Methamphetanonymous
Bluelighter
Hey sexy, God damn you'd look mighty fine right now slow gulping a big ole cup of water. Like a supermodel reducting your harm
Well, you know why I'm here in your guest bathroom shower seated criss cross applesauce. (beautifully executed tile work and grouting by the way, remind me to get your contractors #) That's right, we've got another meth mystery on our hands baby.
Go ahead and grab yourself a slice of toilet and pop a squat, and don't let me see the water leave your hand or I WILL scream.
A few days ago I picked up an 8 ball of meth which earned a visual analysis score of "yeah it looks like meth whatever" and the transaction authorized. Upon arriving home, I began to notice some unusually dramatic oddities about the physical behavior of the meth salt, and some physical side effects that are uncommon for me.
Some 'quirks' are normal in my experience with meth, and I've never noticed variations in the potency or physical properties of the salt that's stood out to my as warranting some investigating. Well never noticed any except once before this very spring. What really set my curiosity into motion however was that the other peculiar meth bag I purchased this year produced all of the same unusual side effects and physical abnormalities as the one I've got now. Every single one.
First of all, despite not appearing saturated or damp the shards of meth had a thin layer of dense sebum like oil on the surface which stuck to my fingers and even in a small amount was sending my autism into a panicked rage until washing my hands. As the shard melted down in the bowl, it instantly took on an evenly distributed piss colored yellow tint, and the refreezing was an uneven mess that finished with the appearance of that yucky semi-melted motor oil slush that builds up after a decent snow accumulation. The first inhale didn't seem unusual, but the second brought back a taste I had forgotten from the Spring sample. Like musky rank plumb of smell as you start tripling down on wearing the same socks for the third day mixed with a slight finish of vomit, while semi-dehydrated so it's tomato soup thickness and pungent. I was gagging towards the end of the bowl, and thats when I felt the worst side effect I've ever had from meth; small but burning and sharp lesions on the sides and far back of my tongue. My saliva was quickly thickening and becoming oily, and I pulled out two forgotten friends from the medicine cabinet: some gum and tongue oral anesthetic gel and a bottle of hydrating mouth wash for dry mouth. This tag team was what ended up giving me the most relief back in the spring when I had the twin back of meth. But the relief was short, only about an hour and by the time i5 wore off the tiny cuts were bubbling into swollen boils of agonizing pain. As what happened last time, I cried A LOT trying to swallow my lunch a few hours later. I was then greeted by painful waves of sickly nausea and bloating in my stomach that forced me to lay down on the couch shaking... until I suddenly shot up and projectile vomited nonstop into dry heaving thick slime lanyards of bile
What was happening? I have no issue admitting my criticism of this community to disregard abundant evidence of meth's consistently high purity and almost universally unadultered composition. Countless lab tests from many many various organizations across the planet that have crystal meth markets have indicated since 2020ish that street level samples of methamphetamine overwhelmingly are enantio-pure dextro-meth composing an essentially flawless 90-95% of the crystal, almost never a presence of an idententional adulterant agent, and impurity trace chemicals that all are expected as synthesis specific by products and intermediates. Meth enters the country at near pharma grade purity and potency, and arrives in the buyers hands in the same condition, and the lack of any GS/CS scans presented as evidence disputing literally every lab that's scanned meth in the last four years is clear.
But I began having a moment of doubt. Why are these incredibly strong reactions to smoking happening to my body only after ingesting meth with identical and glaringly unmistakable physical abnormalities? My eyes and memory were not mistaken; leaving me with a conclusion I never thought Id make; the mouth boils and aggressive digestive system unpleasantness were almost certainly happening for the same reason that the otherwise perfect meth salt shards were behaving strangely. A toxic impurity.
I decided to log into my computer and run down the real time forensic crackback analysis data stream from the heros at the 24/7 watchdog group r/meth. I was absolutely floored to be immediately presented with the last piece of evidence I needed to reach an undeniable conclusion; I scrolled through dozens and dozens of posts over the last three days of slushy bright yellow crackbacks in the bowls of many other meth users who picked up product during the same week.
Alright; without a doubt something occurred at or near the production level of a recent large scale superlab cook that's resulted in an abnormal impurity of some kind that does not react well within the body.
But what? Personally I think that the normalization of users just typing in the name of some cutting agent they only know exists from some other brainless Reddit comment as an explanation for any kind of symptom, absorption rate, mood, small and uninteresting batch to batch disparities, and obvious lack of skill with a lighter and calling it a day is just carelessness... but were they right?
