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IVing dextropropoxyphene

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Beerman

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Hi all, this is my first post in bluelight, but I've read a lot of posts here. I'm from spain so my english sure sucks.

I only want to know if SWIY had tried this before, IVing capsules or pills of dextropropoxyphene, SWIM had done that with relative cool results.

SWIM is on dextropropoxyphene because of his heroin addiction, SWIM used to IV smack, but now SWIM have no way to mantain his habit and SWIM get "help" from his doctor so she prescribed dextropropoxyphene for "detox" :\, in spain this drug is sold as "Deprancol A.S." (dextropropoxyphene HCL 150mg extended relase). SWIM put the content of one or two capsules in a mortar with 1cc of water and pulverize it, then filter and plug IV in the arm. SWIM says that it gives a mild rush and enjoys it, but he think that it's because he had relative low tolerance to opiates and he was on a little withdrawal.

Any experiences doing this? Any recomendation? :)
 
Bienvenido Amigo!!

As he said....Micron Filters!! If you're in Spain (dunno which part) I'd rather get me some Caballo n(heroin) if I were to IV....fuck even some tramadol ampoules, or some benzo ampoule and I would take Perduretas Orally, Dextropropoxyphene produces several CNS depression at doses not so much higher than THERAPEUTIC ones, not even saying recreational....on the other hand I know Spaniard Docs and their bizarre way of thinking and I'd say that in spanish hospitals in the ER's dextropropoxyphene IV and a NSAID IV is the standard procedure for analgesia.....una mierda!!! Pero mejor que nada es!!! Saludos desde Argentina, si tenes alguna duda o necesitas ayuda en el sitio mandame un mensaje privado.

Bienvenido a Bluelight.....and try to get ampoules please, or heroin....dextropropoxyphene carries sucha a dirty buzz and I don't imagine any IV rush
 
Oh I see you're quitting the horse....welll you have ER caps, which generally in spain have the Ion-Bonded Matrix for slow release, so to defeat the time release that you'd need some citric acid (dunno the matrix, so dunno if citric acid)....and if you're IVing Propoxyphene you're not much better off than IVing smack.....only your economy, and stability since you have a legal script.....what about asking your doc to switch you to Bupe or Methadone.....though if you're holding fine with propoxy Tramadol or Codeine would do the job.....and you have Perduretas in Spain which are one of my fav Codeine preparations and dunno now, but used to be OTC.....you can't bang those though.....if you have an IV fixation in spain there are ampoules of Tramadol and an assotment of benzo ampoules.

Dextropropoxyphene also has a toxic metabolite that builds up on yopur body over time, maybe your doc didn't knew about this, or the perils of your H addiction were far worse, whichever the case I'd switch prescriptions and wouldn't ever IV TIME RELEASE ION_BONDED MATRIX DEXTROPROPOXYPHENE...if you're used to H it'll be such a huuuuuge dissapointment, and it's dangerous...


P.S. Hey Swerlz!!! Thanks for remembering me, I've been busy with 2jobs and I've been on vacation (it's summer down here), still am, till friday, so though I'm always lurking now I have more time to get fucked up on many psychoactives and read and post on bluelight under the intense summer sun with the AC on at max. setting, waking from a nod to do a line of coke to keep me up, then do more opies to come down, check bluelight, smoke some trees, repeat the process and well, that all over again, ahhhhh ain't that what life should be supposed to be (redundant I know)? :) A big hi to all ya fellow BLer's who remember me.....I'm alive and well :)....goinhg to my psychiatrist now to see when I get on bupe
 
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^ Thank you all for answering.

The fillers and binders and other crap are: shellac (alkaline, for the extended relase) and povidone (polyvinylpyrrolidone) as glazing agent, sucrose and corn starch (and gelatin) as fillers/binders. I think are all soluble except the starch that is only soluble in hot water.

any one knows if citric acid will be fine to expedite the process of dissolve the pellets on water?
and, do I have to wait to cool the heated (cooked in spoon) mixture to let the starch precipitate before filter?

Thank you again! :)
 
I've tried IVing ampoules of tramadol HCL (100mg), I prefer IVing dextropropoxyphene because it doesn't is a "produg" like tramadol (Better oral because I think it needs to pass to o-desmethyltramadol in 1st liver pass to be a REALLY mu agonist, despite tramadol is itself a weak mu agonist, it is not as far as potent as o-desmethyltramadol is) and it gives me a weak but IMO lovely "rush".

I've tried oral codeine (to Geezer: perduretas are out of the market since 2 or 3 years, there's only "codeisan tablets" with 28.5mg of codeine phosphate) and to get a decent buzz from codeine I need about 300mg, and the problem is that it's a waste and dangerous pluging codeine by the same reason of tramadol (is a prodrug). I think dextropropoxyphene is the best OTC opiate for IVing. [here in spain, if you have luck, the only opiates OTC (or here named "no controled substance" but "prescription needed", but that depends on the pharmacist or someone is selling, he can sell it to you without a problem, or say: you need the prescription :X :! :p)) you can buy are tramadol, codeine, and dextropropoxyphene].
But there's not a ph preparation of dextropropoxyphene for IV so I have to "make" it :|

Thanks again.
 
