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I also agree the OP needs to seek serious medical help.

I have a number of problems. First the doseages are extremely high, like Tricomb said it would kill half the members on here. Even after several members said that the OP seems to want to argue and prove they have that high of a tolerance. It's almost as if the OP is trying to one up other members.

The OP claims to have quit cold turkey, however, I find those doseages unrealistic for that as well.

Now the OP has made a thread talking about shooting up after 13 days clean.

It's almost as if the OP is saying things that she knows will get people to say that can't be true, you couldn't have done that, or don't do that. In effect comments that are saying the OP is somehow better than others because of her advanced tolerance etc, and that people care about her because they don't want her to do that.

I would highly suggest the OP seek serious mental health. I waited this long to say something, and my post is more timid than I would have, but I think that just being quiet isn't helpful for harm reduction. If the story is true then the OP needs medical attention asap. If the story is false the op still needs medical attention.
 
I've taken 300mg morphine so far, when I tried to take more, I was shaking too hard and spilled another 3 x 100mg morphine aqueous solution.
So I'm still in incredible pain, and as a fellow pain patient I have something to say. I understand pain, but this is not something pain patients would do to themselves with the exception of several situations which I believe do not apply to you.

With the doses you're taking OP, this is clearly abuse, unless you are dying of cancer, autoimmune disease, AIDS, or have some absolutely DEBILITATING form of pain.

I've lost more friends and family, who, if they were here to play the "who can take the most opiates" game would still win against 99% of this forum, even with their huge tolerances (due to cancer, etc.) are smart enough not to do what the OP is suggesting. These are people who I've seen shoot up Sufentanil. People I've administered their medications for as they lay dying in bed. If they were all still here today, they would tell you not to do it.

If you're in THIS much pain, you need to call 911 for an ambulance where you can be put on a PCA pump. And this process is going to be hell due to the tolerance you have allowed to accumulate.

This is something I never understood that other pain patients can recklessly abuse their meds like this. I am deathly scared of what's happening to the OP: What if one day, my pain medications didn't help with pain because I had been abusing them.

This is basically what happened to the OP, and the answer is, you call an ambulance. The only people who can help you now are doctors and nurses at the hospital, and expect to be in a lot of pain until they give you enough IV pain meds to = a 900mg/day oxycodone habit.

IV Opana in your case is nothing short of a death wish.

OH and the most important thing, if you start to IV now, when you get the the point of hospitalization (if you don't overdose and die first) they will not be able to control your pain. If you ruin the IV route, the hospital has not much to go on and will take DRASTIC measures, that will be VERY PAINFUL.
 
So,@ tri, taking something like 6-900 mg oc + 2-400 mg opana would be feasible according to u? Or am I confused. I have met people with retarded tolerances . I took at least that much oc in one dose back when I did oc so I know that's possible it's just.... I feel like 400 mg opana is an overestimation, but then maybe not
Edit- I just noticed ur previous post sorry u already answered this. And ya 10 mg opana for an opiate naive person is terrible advice .. As is spreadin that oc is weaker than opana lol. So much misinformation.
Also I can't c why anyone would wanna say they are doing more than they are. The lower my dose the more proud of myself I am lol or maybe I wanna tell myself I can feel a dose I really can't (like when I did 160 mg oc snorted recently in between two days of a quarter g of h shot up( I snort the oc, I'd love to shoot it (no noes yet) but I refuse to put pill fillers n binders into my veins ...maybe if I had access to microns)

@my9- what level of pain are u dealing with (try to exclude WD from ur estimation.. I mean real physical pain on a 1-10 scale)
Ugh I didn't even realize I couldn't pm more than every 3 hours when I was a greenlighter. That's annoying. I wonder why it's like that. Talk shortly then. Just mad post so u reach the 50 for BL status :)
 
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LeLouche said:
I also agree the OP needs to seek serious medical help.

I have a number of problems. First the doseages are extremely high, like Tricomb said it would kill half the members on here. Even after several members said that the OP seems to want to argue and prove they have that high of a tolerance. It's almost as if the OP is trying to one up other members.

The OP claims to have quit cold turkey, however, I find those doseages unrealistic for that as well.

Now the OP has made a thread talking about shooting up after 13 days clean.

It's almost as if the OP is saying things that she knows will get people to say that can't be true, you couldn't have done that, or don't do that. In effect comments that are saying the OP is somehow better than others because of her advanced tolerance etc, and that people care about her because they don't want her to do that.

