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Ive never done Psychedelics before

ThizzMon$teR

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But I've always wanted to experiment with them. I'm afraid of a bad trip though. And everyone always tells me its all in your head if you have a bad trip and me being me,, I have a fucked up mind state sober. So I'm wondering should i even go near them or just stay away. If not then whats a good Psychedelic to start off with, maybe one that's not very intense.
 
Eh, toughie. I dated a complete psycho chick who took 7 hits of good Cali LSD and she pretty much just wandered around for a while, sat and had a conversation with a big tree for an hour or two, and then went home and scribbled some abstract art and wrote me a letter. More than mindset is set and setting, activities and people. There is also intent. Intent takes presidence over all else, and if your intent is to have a beautiful breakthrough experience and you can remain calm (you can try Xanax or something similar a few hours beforehand if that's your thing) then you might just find a little bit of heaven. That's not to say that you will not at any time during any trip fall into a dark place that is difficult to get out from, just find ways to keep hold of reality. Just take 2-3 hits of whatever, or a half eighth of shrooms, etc. Don't go nuts your first time, of course that is just common sense I figure.

Not all psychonauts have to be 'sane'.
 
Psychedelics are a great way to explore your own mind, and if you have to question whether or not thats something you should really be opening and exploring, I dont quite think psychedelics are for you just yet.

Be comfortable with who you believe you are, then dig deeper to find out what truly lays beneath.

If you're not stable, or just arent ready for the exploration of the void, wait it out, they'll always be there.

I just wouldnt dive into psychedelics until you're comfortable with yourself and your surroundings.


You're going to make up your own mind though, so ill answer your second question as well.

I always think the 2C-x chem are a great way to dive into psychedelics, but then again im a definite phenethylamine man. 2C-B, 2C-C, and 2C-D are all very mellow, very upbeat, but also pretty deep and very psychedelic. They're also easily controlable and easy on the body. For a first timer, this is what I usually suggest.
 
StingRei said:
Eh, toughie. I dated a complete psycho chick who took 7 hits of good Cali LSD and she pretty much just wandered around for a while, sat and had a conversation with a big tree for an hour or two, and then went home and scribbled some abstract art and wrote me a letter. More than mindset is set and setting, activities and people. There is also intent. Intent takes presidence over all else, and if your intent is to have a beautiful breakthrough experience and you can remain calm (you can try Xanax or something similar a few hours beforehand if that's your thing) then you might just find a little bit of heaven. That's not to say that you will not at any time during any trip fall into a dark place that is difficult to get out from, just find ways to keep hold of reality. Just take 2-3 hits of whatever, or a half eighth of shrooms, etc. Don't go nuts your first time, of course that is just common sense I figure.

Not all psychonauts have to be 'sane'.
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I would agree with this whole post 100% except for, that if you are getting quality LSD, you definitely should need 2-3 hits for your first time. 1, or even less than 1 tab of quality LSD is going to be extremely powerful.

That being said, whenever tripping, I always try to keep the mindset that it is only a drug that I consumed, and these are only the effects. Also, having a watch, a television, etc... help bring me back to reality when things get a bit hazy, though I prefer to trip outdoors without my phone and all that stuff anyway. Like you said, it is all in your head, your mind can play some crazy tricks on you, but they are just that, tricks. :P Have fun, and good vibes.
 
Yeah I understand what your all saying. Honestly I know I'm not ready for Psychedelics yet so Ima wait awhile before trying them. But currently in my life things are very good and I'm comfortable with who I am, there's just a few things I gotta sort out. Thanks for the advice everyone.
 
I did LSD for the first time about a month ago. It was what you right now would refer to as a "bad" trip. However, when you really get down to it, what is bad? Sure I had a shitty time but that's only because of my mind...which is why I probably would never take LSD again. However, a lot of people have life changing, great times on LSD so I think you should do it if your over 21. Under 21 I'd say save it for later.

Also, start with 1 hit. 1 shitty hit may suck, but 3 powerful hits has a high probability of turning bad for a first time user, although this does not neccessarily mean it will.



rules of LSD, IMO

1) GOOD SET AND SETTING (e.g. take it with your most trusted companion, definitely not at a party or with a bunch of douches)
2)Don't worry! You'll be dead in awhile anyway so anything "embarrassing" that happens won't matter 3000000000 years from now.
3)Reality check! (Example: dang, it's probably not a good idea to make a gorgeous fire out of that tree because we have to worry about lame reality. Oh well, something else...).
A clock is a good reality checker as well, because time will have no meaning at all when on LSD.
4)Have water bottles around. I find acid to be more speedy than speed.
5)GO WITH THE FLOW.
6)Have fun!
7)Cars are real.
8)Reality check!

Optional (different views for these):
I would reccommend not smoking weed the first time. Save it for another time. If you smoke cigarettes, bring a pack, but don't neccessarily smoke them. Remember, they kill. GABA agonists (e.g. alcohol, benzos) are good to have in case you want to semi-abort the trip/mellow it out.

Lastly, this ----> "I always try to keep the mindset that it is only a drug that I consumed, and these are only the effects."
 
CallMeGod. said:
I would agree with this whole post 100% except for, that if you are getting quality LSD, you definitely should need 2-3 hits for your first time. 1, or even less than 1 tab of quality LSD is going to be extremely powerful.
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This is imo the biggest problem with acid. Some of it is weak as shit and you need 2-3 hits to get anything you could call a trip, some of it is made of epic win, and some of it is a DOx instead of acid, that taking 2-3 hits of could be dangerous.

