HeadphonesandLSD
Bluelighter
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This is not the usual "trip report" but I thought it important to write about this after having to dredge through so much bullshit about this drug both on the internet and with the local medical community. I was already sure the most GPs in my local area are clueless and useless drug pushers. But this experience has all but confirmed it. Having to self treat for this was incredibly frustrating even more so when I attempted to seek out advice and information on the internet in 2025. Thankfully, a wealth of knowledge (that I guess GPs don't read anymore) was available through medical papers and organizations in "third world countries" and I was able to source the drug(s) I needed to treat myself very cheaply through non-human channels.
After returning back home from a stint where I was forced to share living space with frankly nasty and insane people I had noticed I was not feeling very well. I was sucking down aspirin like it was going out of style, I was alternating between being bloated and constipated and having horrible diarrhea despite taking kratom near daily (I'm an addict, what can I say). I was regularly sick on the stomach and my belly had turned in a pot belly despite not being "fat" or regularly drinking beer. I was craving sugar hard and no matter how much I ate I always became hungry within an hour or so. I always woke up with a horrible cough which I thought was just years of smoking catching up with me. People around me said this was just part of middle age. But I felt so horrible compared to a few years ago that I didn't want to accept that as an excuse. My hair was also starting to turn white in places only to return to its normal color if I yanked those white hairs out. Something was horribly wrong with me.
Against my better judgement I went to a GP that I am not a fan of (he's a dumb fuck). All the usual tests were run. He found nothing. He tried to put me on anti-depressants and said my problems were just in my head. The usual spiel. With him. I pretended to accept his advice, fill the prescription then promptly tossed it in a drawer with the legions of other pills he's attempted to give me over the years. None of which are good (or fun).
A few weeks later I got my answer to what was wrong with me. I had been sucking down enough kratom for general pain around that time that I was frankly full of shit. So I was in the bathroom for awhile attempting to push out a massive log. As is my usual habit when I push out something I think might be impressive I sneak a peek at it before wiping and flushing it down to the septic tank. I noticed there was an odd looking bore hold coming out of one side of it. Like someone had taken a drill to it. I thought this was odd but didn't think more of it and flushed. I jumped in the shower because I had some place to be in about an hour and wanted to smell my best.
My usual habits in the shower are as such: Head, shoulders, arms, body, legs, feet, arm pits, then I address my dick and balls and finally my asshole. Asshole is always last for obvious reasons. I was in the shower about 20 minutes like usual. When I went to lather up my asshole I was met with a surprise.
A large white round worm about 6 inches or more long was suck to my butt hole. I first felt it through the wash cloth and being unsure what it might be I had to reach in with bare hands and grab it. It was folded over and obviously dead. At first I was unsure what I was looking at. But I'd seen these worms before when I de-wormed my cats and dogs over the years. I was disgusted. I had worms living inside of me and I knew there must be a ton of them if once came out on its own. I should have bagged it up and saved it to prove the GP wrong. But in my haste I dropped it and it went down the drain never to be seen again.
I finished up and left to my appointment. I wasn't really paying attention to anything happening because the worms were on my mind. I thought about the old Pink Floyd song, could the worms be eating into my brain? I wonder...once I got home I stayed up half the night researching worms and related parasites.
I decided that I must have something called Ascariasis (a roundworm called Ascaris lumbricoide). It fit all the symptoms and would explain my horrible morning coughing (it causes lung symptoms and being coughed up and swallowed is part of its life cycle). I also discovered that my parasite load much be very heavy. It was time to figure out what I needed to do to get rid of my uninvited guests.
There were several drugs and dosing guidelines suggested. Most of which were impossible to get unless I went through a GP or paid big money at a vet. I really wanted something OTC because I'd read tons of horror stories about people going to GPs for worms only to get referrals to shrinks and a blight on their medical records. Tons and tons of threads on places like reddit where smug know-nothings claim "We don't have worms in America!". As is this one country is cleaner than all the others or something. If I were anywhere else in the world I could have gotten what I needed for free. Even chocolate flavored! But I live in a hell hole run by "big pharma" where everything costs an arm and leg.