I've seen a cutting agent that went out of style in the late 90s blamed for every single positive and negative symptom of being high on meth over the last two years. I've seen a chemical that's never been a production cut in meth EVER blamed for expected deterioration and decreased meth effects towards the end of multi day binges. And of course, sleep deprived meth heads are always eager to blame their persistent exhaustion on fentanyl. An opioid that would kill a meth smoker with zero tolerance in under five minutes if an amount smaller than a sand grain was present. Why does everyone think vaporized and smoked fentanyl instantly entering the brain just induces a little bit of the nap time yawns. I'm not ready to entertain a cutting agent theory yet I don't think.
With many many possibilities for accidental contamination and errors in chemical reaction steps that could be to blame; this is the step that should always be first ruled out unless lab scans of street samples begin showing a common adulterant being added to meth. My first hypothesis was the same as the one I speculated on after receiving the twin bag in the spring. The slushiness, strange familiar taste, light coating of heavy but liquidy oil... perhaps the heavy fog and rain conditions across the US snuck a few drops into the meth as it was smuggled and distributed here and there, which would raise the melting point temperature enough to just slightly cook the meth yellow. Maybe the water reacted with the salt to release some of the bonds as meth freebase oil? Supposedly it is a very caustic freebase and a slimy oil...
I went about setting up some drying conditions and left the product to it overnight. By morning I felt vindicated, as my crystals felt crisp and brittle, and the melt down and puffs stayed bright white with high contrast cracks forming resembling shattered glass. No taste, no aggravation of my mouth blisters. No problem.
I went about some chores thinking about my write up and drying solution, and a few hours later I went for my redose and had a moment of confusion like I had dreamt my wake up sesh entirely: my crack back was a damp mushy applesauce slush, and it's uniform yellow tint added to the visual comparison. I forgot to seal my medicine bottle, and thanked God a cat didn't knock it over but was cut short. The meth in the bottle was glisting with that yucky feeling oil, and some of the smaller shards almost appeared to be crumbling apart like they were dissolving. What the fuck is happening.
For whatever reason I took a deep sniff of the product in the medicine bottle and a foul rank smell greater my nose, near identical to the taste from the yellow stuffs vapor. This time, that annoyingly familiar connection I couldn't make yesterday hit from a memory less than 24 hours old. It smelled like the taste of the clumpy slime strands of stomach bile I dry heaved. Weird. I don't know how the answer came together all at once for me just a few seconds later, but everything fell into place.
Hydrogen chloride gas, hydrochloric acid. One of the final steps of every single methamphetamine synthesis no matter the route or precursor is reacting an acidic gas with the highly alkaline meth freebase oil, rearranging the molecular bonds into a solid glittery powder that only required being dissolved in a solvent left to slow evaporate and draw out the famous chunky shards of crystaline salt. The preferred acid used in the majority of pharmaceutical ly prepared chemicals is hydrogen chloride gas, one because it is cheap and easily and abundantly produced. And two because orally ingested medicines are garunteed to have no strange reaction to the digestive system since human stomach acid is the same chemical but liquid, hydrochloric acid. The bile.
For some reason, the recrystalization lab responsible for converting the freebase oil into meth salt and then drawing out crystalline shards was under the pressure of time. Clandestine operation, it makes sense that operators may have been spooked about law enforcement or a rival gang. After being gassed with the acid- the beige solvent damp slush is spread to allow the solvent to fully evaporate, dragging excess hydrogen chloride out of the soggy mess with it. But if lab operators used some external process like a low heat or powerful fan in order to speed up what is supposed to be a slow natural evap, the soggy soft salt slurry would dry and solidify faster than the hydrogen chloride would need to waft out... and thousands of near microscopic bubbles of caustic and volatile acidic gas were now trapped and sealed into the shards, and once dissolved again to grow the longer crystals, the trapped acid overbonded with the salt in solvent.
The end product then would be powerfully acidic. Enough to burn soft sensitive membrane flesh, and enough is being released in my blood stream to acidity my pH causing the digestive system aggression, and dissolving into my saliva causing the watery enzyme soup to become a dilute hydrochloric acid solution. I had acid saliva. No longer sporting the properties of H20, the skin in my mouth rejected absorbing it. My mouth is coated in liquid, but dry as a bone because the liquid isn't water.