I would highly suggest the OP seek serious mental health. I waited this long to say something, and my post is more timid than I would have, but I think that just being quiet isn't helpful for harm reduction. If the story is true then the OP needs medical attention asap. If the story is false the op still needs medical attention.
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all ive said over and over is that YES THAT IS MY ACTUAL DOSE because everyone is basically calling me a liar, and i know what i take, its going in my goddamn nose not yours. AND i didnt say i quit cold turkey, i said i used a shitload of xanax and kpin, a good amount of clonidine, and some sub. do your research before you call me a mental headcase and a lying attention seeker. and why would i think im better than other people because im a piece of shit junkie?!? how does that make sense...being a junkie does not make me feel like im better than anyone else thats for sure. i started this thread to get help for my weirdly long-lasting WD symptoms, if youre not interested in helping and all you want to do is talk shit about me, then leave the thread. that simple. and the reason for starting the other thread is because if i relapse, which is pretty damn likely to be honest, i want to be able to actually get high like i used to to make the relapse worth it after almost 2 weeks clean. so believe what you want but im not a goddamn liar nor a "serious mental health" case and i def dont appreciate being called either.
 
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Feasable? Yes, I've known people who took MUCH more opiates than the OP. But I'm saying these people NEEDED it, they were DYING. They had CANCER and skeletons so fucked up like they'd been hit by a bus.

400mg Opana, I have such a hard time believing that a fellow pain patient would allow their tolerance to reach such an insane level, to the point where even the hospital will have a hard time helping you. But since I know it IS possible, I have seen it in loved ones who were on their death bed. @OP, What is your ROA? are you snorting the opana and roxi or orally?

But should the OP be doing this much? FUCK no. This is one of the grossest abuse of opiates I have seen on this website in a long time, this surpasses most of the fentanyl abuse threads. There is no way that the OP is in enough pain to take like a gram of OC with 0.4 grams OM without being hospitalized.

No doctor would prescribe this to someone who isn't dying. To me, I snort opana and that's stronger than IV heroin. Ever since I met opana, there has been no need for me to use a needle, I've been IV-free for 2 years. The fact that the nasal ROA is not enough for the OP is enough to warrant hospitalization.

Currently, the biggest tolerance outside my family or friends, is a member of my pain management clinic's support group. She takes 3,000mg morphine per day on top of her fentanyl. She is bound to a wheelchair, and has her daughter cop heroin for her because it's still not enough.

Are you in a wheelchair OP? Are you dying of cancer? Because the doses you are on say you are. You are taking more than what's equal to 500mcg/hour fentanyl, JUST BASED ON YOUR OXYCODONE DOSE, not even factoring in the opana.
 
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This statement right here. Please show me a doctor that doesn't think you need serious help:
right now but i cant deal with the soberness. its awful. plus im still getting WD symptoms out the ass. AFTER 2 WEEKS. so should i just ride out the sobriety or start banging?
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Also, I'm sorry but you should read the BLUA. The site doesn't allow for threads asking how to get fucked up, which you basically do.
so i have been snorting 600-900 mgs of oxy/roxy/opana a day for like 2 years. i cant get high anymore. if i banged them would it fuck me up?
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So far people have offered you harm reduction advice, which is that you need mental help. Do you have any harm reduction questions? Your other thread has turned more into a miniblog. Use the blog feature for that. As for this thread you are asking if you will get fucked up. That is against the rules. We cannot, nor will we, tell you that.
 
tricomb said:
Feasable? Yes, I've known people who took MUCH more opiates than the OP. But I'm saying these people NEEDED it, they were DYING. They had CANCER and skeletons so fucked up like they'd been hit by a bus.

400mg Opana, I have such a hard time believing that a fellow pain patient would allow their tolerance to reach such an insane level, to the point where even the hospital will have a hard time helping you. But since I know it IS possible, I have seen it in loved ones who were on their death bed. @OP, What is your ROA? are you snorting the opana and roxi or orally?

But should the OP be doing this much? FUCK no. This is one of the grossest abuse of opiates I have seen on this website in a long time, this surpasses most of the fentanyl abuse threads. There is no way that the OP is in enough pain to take like a gram of OC with 0.4 grams OM without being hospitalized.

No doctor would prescribe this to someone who isn't dying. To me, I snort opana and that's stronger than IV heroin. Ever since I met opana, there has been no need for me to use a needle, I've been IV-free for 2 years. The fact that the nasal ROA is not enough for the OP is enough to warrant hospitalization.

Currently, the biggest tolerance outside my family or friends, is a member of my pain management clinic's support group. She takes 3,000mg morphine per day on top of her fentanyl. She is bound to a wheelchair, and has her daughter cop heroin for her because it's still not enough.

Are you in a wheelchair OP? Are you dying of cancer? Because the doses you are on say you are. You are taking more than what's equal to 500mcg/hour fentanyl, JUST BASED ON YOUR OXYCODONE DOSE, not even factoring in the opana.
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bump because it's really important
 
@tri -3 grams of morph+fent+h?! Holy shit!
Ye I always am worried I'll actually need painkillers for a legit reason (I am red flagged by my doc tho so it means unless I have something real bad I'm not getting shit- treat addicts like crap once they know) and I'll have fucked my tolerance too bad by that point... I'm assuming sometime when I'm midle age i need some for something. So I try and keep it as low as I can.