Looking around it seemed like ivermectin was my best bet. I could buy it cheaply OTC at the farm supply store. It didn't seem like it had many side effects. It only required one small dose with maybe a follow up dose a few weeks later. But this sent me down another massive rabbit hole on the internet. It seems like this drug has become very popular with both sides of the idiot consortium as of late. There were people claiming it cured cancer. People claiming they were taking upwards to 100mg a day. People claiming that it was totally useless. People claiming that even the smallest amount would kill me. People claiming that the kind for animals was somehow different than the kind that come in tablets for humans. There was ZERO useful information. But somehow somewhere among all this noise I found a jewel. It required using a Russian search engine and very carefully selected search terms. But on some far away blog someone actually posted something of value.
I set off to the farm supply store to pretend I owned a horse. When I got there I was sad to discover that the brand I wanted to buy was sold out. Seems we have a bunch of fans of apple flavored horse dewormer where I live. A cute little girl that was a big fan of horses rung me up. She commented on how popular this item was and tried to helpfully advise me to buy another brand (with multiple drugs in it) to kill "all the worms". She wanted to know what kind of horse I owned. I lied and told her that I was buying this for a cow. A half truth. I do own a cow but I'd never deworm it with paste (we inject them instead). Embarrassed and not wanting to admit that I was taking this myself I got out of there as quickly as possible.
I did some quick math to figure out how much ivermectin was in each squirt of this paste/syringe. I knew it wouldn't be 100% exact because it could have settled or otherwise not be equally distributed. But I figured it would be pretty close. I took the total weight of the paste and divided and multiplied until I figured out every notch on the plunger was about 4mg of ivermectin. Then I converted my current body weight to kg and I had my dose. About 12-14mg. I squirted out some of the paste, scraped the end level on the syringe, then squirted out three more notches worth on a rolling paper. I wrapped the paste in said paper then swallowed it like a tablet. I waited to see what would happen.
T+3 hours: All of a sudden I feel like I can breath again. Despite smoking like a freight train it's like I'm sucking down air for the first time. I'm hopeful that I'll wake up tomorrow and not be dead. I retire to bed.
T+11-12 hours: After a restful sleep I wake up surprised that I'm 1) not coughing up my lungs as usual and 2) not really feeling opioid withdrawal. I even hold off on taking kratom for several hours hoping that I'll pass the worms in my guts quickly. But I'm full of shit as usual from taking it so often. Instead of going to the bathroom right away like usual it takes many hours before I have a bowel movement. I inspect the logs and there are no worms in them. This is probably going to take away I guess. I read it could be as much as 10 days. I return to my normal routine.
T+24-120 hours: Not much to report other than I'm still feeling much better. Still no cough in the morning. Bowel movements are normal. I've seen no worms in my poop either. No major side effects from the ivermectin to report either. Maybe a very slight fever on day 2 and day 3 but not enough that I'm concerned. I chalk it up to parasite die off and not the drug itself. Most restful sleep I've had in years. Appetite has returned to normal. No craving for sugar even soda tastes overly sweet. Diet is now mostly whole foods and some meat instead of bread, candy, ice cream and pizza.
T+142 hours: I woke up and instantly knew I should probably find a place to have a bowel movement soon. My guts are bubbling and gurgling, no pain but I _really_ need to go. No cough either. I have a small dose of kratom and light up a smoke.
I'm on the toilet for at least 45 minutes and it just won't stop coming. Very loose stool. I had to flush 3 times. Stool consisted of some digested food and tons of half digested worms and pieces of worms. I know it isn't my "intestinal lining" like the fear mongers on the internet claim as I've seen that before from sticking drugs that I shouldn't have up my poop shoot. There are so many worms. I would post a picture but that'd be gross (and I didn't take one anyway).
After finishing up I notice that my pot belly is now gone. I'm flat enough to model swimsuits again. I'm _very_ hungry so I make breakfast. I lounge around for the rest of the morning. Around noon I have to go again and expel more worms. I must have had a really high parasite load. I bet these little fuckers have been stealing over half of the food I've been eating for years.
The story ends here as it's still in progress. I plan to take another 12-14mg dose of ivermectin in a week and a half. Then another maybe a month or so later. This is because it only kills adult worms and not their eggs or the larva. Which are no doubt raging through my system right now. I also plan to do a deep clean of the house. I've told people I've been in close contact with that they should probably deworm themselves too since I've no doubt been spreading the eggs around for years. Most roll their eyes and say they'd know if they had them. Well I don't think they would considering I was carrying them around for months or years without being aware of it. I plan to do at least twice yearly doses for the rest of my life. As I doubt it's possible to avoid getting infected again.
