harder, for me and anyone Ive encountered, to walk away from. But for what its worth I took opana and dilaudid for a full year as prescribed and had no problems. Only later did I abuse oxycontin, have my first actual addiction and go on methadone. Then I went to chipping on oxycontin again on the weekends and got a 20mg opana when no oxyc was avaialble. I fell in love in 20mg and didnt go back. Within 6 months I was pretty much out of it ALL the time on opana and went back to methadone a second time. Now Im working on getting clean off opana that I had to supplement with a gram of heroin a day due to supply issues. Its serious shit if you let it go too far....

 

[Vertical]

I thought that Opana was 2.5 times Stronger that Oxy. That's what I always heard and when I took(Snorted) them I only needed 10mg to get high but when taking oxy I took around 30 at the least to get a good buzz. Now taking them orally I'm not sure if it reverses or not. I do remember taking 20mg swallowing and it did nothing what so ever.. not even get rid of my head ache. I really do wish that there was a Stash of Real OC Somewhere... Just the thought gives me a boner

 

[BeachBum4u]

Thanks guys for the replies~! From what I can tell, I tend to agree with you Nola with regards to snorting. I am prescribed four 40mg Opana ER daily and Oxycodone, four 15mg daily to fill in the gaps. I have found that if I take two and sometimes one in the morning with my coffee and yogurt, I'm pretty good until mid to late afternoon. Then near the end of work or just after, I'll snort one Opana and maybe two Oxy's. Then closer to dinner, I'll repeat what I snorted a couple hours earlier. I pretty much good until bedtime at that rate. I prefer the combination approach and I do think I can stretch out the meds better this way. I know my doc would throw a tizzy fit if he knew but... I know with the Oxy OP's I used to take (still have five left), I would Jones earlier in the afternoon for more meds and in the late afternoon and evening, I'd do much more. I'd being counting my pills every month and I really hated living like that.

Personally, I don't get the buzzy feeling from the Opana's as I did with the Oxy's, but as for pain relief I think life with Opana might just be tolerable. I originally thought I'd be going through withdrawals in a bad way when the doctor told me what he was switching me to and the dosage he'd be prescribing. Fortunately, looks like my fears will turn out to be unfounded in reality. Now, it's only been one week but I am cautiously optimistic. I go back to the doctor's office tomorrow to do a prescription review to see how things are going. I'll be telling them what I just wrote and my thought is to continue what we're doing for a month this time and check back.

Thanks again everybody and I'm truly happy I literally stumbled onto this site. Very informative things are discussed that just aren't anywhere else I've been. Touché!

 

[BeachBum4u]

So.....I just went back to the doctor for a re-check after one week, having changed medications and all (from Oxycontin to Opana ER). I was able to fill the first prescription for 28 pills but now I go back and nada! I've called almost 10 pharmacies and no one has it in stock and they're being told the suppliers are out too. I actually thought I was going to make this switch without too much drama (i.e. withdrawals) and now I have to go back to square one. I'm so dissapointed.

If anyone has any grand ideas, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!

 

[flyonth3wall]

Surely a pharmacy over there can arrange a shipment/fedex/ups etc from somewhere else that has in stock? I'm in the UK and if I ever go to my usual pharmacy to get my OC 40's ( we still use OC here and not OP ) and Fentanyl Patches they are always in stock pretty much. If not they say to give them 24hrs and I can pick them up. I find that pathetic that they cannot somehow arrange your prescription for you. Good luck whatever anyway man, hope you sort something soon.

 

[flyonth3wall]

By the way, maybe you calling them asking if they have a controlled narcotic in stock isn't a great idea. I don't mean that to offend you at all, but basically pharmacies nowadays do not like to give out that type of info over the phone due to robberies etc. And some just do not give out that info to the general public over the phone. If you were to ask your Dr to phone them you would probably have a lot more luck.. Just an idea

 

[Drifter74]

Opana shortage?