I had k pains during my h WD and I was so pissed I couldn't take opiates cuz I've already well fucked myself on that front. K pains r terrible for me: if I do more than a quarter I might get them (over a week, not 7g in one sitting) and they last 3-5 days of me being in bed in pain so bad it actually makes u scream an puke. I wound up in the hospital from this 4x usually when I quit opiates cuz I do k for the mental shit and overdo it - id love to use k as a proper antiD like jamshyd described once on here but I don't have the self control. If I only have a bit in the morn it makes my crushing depression from WD fuck off for a day or two tho)
K pains r inflammation of some tube attached to (as well as the gall bladder itself) and it contracts super painfully. It ain't fun
 
livetheopiatedream said:
So,@ tri, taking something like 6-900 mg oc + 2-400 mg opana would be feasible according to u? Or am I confused. I have met people with retarded tolerances . I took at least that much oc in one dose back when I did oc so I know that's possible it's just.... I feel like 400 mg opana is an overestimation, but then maybe not
Edit- I just noticed ur previous post sorry u already answered this. And ya 10 mg opana for an opiate naive person is terrible advice .. As is spreadin that oc is weaker than opana lol. So much misinformation.
Also I can't c why anyone would wanna say they are doing more than they are. The lower my dose the more proud of myself I am lol or maybe I wanna tell myself I can feel a dose I really can't (like when I did 160 mg oc snorted recently in between two days of a quarter g of h shot up( I snort the oc, I'd love to shoot it (no noes yet) but I refuse to put pill fillers n binders into my veins ...maybe if I had access to microns)

@my9- what level of pain are u dealing with (try to exclude WD from ur estimation.. I mean real physical pain on a 1-10 scale)
Ugh I didn't even realize I couldn't pm more than every 3 hours when I was a greenlighter. That's annoying. I wonder why it's like that. Talk shortly then. Just mad post so u reach the 50 for BL status :)
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exactly!!! why would i want to make myself out to be more of a piece of shit than i already am?!? its just really frustrating to me because ive been basically called a liar by almost every person on this thread.

but anyways, i took a bar this morning so my WD really isnt bad at all besides my stomach is fucked up. an i still cant eat. but my back pain is at at least a 7. it goes back and forth, gets a little better, than a lot worse, but my leg at least is doing good today. i would put that at like a 1-2, which is totally tolerable.

thanks for helping me get my posts up!!! :)
 
A 7 pain ain't fun for suuuree! My experience with pain is limited so I'm not the best to ask about how to deal with that on top of ur WD. Majority of my "pain" over the year is the near daily WD I had to deal with at work to scrape by with my habit and rent, till I made some money in the game(And got out while WAY ahead thanks very much. Not wanting to piss away 50 grand is why I quit, and even then I pissed a bunch away on my Mini relapses and k use.at least k is cheap comparably. Do u do any k? Not sure f it would b as popular in the US as it is in Canada or uk where I know for a fact the shit is rampant. Least here it is :).
 
@Tri thanks for correcting all my misinformation lol. and right now im 12 days clean, but the super soberness/depression is killing me, not to mention my legitimate pain, so im not sure if ill be able to ride it out or not. the only reason i even asked about IVing is because if i do end up relapsing, i want to get fucked up as i can to make these 12 days of hell not as useless. im not PLANNING on doing it, it was just something i was wondering about. im going to try my best to stay clean, and realistically even if i do relapse, even for one day, i seriously doubt ill go the IV route. thanks for all the info though, much appreciated!!! oh yeah and thats a big reason i decided to get clean for at least a little while, so that i can take my script at normal dosage and take care of my pain without spending 10s of 1000s of dollars a month to make it through. I really hope your pain gets better, i feel awful for you.
 
Your pain is a 7???? And that warrants a gram of oxy and 200-400mg oxymorphone????

There is no way this is prescribed. What you do if your pain is in an uncontrollable pain flare, is you go to the emergency room. You don't take as many meds as it takes til it doesn't hurt anymore. You are masking pain that could be getting worse.

I woke up in a solid 8.5/10 and my waking thoughts were "I hope somebody is around to drive me to the hospital if I need to go" not "where are my meds?" I needed 300mg morphine to get out of bed and call my doctor, as no one is here to drive me to the ER and I cannot afford an ambulance . Most days I spend a good hour minimum working up the confidence to deal with the pain of getting out of bed.

I understand that addiction WITH chronic pain is a VERY difficult ballgame, I'm up to bat in this game everyday trying not to get hit by whatever curveball life throws at me. Please listen to someone who understands pain and wants you to know so bad that THIS IS NOT HOW YOU TREAT IT. You need to work with doctors and they will find a dose that works for you.