Haha It's EXACTLY the same here in Argentina with ¨OTC¨opioids...the same ones..... I'd take the codeine even if I had to take 12 pills a day over IVing dextropropoxyphene....but ypou say you tried it and liked it, so go for that!!! Congrats on quitting, I have a bunch of as I call them ¨Farmacias Amigas¨ that do exactly what you described in your post and also sell you benzos and dxm but here in one Farma Amiga I could get morphine,oxy and all the good stuff, nowadays they only get hydrocodone time release 5mg with clorpheniramine 15 of them for about 50€.....I've quit a daily habit of IV H and OC I had for years back in 2006, but still do tramadol hydro and codeine on a daily basis....and here coke ois everywhere and cheap as fuck, so you always have some laying aroiund....easier to find than good weed, but hey we just imitate ¨Espana, La Gran Madre Patria¨ :P.....I totally can feel where you're coming from, finally buprenorphine has been re-released in Argentina but in patch form as an analgesic.....I talked with my psychiatrist today and he told me to already start the induction and by the end of febraury I'll be on bupe.....ahhhh such a relief not having to go running to the pharm cause you were to jaded or had work or met your girl or some friends and ran out of opies and only the pharms that ask for scripts are open......ahhhh no more of that with bupe :) 3months ago you could buy tramadol in ANY pharmacy here, but it was blacklisted and moved to another schedule...it's the best bang for your back down here, I usually mix it with the other opies....haven't had dextropropoxyphene since 2002...now before I start bupe I'll go crazy with the opies and taper last week. Don't you have buprenorphine in spain?.....The way Pharmacy and Biochemistry and Medicine are taught in Argentina and Spain and the medical market are almost IDENTICAL.....and I studied and worked on the medical field so I can assure you and know where you're coming from and feel your pain. Here H is a total rarity, but I managed to find a source back when I was a junkie and luckily I got clean....my best friend and drug buddy (also a bluelighter) robbed a pharmacy for Oxys and a Veterinary for Ketamine and commited suicide last year...opioids are a bitch, I love Heroin more than life, it's my kryptonite, and I feel bupe will be perfect for me, especially in weekly patches that deliver 20mgs slowly.....try to get ampoules of dextropropoxyphene for IVing, they use them like candy in hospitals in all spanish speaking countries, some farmacia amiga that sells ampoules will get it for you....de que parte de espania sos chaval? un gran abrazo y suerte!! Opioid addiction is a fucking bitch, and I just had a cheap ¨speedball¨ (coke, loads of benzos, 300mg tramadol, 300mg codeine and 20mg hydro) and I'm preaching......thing with tram addiction is the SSri AND ssrn PART, i'LL NEED TO TAPER CAREFULLY....I'd really reccomend you seek bupe.....and if you're hellbent on IVing IV bupe packs an awesome punch and nod!!!!!! Grandes Saludos!
 
Hi again Geezer, I'm from Barcelona. I said my doc to put me in a maintenance of bupe but she said that I'm too young for that.. (21yo) and she said the best way is "detox", but I prefer maintenance, if is not bupe, whatever is good, dextroprop., codein, tramadol, oxy.. hehe. Here is IMPOSSIBLE that you can buy benzos whithout prescription (only maybe bentazepam) and MORE impossible buying opiates like oxy, hydro, or morph. And there's NOT ampoules of Propox. anymore, and the capsule XR version is going to whithdraw of the market and disapear from pharmacies. Now I'm crushing one dextrop. 150mg..:) then I'll smoke some quality pot to achieve a good high. Grandes saludos!! :)
 
And about the two questions asked before:
Beerman said:
^ Thank you all for answering.

The fillers and binders and other crap are: shellac (alkaline, for the extended relase) and povidone (polyvinylpyrrolidone) as glazing agent, sucrose and corn starch (and gelatin) as fillers/binders. I think are all soluble except the starch that is only soluble in hot water.

any one knows if citric acid will be fine to expedite the process of dissolve the pellets on water?
and, do I have to wait to cool the heated (cooked in spoon) mixture to let the starch precipitate before filter?

Thank you again! :)
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Anyone knows?
Merci!
 
If you have an opiate tolerance, dextropropoxyphene does absolutely nothing. Worst opiate I've ever encountered in my life for recreational purposes. It does help a bit with reducing cravings for other opiates if you are withdrawing from a habit, but other then that there are are no positive effects IME for someone that is opiate tolerant.

As for IVing it? I wouldn't know if that would change things so that it produced some kind of euphoria/positive effects but I doubt it. It would also be potentially quite dangerous I'd imagine. Don't do it IMO.
 
I've done it several times 150mg IV and there is a mild rush with euphoria.
My tolerance to opiates is relative low (500mg of street heroin about 30% last me 3 days, body weight 55kg), and I plug it when I was on withdrawal and the feeling was very good, relief of all withdrawal symptoms and nice euphoria too. In big ammounts (450mg) intravenous it gives a really fucking opiate high, like other else, but have to be carefully, I've read that doses betwen 750-1500 are may be lethal. A good opiate IMO, but I prefer tramadol, it gives me more lucid and happyness effects, but the lame is that tramadol is prodrug, like codeine, while dextropropoxyphene isn't, and now is what I've a prescription :) (OTC opiates talking).