When I was at my pain DR a couple of weeks ago we discussed trying Opana. He said he had no problem prescribing it however his office was recently told by their pharmaceutical reps not to script it to anyone right now because of a severe shortage. He's a great Dr. and we have a wonderful relationship so I really had no reason to doubt him but of course I took it with a grain of salt.

After reading this though I'm thinking he really wasn't BS'n me.

As for calling around and asking for it, like Flyonth3wall said you can bet 50-75% of the places you called would never tell you the truth regardless.

So.....I just went back to the doctor for a re-check after one week, having changed medications and all (from Oxycontin to Opana ER). I was able to fill the first prescription for 28 pills but now I go back and nada! I've called almost 10 pharmacies and no one has it in stock and they're being told the suppliers are out too. I actually thought I was going to make this switch without too much drama (i.e. withdrawals) and now I have to go back to square one. I'm so dissapointed.

If anyone has any grand ideas, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!

 

[BeachBum4u]

Thanks again for the replies! Yes, the shortage is for real due to the fact that the manufacturer shut down the facility that makes the stuff. I'd be surprised if there's only one of them but maybe. As for calling pharmacies; I've been doing this a long time and I always lead with my personal info, name, birthdate etc. I tell them (usually the case) that I'm in their system if they want to check. About a third do and the others, I assume, figure if I'm that upfront I must be legit. This past one, the pharmacy that actually had what I needed, amen - asked who the prescribing doctor was and I told them the facility name as well as his name. They knew who he was and knew this was something he'd prescribe and I got a straight answer. Don't get me wrong, I have gotten the runaround before but these days it seems less and less.

Now, after gettting these 120 pills after checking with 14 pharmacies, I doubt there's many left in the state! I plan on calling the office tomorrow and telling them I may need a change of medication due to this shortage problem. At least until the company gets their act together. Hang in there everyone!

 

[served00]

As said earlier. With Opana ER, to get much better effects, you must insufflate it. Bioavailability is drastically increased versus taking it orally. And do it by small lines while snorting a little water into whatever nostril you used to snort it, and take your time. Dont snort a bunch at once, it seems everytime I do that, I get less effects, prob bc it all gets clogged up in my nose and doesnt all dissolve effectivally.

Take the coating off by sucking on it or just scraping it, snort 2-3 inch lines every 5-10 minutes while snorting a little tiny bit of water in between each line. Insufflated oxymorphone is one of the best opiate highs out there. I prefer it over IV heroin

 

[Roush]

Little Tip, Take a Pipe/hose clamp.. Use the sharper edge to grind the pill down if your going IN.. It'll grind the coating you'll waste alot less pill.. I'm not sure if someone else has mentioned it.. But that's how all the burb kids do it round here.

 

[SUB SHOOTER 2010]

Your mad you got prescribed opana??? Thats the new oxycontin. It beats the hell out of any other pain med by far. Most people I know would rather do opana than heroin!! You have no idea how many people would switch their oxy scripts with you in a heartbeat. I dunno where you read about opana being weaker than oxy but they are definitely in the minority for sure. Maybe they just meant orally. Do some more research and you will see that you have a bottle full of gold dude almost literally.

 

[joey40opana]

Wow i wish I could be prescribed to OPANA.
How does one get qualified for chronic pain LOL

 

[BeachBum4u]

Wow i wish I could be prescribed to OPANA.
How does one get qualified for chronic pain LOL

I know you aren’t really serious! Here's what I did to get "qualified" to be prescribed Opana ER. Got in a horrific accident when I was 17 where I had terrible whiplash which actually broke my driver's seat. That accident has come back to bite me once I reached 40. Then I had a motorcycle accident in 1995 which caused me to need shoulder surgery. My neck took a beating bouncing off the pavement over my left shoulder. Finally, and worse of all, I was driving a truck full of firewood with a co-worker on a two lane road. It was around 10-11:00am and I saw a driver coming towards me coming towards my lane. My first thought is that he was drunk but it was so early. As we approached each other, I figured he'd correct the problem and get in his lane but nooooo. He kept coming towards me and at the last second I had to turn the wheel of the truck hard to the right and ditch it. He ended up clipping the left front headlight and slid along the side of the truck until he hit the bed which juts out 4-6 inches. Because I'd been slowing down as he can at us, the truck behind me was on my ass and he got hit head on but luckily the car had slowly down considerably. The two drivers of the truck behind me were pretty much unhurt.

