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Jobseeker's Allowance Megathread ver. The Jeremy Kyle Fan Club

@Foolsgold, did you manage to get through on the phone number that I posted. Pretty sure that is the number you need to call for benefit enquiries etc.
Hope it helped mate.
 
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Ugh. Fukkin ATOS. Just had to go through yet another round of filling in forms and waiting for appointment. What is their fukkin problem? Even the local GPs here are sick of the cunts. Not to mention being almightily pissed off at having their diagnoses constantly questioned and downright disbelieved. ATOS "doctors" struggle to tell the difference betwixt arseholes and elbows let alone be capable of actually carrying out a medical. What's the percentage that are overturned when appealed? 70-odd percent from memory. Disgusting waste of that taxpayers' money the tabloids are always banging on about. Since ATOS got involved I'd bet both of Spade's balls that it's costine the country a shitload more than it did when your GP's word (and/or that of a specialist or consultant - I have the lot and so do most, I'd imagine) isn't considered valid :\
 
I only get an extra £20 or so on the sick anyway. I'm squashed between a rock and a hard place holding on to my house by a thread, periodically seriously loosing the plot but being pressurised to get back to normal 9-5 work because it will ' do me good'. I'm just wondering what the look on my potential employers face will be like when I say 'Sorry i'm late I gave birth to another unicorn, whilst fending off alien body snatcher clones, and grieving the abduction of my entire family by neo Assyrian slave traders.
 
The whole lot, lumped into one?
Cause there's a whole lot of sections that includes.

Pensions, DLA, JSA, ESA .. the categories are pretty much self explanatory and describe the specific needs almost on their own

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Saying 'on the sick' if youre claiming ESA (which is something people can claim when they're too ill to work) is pretty innocuous as statements go and a perfectly legit term to use if that's what they prefer to.

It's a subjective view, and a person shouldn't need to have to reflect or acknowledge everybody else's reasons or needs for claiming, when stating and expressing their own circumstances. Just because they don't doesn't mean that theyre implying other categories of claimants don't exist or aren't important

You're entitled to be annoyed by the words if you don't like the description, but not really entitled to chastise or be annoyed at someone for expressing their situation or what theyre claiming, in their own way/language.

It wasn't offensive in any way
 
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I loose track of the terms that the dss or dhss use for benefits. With each new administration there seems to be new jargon and its hard to keep up.. probably even for the employees.

I've always known incapacity to work as either incapacity benefit or sickness benefit - colloquially 'the sick'.

Obviously there are people who are temporarily unable to work due to sickness and those with a chronic illness. Granted the term isn't applicaple to both . I wasn't trying to be offensive at all. Believe me I empathise with anyone out of work for whatever reasons and want to support rather than denigrate those groups.

Peace :)
 
When I'm on ESA (or previous equivalents) I say I'm 'on the sick'. When I've been on JSA (or previous equivalents) I call myself a 'dolebludger/dolescrounger'. Neither phrase is necessarily factually accurate but people know what you mean when you say it. I know some folk get upset about the 'dolebludger/dolecsrounger' tag and can't say I blame 'em - it's obviously used derogatorily by many (tabloids especially) - but has never bothered me cos I know what I am and what I am not and don't give much of a toss what other people assume. Life's too short to expend actual effort to not be offended. Far easier to just not be offended.
 
Have you have episodes that you might be genuinely unfit for work though? Times perhaps that you haven't even been operating in this realm perhaps for example not operating in any conventional time zone lol?
 
It's not just you that can't submit edits, NE - still a few bugs need debuggering since the server upgrade t'other day. I'm really missing my edit button :!

And yes, of course I've had episodes when I'm genuinely unfit to work, NE. I have to go to regular medicals same as everybody else on ESA. Believe me if they could find a way to convince themselves I was fit for work they absolutely would. I'm not doing too badly at the moment (relatively speaking) but have been known to have rather extensive periods of excessive wibblywobbliness of one sort or another. DIstinct lack of unicorns and Assyrian slave traders though :(
 
You wouldn't want the Assyrian shit believe me. I believe some of us experience these visions or states as part of the human condition. Its just not part of the 'normal' state. We enter them then return and are grounded again. I don't think its illness in many cases its pioneering yet we are penalised. But it has always been thus.

Re the edit button: Arghh its like a safety net. I write a ramble then have to go back probably 20 times to punctuate or take out random words because i rush stuff. Perhaps it'll teach me to slow down though. Even so... oh how i mourn you ed. :(
 
Ed should be back with us soon enough... at least I bloody hope so 8o

And I tend to agree with your opinion of "visionary states". Can kinda see how it makes work (and indeed "normal life" in general) a tad tricksy for a while though. 'Incapacitated' would perhaps be nearer the mark than 'sick'. At least as far as terminology goes - dunno 'bout Incapacity Benefit itself cos I don't think I've ever qualified. Or never applied. One or t'other. Quite possibly both.
 
NightsEpiphany said:
You wouldn't want the Assyrian shit believe me. I believe some of us experience these visions or states as part of the human condition. Its just not part of the 'normal' state. We enter them then return and are grounded again. I don't think its illness in many cases its pioneering yet we are penalised. But it has always been thus.

Re the edit button: Arghh its like a safety net. I write a ramble then have to go back probably 20 times to punctuate or take out random words because i rush stuff. Perhaps it'll teach me to slow down though. Even so... oh how i mourn you ed. :(
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I know the exact feeling - temporary solution, right click edit and open in new tab.
 
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