I am mostly posting this in the hopes that it will be helpful to someone so they don't have to go through all the trouble I went through. After talking with several doctors I know through fidonet all have told me that this is pretty common and everyone should be deworming at least once a year (once in early spring and again at the end of summer or in winter). This information has kind of been lost in the past few generations in the west. As my Great Grandmother's generation was very concerned about worms and that's the reason they'd often force the entire family to choke down things like castor oil. People say you can get by with stuff like pumpkin seeds and garlic instead. I'm not sure how well those kind of things work. But I do love garlic and plan to eat it more often going forward in my life.
I can not stress how much better I feel compared to just a week ago. All the symptoms that have been plaguing me for the last year and a half are gone. No more coughing. No more wheezing at night. No more pot belly. Haven't taken aspirin in days. I'm not longer constipated even when I take opioids. I no longer crave sugar. Even the pain in my joints I've suffered with for years has gone away. This truly is a miracle drug and it's a miracle that we even have it. You should read about the discovery of ivermectin some time. It was found in some soil in Japan and despite looking all over the world they've never been able to find it again. I hope it's never pulled from the market or no longer available OTC. I was very happy that I could buy it and it has reduced my suffering while living in this horrible place called Earth by at least a little bit. Although I do not buy into the claims that it can cure cancer or prevent certain viruses it wouldn't surprise me to find out that it's useful for things other than killing unwanted free loaders living inside our bodies.
Take care.
P.S: I forgot to mention this above but I wanted to add that within several hours of taking a dose of this drug it was like a "brain fog" had lifted. I don't know how best to describe it. It was like I'd been dumber than I was supposed to be for the last several years without realizing it. Kind of like the "brain fog" I had when I was taking methadone for many months to manage my opioid addiction. Perhaps the worms were really in my brain too.
I should also add that it's possible that parasite die off can cause seizures and other horrible effects depending on where they're living in your body. Once the worms die your body will start to attack them and things like your brain, living, kidneys, gallbladder and other organs can get caught in the cross fire. I took a risk by treating these at home without being watched over by someone with the proper equipment to do a full work up and manage such symptoms should they have appeared. I would have been overjoyed to have access to that kind of level of medical care. However, I am both too poor and in my experience the medical care where I live is very bad and the people in charge of managing it aren't very smart. You should spend a lot of time reading before attempting to self treat worms like I have. Best of luck to you dear reader.
After returning back home from a stint where I was forced to share living space with frankly nasty and insane people I had noticed I was not feeling very well. I was sucking down aspirin like it was going out of style, I was alternating between being bloated and constipated and having horrible diarrhea despite taking kratom near daily (I'm an addict, what can I say). I was regularly sick on the stomach and my belly had turned in a pot belly despite not being "fat" or regularly drinking beer. I was craving sugar hard and no matter how much I ate I always became hungry within an hour or so. I always woke up with a horrible cough which I thought was just years of smoking catching up with me. People around me said this was just part of middle age. But I felt so horrible compared to a few years ago that I didn't want to accept that as an excuse. My hair was also starting to turn white in places only to return to its normal color if I yanked those white hairs out. Something was horribly wrong with me.
Against my better judgement I went to a GP that I am not a fan of (he's a dumb fuck). All the usual tests were run. He found nothing. He tried to put me on anti-depressants and said my problems were just in my head. The usual spiel. With him. I pretended to accept his advice, fill the prescription then promptly tossed it in a drawer with the legions of other pills he's attempted to give me over the years. None of which are good (or fun).
A few weeks later I got my answer to what was wrong with me. I had been sucking down enough kratom for general pain around that time that I was frankly full of shit. So I was in the bathroom for awhile attempting to push out a massive log. As is my usual habit when I push out something I think might be impressive I sneak a peek at it before wiping and flushing it down to the septic tank. I noticed there was an odd looking bore hold coming out of one side of it. Like someone had taken a drill to it. I thought this was odd but didn't think more of it and flushed. I jumped in the shower because I had some place to be in about an hour and wanted to smell my best.
My usual habits in the shower are as such: Head, shoulders, arms, body, legs, feet, arm pits, then I address my dick and balls and finally my asshole. Asshole is always last for obvious reasons. I was in the shower about 20 minutes like usual. When I went to lather up my asshole I was met with a surprise.