And the slippery dense oil and crystal structure failure of the product shards... salt already is in the range of hydroscopic; a word that describes a substance that is so water soluable that it absorbs water from the air. All salts dissolve excellently in water, but some are so weakly hydroscopic that they stay stable when exposed to air, but others absorb so much water out of the air that they begin melting and evaporating away; giving a chemical a shelf life of only minutes or hours.
Hydrochloride salts typically are very lightly hydroscopic and remain stable even in heavy humidity, and are then rendered even more stable by adjusting the pH to be near neutral, which also is tolerated safely and efficiently by all human body pH conditions. Acidity raises hydroscopy, since acids are extremely water soluable. The meth I purchased due to a simple corner cutting modification was now a salt with an pH strip reading of 3. No wonder I was receiving chemical burns in my mouth.
I went online and pulled up the archives of The Hive, a ghost town of 1990s problem solving discussion on chemical reactions. I typed my keywords into the search bar, and my theory was given validation by multiple threads and comments describing mistakes in drying the precipitate slush resulting in meth overgassed with acid.
The descriptions all were identical to my experience and purchased product. One topic was discussing how easy of a mistake it was, and mused whether this extremely acidic meth salt vapor and conversion of saliva to hydrochloric acid would destroy the mouth and teeth of users in under a year, and brushing wouldn't even help as the acid saliva being freshly replqced would remain caustic for an hour or two after kas5 ingested.
Boom. Another fat L for N-Iso, sleepy dope, racemic meth, and MSM
Alright so, despite knowing and understanding synthesis chemistry for meth like I'm Walter White, that's where my bragging rights immediately drops dead.
I'm sure if I really dug around there's some explanation of how to raise the extremely acidic salt I have up to near neutral, but it's not something that I've been able to quickly get a hit on.
If I had to guess, dissolving the crystals in a solvent like methanol, and sprinkling in baking soda and monitoring with pH strip til I hit my mark and leave to air dry to try and reform some decent size shards would work?
I don't see why dissolving the salt into a small amount of water and then evaporating the water either with low heat or air dry wouldn't work.... right? The overly acidic salt would give It's excess acid bonds to the water and then it would dissolve out?
I don't have on hand or time to purchase a solvent that can dissolve meth so
Can I just sprinkle a light dusting of powder baking soda into my storage bottle and exexpect it to release the excess acid with no dissolving? Or maybe add just a drop or two of water with the baking soda, enough to work it in but little enough to fan dry quickly?
Halp.
And with that, another meth mystery is solved.
Well, you know why I'm here in your guest bathroom shower seated criss cross applesauce. (beautifully executed tile work and grouting by the way, remind me to get your contractors #) That's right, we've got another meth mystery on our hands baby.
Go ahead and grab yourself a slice of toilet and pop a squat, and don't let me see the water leave your hand or I WILL scream.
A few days ago I picked up an 8 ball of meth which earned a visual analysis score of "yeah it looks like meth whatever" and the transaction authorized. Upon arriving home, I began to notice some unusually dramatic oddities about the physical behavior of the meth salt, and some physical side effects that are uncommon for me.
Some 'quirks' are normal in my experience with meth, and I've never noticed variations in the potency or physical properties of the salt that's stood out to my as warranting some investigating. Well never noticed any except once before this very spring. What really set my curiosity into motion however was that the other peculiar meth bag I purchased this year produced all of the same unusual side effects and physical abnormalities as the one I've got now. Every single one.
First of all, despite not appearing saturated or damp the shards of meth had a thin layer of dense sebum like oil on the surface which stuck to my fingers and even in a small amount was sending my autism into a panicked rage until washing my hands. As the shard melted down in the bowl, it instantly took on an evenly distributed piss colored yellow tint, and the refreezing was an uneven mess that finished with the appearance of that yucky semi-melted motor oil slush that builds up after a decent snow accumulation. The first inhale didn't seem unusual, but the second brought back a taste I had forgotten from the Spring sample. Like musky rank plumb of smell as you start tripling down on wearing the same socks for the third day mixed with a slight finish of vomit, while semi-dehydrated so it's tomato soup thickness and pungent. I was gagging towards the end of the bowl, and thats when I felt the worst side effect I've ever had from meth; small but burning and sharp lesions on the sides and far back of my tongue. My saliva was quickly thickening and becoming oily, and I pulled out two forgotten friends from the medicine cabinet: some gum and tongue oral anesthetic gel and a bottle of hydrating mouth wash for dry mouth. This tag team was what ended up giving me the most relief back in the spring when I had the twin back of meth. But the relief was short, only about an hour and by the time i5 wore off the tiny cuts were bubbling into swollen boils of agonizing pain. As what happened last time, I cried A LOT trying to swallow my lunch a few hours later. I was then greeted by painful waves of sickly nausea and bloating in my stomach that forced me to lay down on the couch shaking... until I suddenly shot up and projectile vomited nonstop into dry heaving thick slime lanyards of bile
What was happening? I have no issue admitting my criticism of this community to disregard abundant evidence of meth's consistently high purity and almost universally unadultered composition. Countless lab tests from many many various organizations across the planet that have crystal meth markets have indicated since 2020ish that street level samples of methamphetamine overwhelmingly are enantio-pure dextro-meth composing an essentially flawless 90-95% of the crystal, almost never a presence of an idententional adulterant agent, and impurity trace chemicals that all are expected as synthesis specific by products and intermediates. Meth enters the country at near pharma grade purity and potency, and arrives in the buyers hands in the same condition, and the lack of any GS/CS scans presented as evidence disputing literally every lab that's scanned meth in the last four years is clear.
