Jack3d.

[DrugBaron]

I know it contains DMA, dimethylamine or some shit, but I was wondering whether or not its other ingredient:
Schizandrol A

What the fuck is this?

 

[spacejunk]

^fishy

 

[DrugBaron]

What does that mean?

 

[88brenno]

 

[spacejunk]

What does that mean?

fish·y   [fish-ee]
adjective, fish·i·er, fish·i·est.
1.
like a fish in shape, smell, taste, or the like.
2.
consisting of fish.
3.
abounding in fish.
4.
Informal . improbable, as a story; unlikely.
5.
Informal . of questionable character; suspicious: The sudden knockout was fishy.

 

[footscrazy]

I can't find any legit info on 'Schizandrol A'. Most likely it's a name the makers of this pill have invented to sound quasi legit.

 

[DrugBaron]

Thanks footscrazy...Melbourne city.

 

[spacejunk]

I can't find any legit info on 'Schizandrol A'. Most likely it's a name the makers of this pill have invented to sound quasi legit.

yup - fishy.
seems to be a lot of bullshit printed on labels of supplements and legal highs and the like.
it might be clever if the people doing it were using bogus chemical names/ingredient lists/product descriptions (incense and bath salts for example) with the understanding and knowledge of their customers, but it seems to just make it impossible to know what the hell you're ingesting. scary and really irresponsible.

 

[88brenno]

Legal highs suck, they arent legal for no reason, you either get ripped off or worse, suffer bad side effects. I would stick to well researched drugs.

 

[AussieBob]

Link of this topic on a body building forum.

 

[Sustanon]

It aint a legal high! Its a preworkout. I used to drink it ages ago, if u like being jittery all day after u take it then go for it, personally I think its shit. I found a 1000 times better pre workouts that I use. Can sleep straight after i take it and it works 100 times better. Make sure its pronounced Jacked! Not jack 3D as most stupid people pronounce is at my gym LOL They have no clue whatsoever bout most things :S

 

[footscrazy]

^ Ahaha Jack 3D - that's hilarious! That's almost as bad as pronouncing deadmau5, dead-mau-five.

 

[Sustanon]

Yeah I laugh when people say deadmau5 LOOL

 

[spacejunk]

It aint a legal high! Its a preworkout.

yeah, i didn't think it was a legal high, but if they both get into the territory of listing bullshit ingredients (to get away with using banned compounds, presumably?) then i don't really see the difference. i could be wrong - maybe it is some obscure natural extract, but its not the first dubious 'preworkout' mentioned here. that stuff's not exactly my field of expertise, but the effects you describe sound familiar...

 

[Nozphexezora]

^ Ahaha Jack 3D - that's hilarious! That's almost as bad as pronouncing deadmau5, dead-mau-five.

That's almost as bad as pronouncing deadmau5, dead-mau-five.

pronouncing deadmau5, dead-mau-five.

dead-mau-five.

 

[psytaco]

^ ah the poker face.

rage comics are a life saver. i spend a good portion of my time at work reading them.

btw, Sustanon. what pre workout supplements do you recommend. i normally just have a cup of coffee no sugar, and some protein.

 

[Sustanon]

There isnt anything banned in Jack3d though. You can get DMAA crystals on OZ sites plenty of places. Other than that I cant think of anything thats in it that would be banned. (Its banned in some sports and some workplaces too)

Psytaco: I really recommend trying Presurge by AEN or Craze by Driven Sport if you can handle the later. I keep going back to Presurge. Best stuff ive ever tried. Awesome pumps, heaps of energy, endurance, incredible strength etc etc. Ive tried them all. Lemme know how you went with them if u end up trying them.

 

[Tripman]

I can't find any legit info on 'Schizandrol A'. Most likely it's a name the makers of this pill have invented to sound quasi legit.

FWIW

Schizandrol A (2',3',4',1",2",3"-hexamethoxy-6, 7-dimethyl-1,2,3,4-dibenzo-1,3-cyclooctadien-6-ol) is one of the effective components in the dried fruit of Schizandra chinensis Bail. Previous studies have found that schizandrol A exerts inhibitory effects on the central nervous system (CNS). For the purpose of elucidating the mechanism of inhibition, the concentrations of monoamine neurotransmitters and their metabolites in rat brain and the effects of schizandrol A on some receptors were determined by the ion-pairing reversed-phase liquid chromatography with electrochemical detection method and competitive binding assay. In the neurotransmitter studies, significant elevations of dopamine and its metabolite DOPAC (in striatum) and DA (in hypothalamus) were observed after i.p. administration of 50 mg/kg or 100 mg/kg of schizandrol A. But the receptor binding experiments showed that schizandrol A had no affinity for dopamine D1 and D2 receptors. Serotonin receptors and alpha 1-,alpha 2-adrenergic receptors, and it did not affect the binding of dopamine to dopamine D1 or D2 receptors. These results indicate that the inhibition exerted by schizandrol A on the CNS may be related to the dopamine system, and the increase of dopamine turnover has nothing to do with dopamine receptors. The concentrations of the norepinephrine metabolite MHPG and the serotonin metabolite 5-HIAA showed changes in rat striatum and hypothalamus after schizandrol A treatment, but norepinephrine and serotonin levels were unaffected.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1678991

 

[drug_mentor]

I found this definition for Schizandrol A "Also known as “schizandrin“. A lignan isolated from Schisandra chinensis with potential anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, neuroprotective, anti-amnesiac and hepatoprotective effects."

Seems I am a little late and Tripman already provided a better definition. LOL

 

[footscrazy]

Thanks Tripman, I did read that - AussieBob provided a link to that source above