Back to me, our truck barely missed hitting a telephone pole head on. That was pure luck because I didn't have time to gauge the guy coming at me and hoping he'd get over and me bailing at the last minute. Our truck flipped on its side and slid about 100 yards and once again, my neck snapped pretty good this time too. For the record, I could never find out what was up with the other driver but he was really messed up. The entire front end of his car was missing, only some of the frame remained. He was strapped into the car, no door, no front end, nothing around him whatsoever. He's unconscious and looks dead. I never saw him come to before the trauma helicopter showed up. This was a 17 year old boy who ended up a quadriplegic due to this accident. What a crying shame!!

So, if you really want to get prescribed Opana ER, try two or three severe auto accidents and a history of migraines since I was a teenager and you're probably in luck. Honestly, is it really worth it? I in my mid-50's and my neck is a mess and the long-term prognosis is more of the same and continued deterioration. Would you really sign up for all this just to get some medicine? If your answer is yes, I think you may very well have some serious issues. Anyway, that's my story in a nutshell. Good Luck to All!

 

[joey40opana]

WOW..speechless, glad to hear you are ok.
OK i guess there is always the illegal route

 

[greeneyedgal]

i have the number for endo pharm and according to them they should be back on track with the 20's 30's the mid of feb and the 40's by the end of feb however,they did give me a number that u can call to find a pharmacy nearest to u that has these available,its 1-888-222-9845 and for more info on the opanas u can call 1-800-462-3636 and if by chance u are out of ur meds or close to out they will help u out by sending ur script to u,they did this for my aunt who explained to them that she had been on opana for 5 years straight and they actually sent the script to her from the ones they had in warehouse,i will say that i also agree about the snorting,it has totally ruined my life for the last couple years,don't wish it on no one and i also will say,the withdrawal from opana is to me 50 times worse than any other opiod,i have been on about all kinds and this is the worse,so good luck to all and i hope the hell the shortage truly is coming to a head,those of us who has to get a new pa for every new drug we take this truly sux cause there is no drup as valuable on the market to the ones who depend on it to live!

 

[greeneyedgal]

* sry bout that meant to say in last sentence,there is no drug on the market as valuable,esp to the ones who depend on it to live

 

[Oneinky]

Question

i have the number for endo pharm and according to them they should be back on track with the 20's 30's the mid of feb and the 40's by the end of feb however,they did give me a number that u can call to find a pharmacy nearest to u that has these available,its 1-888-222-9845 and for more info on the opanas u can call 1-800-462-3636 and if by chance u are out of ur meds or close to out they will help u out by sending ur script to u,they did this for my aunt who explained to them that she had been on opana for 5 years straight and they actually sent the script to her from the ones they had in warehouse,i will say that i also agree about the snorting,it has totally ruined my life for the last couple years,don't wish it on no one and i also will say,the withdrawal from opana is to me 50 times worse than any other opiod,i have been on about all kinds and this is the worse,so good luck to all and i hope the hell the shortage truly is coming to a head,those of us who has to get a new pa for every new drug we take this truly sux cause there is no drup as valuable on the market to the ones who depend on it to live!

Ok I don't know how this works but, I want to know when they told you this info at Endo? I'm on the patient assistance program and just sent back my RX and said they are out and no clue when they will be back in stock! I'm scared to death! I take them as prescribed (no crushing, chewing, etc) genuinely in pain from a car accident years back! They won't give me a date when I call. Please any details would be appreciated!