But I began having a moment of doubt. Why are these incredibly strong reactions to smoking happening to my body only after ingesting meth with identical and glaringly unmistakable physical abnormalities? My eyes and memory were not mistaken; leaving me with a conclusion I never thought Id make; the mouth boils and aggressive digestive system unpleasantness were almost certainly happening for the same reason that the otherwise perfect meth salt shards were behaving strangely. A toxic impurity.
I decided to log into my computer and run down the real time forensic crackback analysis data stream from the heros at the 24/7 watchdog group r/meth. I was absolutely floored to be immediately presented with the last piece of evidence I needed to reach an undeniable conclusion; I scrolled through dozens and dozens of posts over the last three days of slushy bright yellow crackbacks in the bowls of many other meth users who picked up product during the same week.
Alright; without a doubt something occurred at or near the production level of a recent large scale superlab cook that's resulted in an abnormal impurity of some kind that does not react well within the body.
But what? Personally I think that the normalization of users just typing in the name of some cutting agent they only know exists from some other brainless Reddit comment as an explanation for any kind of symptom, absorption rate, mood, small and uninteresting batch to batch disparities, and obvious lack of skill with a lighter and calling it a day is just carelessness... but were they right?
I've seen a cutting agent that went out of style in the late 90s blamed for every single positive and negative symptom of being high on meth over the last two years. I've seen a chemical that's never been a production cut in meth EVER blamed for expected deterioration and decreased meth effects towards the end of multi day binges. And of course, sleep deprived meth heads are always eager to blame their persistent exhaustion on fentanyl. An opioid that would kill a meth smoker with zero tolerance in under five minutes if an amount smaller than a sand grain was present. Why does everyone think vaporized and smoked fentanyl instantly entering the brain just induces a little bit of the nap time yawns. I'm not ready to entertain a cutting agent theory yet I don't think.
With many many possibilities for accidental contamination and errors in chemical reaction steps that could be to blame; this is the step that should always be first ruled out unless lab scans of street samples begin showing a common adulterant being added to meth. My first hypothesis was the same as the one I speculated on after receiving the twin bag in the spring. The slushiness, strange familiar taste, light coating of heavy but liquidy oil... perhaps the heavy fog and rain conditions across the US snuck a few drops into the meth as it was smuggled and distributed here and there, which would raise the melting point temperature enough to just slightly cook the meth yellow. Maybe the water reacted with the salt to release some of the bonds as meth freebase oil? Supposedly it is a very caustic freebase and a slimy oil...
I went about setting up some drying conditions and left the product to it overnight. By morning I felt vindicated, as my crystals felt crisp and brittle, and the melt down and puffs stayed bright white with high contrast cracks forming resembling shattered glass. No taste, no aggravation of my mouth blisters. No problem.
I went about some chores thinking about my write up and drying solution, and a few hours later I went for my redose and had a moment of confusion like I had dreamt my wake up sesh entirely: my crack back was a damp mushy applesauce slush, and it's uniform yellow tint added to the visual comparison. I forgot to seal my medicine bottle, and thanked God a cat didn't knock it over but was cut short. The meth in the bottle was glisting with that yucky feeling oil, and some of the smaller shards almost appeared to be crumbling apart like they were dissolving. What the fuck is happening.
For whatever reason I took a deep sniff of the product in the medicine bottle and a foul rank smell greater my nose, near identical to the taste from the yellow stuffs vapor. This time, that annoyingly familiar connection I couldn't make yesterday hit from a memory less than 24 hours old. It smelled like the taste of the clumpy slime strands of stomach bile I dry heaved. Weird. I don't know how the answer came together all at once for me just a few seconds later, but everything fell into place.