Edit: still no answers for this questions: any one knows if citric acid will be fine to expedite the process of dissolve the pellets on water?
and, do I have to wait to cool the heated (cooked in spoon) mixture to let the starch precipitate before filter?

Thanks a lot, bluelight & bluelighters you rock! :D
 
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Yeah citric acid would accelerate the proccess, the ideal way to fully dissolve the contents of the pills you have would be by re-creating the acidic stomach enviorment, so with some pH strips (they sell them at aquariums-pet stores) you should try to recreate a pH like the one of the human stomach, which is idiosyncratic, but between 6-7 if you need a number, though it can be very different person to person, and dissolve in that solution for 24 hours and the dextropropoxyphene shouldn't be extended release anymore...and maybe trey seeing another doc, opiate addiction is a bitch and what you're doing to ' detox' is far worse than bupe, I've heard of people younger than that being put on bupe, you're a free man if you're 21, I'd really suggest you see another doc and try to get on bupe what matters is that you have a chronic disease and you want to do something about it, and you can, and are willing to, but you're doing greater harm to yourself IVing dextropropoxyphene XR pills you prep. in a spoon and filter it with cotton like H (I pressume) than shooting street H.

Oh che is argentine slang, it's like tu-vos....never heard of it? we use it like in every 2 words, sometimes up to a hundred times in a sentence, eh che vos che, en serio no sabias que era che? mucha suerte che, saludos para Catalunia che.... :)
 
^I've heard it but I didn't know what it exactly mean XD

I'll stop IVing that, it had started to make me "rare" reactions when I plug, lungs and bronchi or somethin here in the chest seems to burn, and i feel a little pain in the course of the vein of where i'm pluging O_O, never happened this before... , but I'm ok, I think.

I know injectinc pills/caps is absolutely not recomended but it's so far stronger than eating an dextrop. XR... I'll talk to my doc to detox with bupe, because he said that bupe is only used as treatment of maintenance (like methadone)...

The problem is that I don't want stop doing opiates/opioids, but I can't pay my habit (street H about 150$ a week, I have no job now, searching...) and here in Spain, methadone is free for opioid dependents, but bupe is so fucking expensive, but I don't want to take methadone and don't have the money for treating with bupe (much more expensive than dextrop. XR I'm taking)

Definitely I have to talk with my doc..

One question Geezer: how do you think micron filters are called in spain? I haven't ever seen them, only pictures in harm reduction websites.. Where do you think I can buy some of them?


Thx for answering.
 
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Any recomendation?
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My first recomendation would be not to use the word SWIM. Not only is it completely useless and won't protect you against any law enforcement persecution it also annoys the living fuck out of alot of people one of whom is me :X . Fuck i just hate people who use the word Swim fuckin cocksucking fuck :! .

Second dextropropoxyphene aka propoxyphene is the only opioid i would not accept for free. This is saying alot considering how much i love opiates like morphine and hydromorphone and i even still like codeine when i have nothing left but id rather be in agony and dopesick then take propoxyphene. I doubt it would do anything to fix you anyway and would probably be even more useless then tramadol and meperidine for helping withdrawal.

Ive taken propoxyphene only twice and it was the only opioid to this date that has made me sick. The second time i took it i took the recomended dose and puked so hard i busted blood vessels in my face :p . It was awful to say the least. I couldnt imagine how bad it would be to IV dextropropoxyphene on your veins and everything else.

Propoxyphene is a nasty drug that has a even nastier metabolite called norpropoxyphene which builds up in your blood stream rather quickly and causes hallucinations, seizures and severe cardiac problems. (Dextro)Propoxyphene is also a really weak opioid about a 3rd as strong as codeine so it is so not worth it to inject this shit.

If you have access to OTC codeine why are you bothering with this shit? Not every drug has to be IVed by the way and codeine is great for tapering off other opiates or just taking it for a high if you have a low tolerance. Ive used it to taper off morphine, oxycodone and hydromorphone more then a few times or just to hold me over until my next script.
 
Sorry for using SWIM, but if you read I've only used it in the first post, I used it because I've read it and thought that it was a way to "proetect" the forum. Anyway I won't use it again.

Some people hate dextrop, some people hate tramadol, some people hate codein. You know what I mean.

Actually I only can get dextrop, so is the only way to "mantain" my habit, codein and tramadol I used to get it without prescription, but nowadays always ask me for the prescription.

How I said before in other posts, I'll stop IVing that shit, but I'll break down the pellets to "destroy" the XR coating and take it oraly.

Thanx all for answering.
 
Hi I have about 3 boxes of this drug called Dextropropoxyphene-Paracetamol and says there are 20 capsules in each box. I have no tolerance to opiates, and was wondering if you can get high off these, also I noticed you can take apart the capsules and white power compared to Ritalin/coke looking comes out. My question is what is the purpose of the drug, can you get high off it, how much to take, and what the best way of taking it is.
Thank you any response is great!
 
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