A large white round worm about 6 inches or more long was suck to my butt hole. I first felt it through the wash cloth and being unsure what it might be I had to reach in with bare hands and grab it. It was folded over and obviously dead. At first I was unsure what I was looking at. But I'd seen these worms before when I de-wormed my cats and dogs over the years. I was disgusted. I had worms living inside of me and I knew there must be a ton of them if once came out on its own. I should have bagged it up and saved it to prove the GP wrong. But in my haste I dropped it and it went down the drain never to be seen again.
I finished up and left to my appointment. I wasn't really paying attention to anything happening because the worms were on my mind. I thought about the old Pink Floyd song, could the worms be eating into my brain? I wonder...once I got home I stayed up half the night researching worms and related parasites.
I decided that I must have something called Ascariasis (a roundworm called Ascaris lumbricoide). It fit all the symptoms and would explain my horrible morning coughing (it causes lung symptoms and being coughed up and swallowed is part of its life cycle). I also discovered that my parasite load much be very heavy. It was time to figure out what I needed to do to get rid of my uninvited guests.
There were several drugs and dosing guidelines suggested. Most of which were impossible to get unless I went through a GP or paid big money at a vet. I really wanted something OTC because I'd read tons of horror stories about people going to GPs for worms only to get referrals to shrinks and a blight on their medical records. Tons and tons of threads on places like reddit where smug know-nothings claim "We don't have worms in America!". As is this one country is cleaner than all the others or something. If I were anywhere else in the world I could have gotten what I needed for free. Even chocolate flavored! But I live in a hell hole run by "big pharma" where everything costs an arm and leg.
Looking around it seemed like ivermectin was my best bet. I could buy it cheaply OTC at the farm supply store. It didn't seem like it had many side effects. It only required one small dose with maybe a follow up dose a few weeks later. But this sent me down another massive rabbit hole on the internet. It seems like this drug has become very popular with both sides of the idiot consortium as of late. There were people claiming it cured cancer. People claiming they were taking upwards to 100mg a day. People claiming that it was totally useless. People claiming that even the smallest amount would kill me. People claiming that the kind for animals was somehow different than the kind that come in tablets for humans. There was ZERO useful information. But somehow somewhere among all this noise I found a jewel. It required using a Russian search engine and very carefully selected search terms. But on some far away blog someone actually posted something of value.
I set off to the farm supply store to pretend I owned a horse. When I got there I was sad to discover that the brand I wanted to buy was sold out. Seems we have a bunch of fans of apple flavored horse dewormer where I live. A cute little girl that was a big fan of horses rung me up. She commented on how popular this item was and tried to helpfully advise me to buy another brand (with multiple drugs in it) to kill "all the worms". She wanted to know what kind of horse I owned. I lied and told her that I was buying this for a cow. A half truth. I do own a cow but I'd never deworm it with paste (we inject them instead). Embarrassed and not wanting to admit that I was taking this myself I got out of there as quickly as possible.
I did some quick math to figure out how much ivermectin was in each squirt of this paste/syringe. I knew it wouldn't be 100% exact because it could have settled or otherwise not be equally distributed. But I figured it would be pretty close. I took the total weight of the paste and divided and multiplied until I figured out every notch on the plunger was about 4mg of ivermectin. Then I converted my current body weight to kg and I had my dose. About 12-14mg. I squirted out some of the paste, scraped the end level on the syringe, then squirted out three more notches worth on a rolling paper. I wrapped the paste in said paper then swallowed it like a tablet. I waited to see what would happen.
T+3 hours: All of a sudden I feel like I can breath again. Despite smoking like a freight train it's like I'm sucking down air for the first time. I'm hopeful that I'll wake up tomorrow and not be dead. I retire to bed.
T+11-12 hours: After a restful sleep I wake up surprised that I'm 1) not coughing up my lungs as usual and 2) not really feeling opioid withdrawal. I even hold off on taking kratom for several hours hoping that I'll pass the worms in my guts quickly. But I'm full of shit as usual from taking it so often. Instead of going to the bathroom right away like usual it takes many hours before I have a bowel movement. I inspect the logs and there are no worms in them. This is probably going to take away I guess. I read it could be as much as 10 days. I return to my normal routine.