Hydrogen chloride gas, hydrochloric acid. One of the final steps of every single methamphetamine synthesis no matter the route or precursor is reacting an acidic gas with the highly alkaline meth freebase oil, rearranging the molecular bonds into a solid glittery powder that only required being dissolved in a solvent left to slow evaporate and draw out the famous chunky shards of crystaline salt. The preferred acid used in the majority of pharmaceutical ly prepared chemicals is hydrogen chloride gas, one because it is cheap and easily and abundantly produced. And two because orally ingested medicines are garunteed to have no strange reaction to the digestive system since human stomach acid is the same chemical but liquid, hydrochloric acid. The bile.
For some reason, the recrystalization lab responsible for converting the freebase oil into meth salt and then drawing out crystalline shards was under the pressure of time. Clandestine operation, it makes sense that operators may have been spooked about law enforcement or a rival gang. After being gassed with the acid- the beige solvent damp slush is spread to allow the solvent to fully evaporate, dragging excess hydrogen chloride out of the soggy mess with it. But if lab operators used some external process like a low heat or powerful fan in order to speed up what is supposed to be a slow natural evap, the soggy soft salt slurry would dry and solidify faster than the hydrogen chloride would need to waft out... and thousands of near microscopic bubbles of caustic and volatile acidic gas were now trapped and sealed into the shards, and once dissolved again to grow the longer crystals, the trapped acid overbonded with the salt in solvent.
The end product then would be powerfully acidic. Enough to burn soft sensitive membrane flesh, and enough is being released in my blood stream to acidity my pH causing the digestive system aggression, and dissolving into my saliva causing the watery enzyme soup to become a dilute hydrochloric acid solution. I had acid saliva. No longer sporting the properties of H20, the skin in my mouth rejected absorbing it. My mouth is coated in liquid, but dry as a bone because the liquid isn't water.
And the slippery dense oil and crystal structure failure of the product shards... salt already is in the range of hydroscopic; a word that describes a substance that is so water soluable that it absorbs water from the air. All salts dissolve excellently in water, but some are so weakly hydroscopic that they stay stable when exposed to air, but others absorb so much water out of the air that they begin melting and evaporating away; giving a chemical a shelf life of only minutes or hours.
Hydrochloride salts typically are very lightly hydroscopic and remain stable even in heavy humidity, and are then rendered even more stable by adjusting the pH to be near neutral, which also is tolerated safely and efficiently by all human body pH conditions. Acidity raises hydroscopy, since acids are extremely water soluable. The meth I purchased due to a simple corner cutting modification was now a salt with an pH strip reading of 3. No wonder I was receiving chemical burns in my mouth.
I went online and pulled up the archives of The Hive, a ghost town of 1990s problem solving discussion on chemical reactions. I typed my keywords into the search bar, and my theory was given validation by multiple threads and comments describing mistakes in drying the precipitate slush resulting in meth overgassed with acid.
The descriptions all were identical to my experience and purchased product. One topic was discussing how easy of a mistake it was, and mused whether this extremely acidic meth salt vapor and conversion of saliva to hydrochloric acid would destroy the mouth and teeth of users in under a year, and brushing wouldn't even help as the acid saliva being freshly replqced would remain caustic for an hour or two after kas5 ingested.
Boom. Another fat L for N-Iso, sleepy dope, racemic meth, and MSM
Alright so, despite knowing and understanding synthesis chemistry for meth like I'm Walter White, that's where my bragging rights immediately drops dead.
I'm sure if I really dug around there's some explanation of how to raise the extremely acidic salt I have up to near neutral, but it's not something that I've been able to quickly get a hit on.
If I had to guess, dissolving the crystals in a solvent like methanol, and sprinkling in baking soda and monitoring with pH strip til I hit my mark and leave to air dry to try and reform some decent size shards would work?
I don't see why dissolving the salt into a small amount of water and then evaporating the water either with low heat or air dry wouldn't work.... right? The overly acidic salt would give It's excess acid bonds to the water and then it would dissolve out?
I don't have on hand or time to purchase a solvent that can dissolve meth so
Can I just sprinkle a light dusting of powder baking soda into my storage bottle and exexpect it to release the excess acid with no dissolving? Or maybe add just a drop or two of water with the baking soda, enough to work it in but little enough to fan dry quickly?
Halp.
And with that, another meth mystery is solved.
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