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Jail/Prison

blistrash said:
footloose, your going to have to come up with somet better than "am i joking".

if you cant tell by now... you need a wake up.

If you can't tell by now.. you need a wake up. Preferably by being slapped in the face with a book about federal sentencing guidelines. Have you ever heard of mandatory minimum sentences or the prison sentence disparity of Crack vs. Cocaine? The fact that drug use is common with all humans regardless of race, yet the race ratio of non violent drug offenders in prison is 47% black, 23% mexican, and 24% white?
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/racepris.txt

why are there so many more black people in prison than mexicans and whites despite the fact that our population contains many more mexicans and whites?
Obviously there isn't only one cause, but to deny entrenched social racism and prejudice isn't a major factor is idiotic.

I don't have a problem with ignorant people most of the time. Hell, i'm ignorant about lots of things no doubt. Its when they choose to be ignorant that gets me - then they are just fuckin stupid, much like yourself.
 
shmacky said:
I was incarcerated in Mansfield, Louisiana-USA. I was the only "white" (my skin's more of a peach color) person in there. I got treated like shit by the guards and police, but treated like treasure from the reporters. I was in the paper for like a week straight and they even had my impounded car in their little town parade. The "black" (their skin's more of a dark brown color) people I was in with told me I was fucked because I'm from up north (Chicago, IL-USA). People have all sorts of reasons for discriminating.


thats right. so what do you do ?

you get on with your fucking life, thats what you do.
 
an interesting stat, more whites then mexicans in jail ?

i guess there must be more latino judges than of any other race then ? 8)

oh, and if you were smart, you would do powder instead of rock, you would get a lighter sentence.

and if you were really,really smart, you wouldnt fucking do drugs at allnow, would you ?

bottom line. racism exists in your life if YOU want it to. it takes no longer to see the good then it does the bad in this word, so if you let hat bad enter your life then all the bad that does you harm is of YOUR doing. so if you choose to blame everything else for your situation, you can live in the gutter and end up in jail for life. tough shit. no fuckin tears for you, fella...

im half irish half latin, born australian and raised until my teen years in the poorest hardest part of london. so i copped all sorts of shit from all ends.

when i moved back to oz, i was see as a euro, which wasnt popular, so i was given it for that.

so what did i do ? i focused on what i had to do to get good grades, finish my ed, and get me into a good job.

on top of that, i had a violent stepfather, so home life wasnt that good either.


so what do you do, go down with the ship, or swim? its all to do with your attitude. some people are just mentally weak.
 
^^Ahhhhhhh. Haaha. word. I get it now.

I was almost getting slightly pissed at the dumb shit you were saying, then i realized youre Australian which would explain your views.

Just like I aint qualified to talk about social conditions in australia from the perspective of someone who REALLY knows....you cant say shit about america. you aint got a clue. you dont know how it works here, you dont know the culture here, you dont know shit about the disparities in sentencing, discrimination in housing, government-sponsored poverty, or none of that shit. like i said before the shit were talkin about with prisons may be similar to other places, but aint nowhere like here when it comes to the truly twisted and skewed 'balance' and the roles people are playin

you may understand how it is where you live, but dont be telling ANYONE here from the US who is speaking from what they know from experience and living in the culture their whole life what they are right or wrong about, cuz you may think you know from TV or this site, or your country, or what the hell ever, but you dont really know shit about any of this when it comes down to it.

go head, keep registering new usernames and getting banned repeatedly just to say ignorant shit in this thread. :|

its so far from the original topic now anyways but i guess that was unavoidable
 
Oh, and heeeeeeere ya go!

For anyone who didnt read it in DITM?

Pot Hottie Breathes Freedom

March 22, 2006 -- The so-called "Pot Princess" got a fairy-tale ending in Manhattan Supreme Court yesterday, where she was sentenced to five years' probation for dealing drugs on and around the NYU campus.

Julia Diaco, 20, was officially slapped on the wrist after her lawyer told Justice Charles Solomon that, as per the deal she'd worked out with prosecutors, she'd successfully completed her drug rehab and education program.

Asked if she wanted to say anything before her sentencing, Diaco - dressed in a dark, pinstriped skirt suit with knee-high stiletto-heeled boots - whispered, "No."

Her lawyer, Paul Schechtman, told the judge his client had taken "a long journey and a successful one."

Diaco - who had cracked wise to reporters after her arrest in 2004 - declined comment as she left court. Schechtman said, "She's a very different person than she was 18 months ago, and she has a bright future ahead of her."

Diaco was facing up to 25 years in prison had she been convicted of the top charges against her at trial.

Prosecutors apparently had a strong case against her - including videotape of her selling marijuana, magic mushrooms, LSD and cocaine to undercover officers.

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While she was selling small amounts, she was also dealing on a regular basis, using her NYU dorm as her "base of operations," prosecutors said.

Prosecutors said she dealt to undercover officers eight times, with her biggest deal $650 worth of cocaine, and would ply her wares on and around the NYU campus, including Washington Square Park.

When she was arrested, she was carrying several ounces of marijuana and a scale.

The case was surprising because the petite Diaco didn't need the money - she's the daughter of a millionaire builder and grew up in a castle-like mansion in tony Rumson, N.J.

Diaco pleaded guilty to drug possession and sale charges in 2004, but was allowed to withdraw that plea and plead guilty to lesser versions of those charges yesterday after successfully completing her drug rehab program and passing her drug tests.

She now attends a community college in New Jersey.

News of the deal frustrated Anthony Papa, 51, who, like Diaco, was once a first-time, non-violent offender. Instead of probation, he was sentenced to 15 years to life in prison for delivering four ounces of cocaine for a police informant to an undercover cop for a $500 fee.

The owner of a struggling auto repair business in The Bronx, Papa was desperate for cash and couldn't afford a pricey lawyer.

"I get angry with a case like this because the laws are not applied equally. Because she had money and the right lawyers, she didn't go to jail. Others should have that same opportunity," he said. "All people should be treated like this woman - with compassion."






Nope, no sentencing disparities by class or race. Everyone is treated fairly. 8(
 
>>It is important to note that citizens of a democracy are responsible for their governments. People seem to forget that their government is supposed to represent them.>>

Our "democracy" is of course democracy in name only. We are not represented.

ebola
 
diaco... mmm... that sounds italian to me. not EXACTLY white if you wanna split hairs.

now by your own admission lacey, you can see that the disparity came from money, not colour.

and sorry, no, i dont consider myself to be an australian lacey. i was raise in london, hold a british passport and was raise dheavily influenced by italian culture.

my grandma tried to speak italian to me, i just laughed. i wish i learned the language properly now. we ate pasta fazoo, watched the fortunes of juventus football club and had an alfa romeo parked in the drive.

doesnt sound very australian to me...
 
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