I think you're nearing the point of realization that you can't just up your dose/self medicate for chronic pain. It will end in death. I UNDERSTAND you wanting to get even the slightest relief, even if it means shooting up. Let me tell you once again it is a death wish at your level of addiction.
 
livetheopiatedream said:
A 7 pain ain't fun for suuuree! My experience with pain is limited so I'm not the best to ask about how to deal with that on top of ur WD. Majority of my "pain" over the year is the near daily WD I had to deal with at work to scrape by with my habit and rent, till I made some money in the game(And got out while WAY ahead thanks very much. Not wanting to piss away 50 grand is why I quit, and even then I pissed a bunch away on my Mini relapses and k use.at least k is cheap comparably. Do u do any k? Not sure f it would b as popular in the US as it is in Canada or uk where I know for a fact the shit is rampant. Least here it is :).
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ive never tried it, that and pcp are like the only 2 things i havent done. god i suck lol. what a junkie.
i know people around here do it, but its not ommon t all. its big up there though?
 
tricomb said:
Your pain is a 7???? And that warrants a gram of oxy and 200-400mg oxymorphone????

There is no way this is prescribed. What you do if your pain is in an uncontrollable pain flare, is you go to the emergency room. You don't take as many meds as it takes til it doesn't hurt anymore. You are masking pain that could be getting worse.

I woke up in a solid 8.5/10 and my waking thoughts were "I hope somebody is around to drive me to the hospital if I need to go" not "where are my meds?" I needed 300mg morphine to get out of bed and call my doctor, as no one is here to drive me to the ER and I cannot afford an ambulance . Most days I spend a good hour minimum working up the confidence to deal with the pain of getting out of bed.

I understand that addiction WITH chronic pain is a VERY difficult ballgame, I'm up to bat in this game everyday trying not to get hit by whatever curveball life throws at me. Please listen to someone who understands pain and wants you to know so bad that THIS IS NOT HOW YOU TREAT IT. You need to work with doctors and they will find a dose that works for you.

I think you're nearing the point of realization that you can't just up your dose/self medicate for chronic pain. It will end in death. I UNDERSTAND you wanting to get even the slightest relief, even if it means shooting up. Let me tell you once again it is a death wish at your level of addiction.
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im not prescribed anywhere near what i actually take, i get 180 30 mg roxys and 60 20mg opanas a month. but even though ifeel like dog sit and im in a ton of pain, at least ive got almost 2 weeks clean!!!
 
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you still have withdrawals as you've been using bupe - duh
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I didn't notice she said that till now. U r correct this is totally why if shes been takin a lot! Especially if it was for the whole two weeks! Also If u took sub in the last 24 hrs it'll block some of the roxi u plan to do today

Edit- k is certainly big in Toronto. Was a bit of a shortage last year but thats all cleared up and finally startin to see some nice shard around. I'm sure u haven't done EVERYTHING but k n pcp. What about mxe, mescaline, all the psychedelic RC's like 2-ci or 2-ce, Orrr o-desmethyltramadol (legal opiate), or the crazy fentanyls (not just regular fent), or shrooms, LSD, ghb, doi etc etc lol... :0
 
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I didn't notice she said that till now. U r correct this is totally why if shes been takin a lot! Especially if it was for the whole two weeks! Also If u took sub in the last 24 hrs it'll block some of the roxi u plan to do today
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nah look at the reply i wrote to that post (too lazy to rewrite it lol), def not the answer.

tricomb said:
Please don't relapse, especially with a needle, it will be the end of you. CALL YOUR DOCTOR. That is the solution here.
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thank you. it helps me out a lot actually just knowing that someone who doesnt even know who the fuck i am is that worried about me. your support means a lot :)

LeLouche said:
This statement right here. Please show me a doctor that doesn't think you need serious help:


Also, I'm sorry but you should read the BLUA. The site doesn't allow for threads asking how to get fucked up, which you basically do.


So far people have offered you harm reduction advice, which is that you need mental help. Do you have any harm reduction questions? Your other thread has turned more into a miniblog. Use the blog feature for that. As for this thread you are asking if you will get fucked up. That is against the rules. We cannot, nor will we, tell you that.
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i never asked how to shoot up read the fucking posts. and youre not even a mod so why are you all on my ass about wtf im saying if the mods arent saying shit you shouldnt be either. just leave it alone, you can disagree with me all you want, youre entitled to your own opinion, but im not trying to get in a fucking internet fight with you. so just leave it the fuck alone your not my mommy or my doctor.

@Tri-PS is your avatar from requiem for a dream?!?
 
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While I am not even close to a mod. Actually pretty new. I used to read for years but never post. No account and i was a lazy junkie ...
I keep seeing em tell ppl to combine posts with edits if they r the last poster. I think. Not Tryig to b an annoying douche lol just I keep seeing that shit
 
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