T+24-120 hours: Not much to report other than I'm still feeling much better. Still no cough in the morning. Bowel movements are normal. I've seen no worms in my poop either. No major side effects from the ivermectin to report either. Maybe a very slight fever on day 2 and day 3 but not enough that I'm concerned. I chalk it up to parasite die off and not the drug itself. Most restful sleep I've had in years. Appetite has returned to normal. No craving for sugar even soda tastes overly sweet. Diet is now mostly whole foods and some meat instead of bread, candy, ice cream and pizza.
T+142 hours: I woke up and instantly knew I should probably find a place to have a bowel movement soon. My guts are bubbling and gurgling, no pain but I _really_ need to go. No cough either. I have a small dose of kratom and light up a smoke.
I'm on the toilet for at least 45 minutes and it just won't stop coming. Very loose stool. I had to flush 3 times. Stool consisted of some digested food and tons of half digested worms and pieces of worms. I know it isn't my "intestinal lining" like the fear mongers on the internet claim as I've seen that before from sticking drugs that I shouldn't have up my poop shoot. There are so many worms. I would post a picture but that'd be gross (and I didn't take one anyway).
After finishing up I notice that my pot belly is now gone. I'm flat enough to model swimsuits again. I'm _very_ hungry so I make breakfast. I lounge around for the rest of the morning. Around noon I have to go again and expel more worms. I must have had a really high parasite load. I bet these little fuckers have been stealing over half of the food I've been eating for years.
The story ends here as it's still in progress. I plan to take another 12-14mg dose of ivermectin in a week and a half. Then another maybe a month or so later. This is because it only kills adult worms and not their eggs or the larva. Which are no doubt raging through my system right now. I also plan to do a deep clean of the house. I've told people I've been in close contact with that they should probably deworm themselves too since I've no doubt been spreading the eggs around for years. Most roll their eyes and say they'd know if they had them. Well I don't think they would considering I was carrying them around for months or years without being aware of it. I plan to do at least twice yearly doses for the rest of my life. As I doubt it's possible to avoid getting infected again.
I am mostly posting this in the hopes that it will be helpful to someone so they don't have to go through all the trouble I went through. After talking with several doctors I know through fidonet all have told me that this is pretty common and everyone should be deworming at least once a year (once in early spring and again at the end of summer or in winter). This information has kind of been lost in the past few generations in the west. As my Great Grandmother's generation was very concerned about worms and that's the reason they'd often force the entire family to choke down things like castor oil. People say you can get by with stuff like pumpkin seeds and garlic instead. I'm not sure how well those kind of things work. But I do love garlic and plan to eat it more often going forward in my life.
I can not stress how much better I feel compared to just a week ago. All the symptoms that have been plaguing me for the last year and a half are gone. No more coughing. No more wheezing at night. No more pot belly. Haven't taken aspirin in days. I'm not longer constipated even when I take opioids. I no longer crave sugar. Even the pain in my joints I've suffered with for years has gone away. This truly is a miracle drug and it's a miracle that we even have it. You should read about the discovery of ivermectin some time. It was found in some soil in Japan and despite looking all over the world they've never been able to find it again. I hope it's never pulled from the market or no longer available OTC. I was very happy that I could buy it and it has reduced my suffering while living in this horrible place called Earth by at least a little bit. Although I do not buy into the claims that it can cure cancer or prevent certain viruses it wouldn't surprise me to find out that it's useful for things other than killing unwanted free loaders living inside our bodies.
Take care.
P.S: I forgot to mention this above but I wanted to add that within several hours of taking a dose of this drug it was like a "brain fog" had lifted. I don't know how best to describe it. It was like I'd been dumber than I was supposed to be for the last several years without realizing it. Kind of like the "brain fog" I had when I was taking methadone for many months to manage my opioid addiction. Perhaps the worms were really in my brain too.
I should also add that it's possible that parasite die off can cause seizures and other horrible effects depending on where they're living in your body. Once the worms die your body will start to attack them and things like your brain, living, kidneys, gallbladder and other organs can get caught in the cross fire. I took a risk by treating these at home without being watched over by someone with the proper equipment to do a full work up and manage such symptoms should they have appeared. I would have been overjoyed to have access to that kind of level of medical care. However, I am both too poor and in my experience the medical care where I live is very bad and the people in charge of managing it aren't very smart. You should spend a lot of time reading before attempting to self treat worms like I have. Best of luck to you dear reader.
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