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Jobseeker's Allowance Megathread ver. The Jeremy Kyle Fan Club

Was at a family wedding on Thursday, at this fancy big castle now turned into a hotel type placey and hosts weddings etc. £140 minimum a night for a room, most folk were either going home at night or staying the the nearbye travel lodge at £20 a night. Have an aunty and uncle, dole scroungers all their lives have never worked a day, all the excuses under the sun not to and claiming every benefit they can get. All the folk who work for a living couldn't afford to stay yet these 2 were staying the night. The whole family were bemused and quite frankly pissed off that these two could afford it whilst no one else could

Maybe it does pay to be on the dole. :D
 
^^

Are you sure he isn't a bank robber in his spare time? :)

Unemployed to be told 'move to parts of the country where there are jobs'

The coalition Government is drawing up controversial plans to relocate the unemployed to areas of the country where there are jobs, it has emerged.
Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith said he would be bringing forward proposals to make the workforce "more mobile".

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-Move-parts-country-jobs.html#ixzz0s1wAdfPC
 
Yeah I saw that story reported on the BBC site. I can't believe anyone can say this proposal is too draconian.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10426714.stm

"But where work was available some 10 or 15 miles away from where someone lived, people would need support to take advantage of the opportunity."

Am I the only one who thinks that 10-15 miles is not very far whatsofuckingever to expect people to travel to work? I used to commute 50 miles each way, daily. I'm looking for a new job right now and I'm looking anywhere from Newcastle to Leeds. Even by public transport you can't claim 15 miles is too far to travel to work.

I was talking to my girlfriend about this yesterday. She's from Singapore and they have virtually no state benefit system there. They have a disability living allowance equivalent but that's about all. If you don't work you don't eat. Strangely, everyone chooses to work...

Their taxes are some of the lowest in the developed world (the very top earners only pay 20%) and the government has an annual budget surplus, compared to our ~£150 billion deficit. That kinda negates the "well you work and pay taxes so you should have something to fall back on" argument, too. I'd much rather pay 5% income tax while I was working and save the surplus over paying 25%+ to fall back on if I ever needed to.

It's almost a chicken and egg situation; which came first, benefits or benefit scroungers? An originally well intended and laudable idea to give everyone in the country a financial safety net immediately ends up exploited and there's no going back. If the system was never introduced there would still be just as many people with the mentality of preferring to do fuck all -- that's part of human nature -- it just wouldn't be an option.

Not sure where I'm going with this now. I'm by no means suggesting we should scrap benefits altogether, just challenging the preconception that state unemployment benefit is essential or that it should necessarily be an absolute right...
 
I think I will write down another imaginary road trip of 200 miles in my logbook today.
 
I forgot that I have to sign on tomorrow, this weekly malarky is a load of pish.
 
I used to commute about 80 miles per day. This was fine because I had a car, earned a decent wage, and was doing it for a limited period of time.

If, however, I was earning minimum wage and having to make a 15 mile commute on "public" transport, I might question it. Public transport is no longer publicly owned, and tends to be quite expensive in comparison to other countries.

The devil is always in the details with these things: a ten mile journey in one district might be as simple as hopping on a direct bus with a weekly ticket. In other districts, a ten mile journey might require multiple buses or different modes of transport with different providers - making the journey both long and uneconomical. These details will inevitably be missed.
 
tranceaddict84 said:
I was talking to my girlfriend about this yesterday. She's from Singapore and they have virtually no state benefit system there. They have a disability living allowance equivalent but that's about all. If you don't work you don't eat. Strangely, everyone chooses to work...
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Or sell their 8 year old daughters to rich western paedophiles.

Strangely, we don't tend to get people selling their daughters in the UK, thank god for benefits eh? ;)
 
Wow, way to go with the ignorant stereotype! Surprised you missed the bit about eating dogs... 8)

Shows how piss thin your arguments are when you have to resort to comments like that.
 
Izzy is pro lazy scrounger wanker yet against hard working Polish immigrant go figure =D.
 
Maybe true, I was objecting more to the application of one stereotype to the whole of south east Asia. Singapore is easily comparable to London as a developed, modern, cosmopolitan city, and London itself is head and shoulders above most of the rest of the UK.

Eating dogs is another one that gets thrown around indiscriminately regarding the entire area too. Do the Koreans even still eat dog by the way?

(massively off-topic)
 
Someone once asked me why the Koreans don't eat cats too! I told them it was because cat-meat is all stringy and greasy. You can't even curry it very succesfully.
 
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