That said, I think LSD (1 hit of decent acid), if you know the strength and know it's real acid, would be the best first trip. Acid

The 2C's are good intro psychedelics imo - but they're sort of hit or miss, some people get body load from them, others don't, and some find them too stimulating. The one that most everyone agrees on is good, 2C-B, is unfortunately illegal and harder to get. Someone who didn't mind the stimulant effect of 2C-I would probably find that a good first trip. 2C-C is friendly too, in terms of people not disliking it, but it's a bit lacklustre compared to the others, qualitatively. And, i always have neutral-negative trips on 2C-D...
 
Thizzerfershizzer said:
Psychedelics are a great way to explore your own mind, and if you have to question whether or not thats something you should really be opening and exploring, I dont quite think psychedelics are for you just yet.

Be comfortable with who you believe you are, then dig deeper to find out what truly lays beneath.

If you're not stable, or just arent ready for the exploration of the void, wait it out, they'll always be there.

I just wouldnt dive into psychedelics until you're comfortable with yourself and your surroundings.


You're going to make up your own mind though, so ill answer your second question as well.

I always think the 2C-x chem are a great way to dive into psychedelics, but then again im a definite phenethylamine man. 2C-B, 2C-C, and 2C-D are all very mellow, very upbeat, but also pretty deep and very psychedelic. They're also easily controlable and easy on the body. For a first timer, this is what I usually suggest.
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good post thizz.
ill just add LSD at a lowish dose (~100ug) is also a good intro to psychs.

when you feel ready, go for it.
and even if you feel a little hesitant, as i do often, if you've prepared yourself correctly (look into set and setting) you will most likely have a very rewarding experience.

<3
 
yeah, ive been wanting to try LSD as well but had 2 difficult mushroom trips and am kind of afraid to try any psyc again.

yet i am very intrigued about what a proper trip is like, people talk about pure bliss and everything. i feel as though im afraid to let go of reality because i fear loosing my mind. the moment i start feeling as though something is wrong or different i start feeling anxious.

i guess im not ready for trips at this point in my life but im so keen for one haha
 
I also have a hard time letting go of reality, I think it has more to do with feeling like I'm letting go of life though.

Just trip with one friend that you can be comfortable with and trust, they'll help keep the trip enjoyable. Really though the main things that matter are your mindset and the environment, don't trip where you might have to deal with anything stressful/worry bout getting caught at all. As long as you don't do any really high doses none of your trips should be anything to be scared of.
 
yeah set and setting get to me as well. i almost have this perfectionist view of setting, every time ive encountered a drug its never been somewhere i consider comfortable. its always in someones car or someones house and never anywhere im familiar with. i have trouble accepting where i am
 
i was scared to try it too. I really dont think i would have ever had the balls to try acid. One morning after a rave I was invited to a apartment with a group of friends and newly met friends. I drank their water and than later i found out i was not supposed to because it was dosed. I tripped lightly but it was really amazing. From there i began my experimenting.


I reccomend 2c-c if you can get a hold of it. It is very light, about 15-20mg if your really cautious.

On the other hand if you can get acid or shrooms just try one dose. should be good. 1 tab or 1/8 shrooms. 2c-i isnt bad too
 
So after doing a lot of research about acid I decided to try it sooner than I thought. I know I'm ready and my mind is already set. I still have doubts but who doesn't and hey I had doubts about trying many other drugs but most have turned out to be great. So now I'm just preparing myself by getting healthy and straightening out my mind. Late December is when ill be taking it. Its actually not that far away if you think about it.
 
I still have doubts but who doesn't
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If you have doubts, do not proceed. Seriously, tripping is a great experience but theres no need to potentially harm yourself just for a drug.

That said, I have found that embracing the weirdness of psychedelia helps you to embrace the weirdness of your mind. Or my mind.

Or anyones mind.
 
I definitely find that set and setting are most important. When you trip for the first time, do it somewhere where you feel very comfortable when you're not completely yourself, often people suggest you have a trip sitter for your first trip but in all honesty I think that is a bad idea with the majority of psychedelics as with many psychedelics you'll get very paranoid around people that aren't tripping - and sometimes even those that are. Particularly if it's your first time.

A couple of others have suggested 2C-*s and these would be a good start, however I'd also like to voice a recommendation for 4-AcO-DMT, as I have tripped it on several times now, including my first ever psychedelic experience, and no matter what set/setting I'm in, the experience is always overwhelmingly good, I've yet to have any "bad vibes" on it - 2C-E on the other hand can get quite scary in the wrong setting. The only thing I will say is if you do take 4-AcO-DMT, do it alone somewhere safe and friendly, as it is one of the chemicals that isn't ideal for being around other people.
 
Thats one of the reasons I feel I’m ready for psychedelics is because I have the perfect set and setting were its just me and a couple really good friends.
 
bad trips seem to be brought on by something, ive had nothing but positive thoughts on any psychedelic drug. ive never had a bad trip though. well ive had neutral thoughts on 2CE and 2CT2, but those arent especially happy giggly chems like acid or 2CB.
 
It's normal to have doubts before tripping. Ive tripped about 50+ times and before each trip you become anxious, and doubtfull on wheather you should have dosed or not.

If your in a great setting with good mates around you, all you need to do is keep the mood positive(which is farely easy on LSD I find, Mushrooms are tougher) and after 1.5 hours you should be starting to trip nicely.

Look forward to the effects and you'll have a great time no doubt :)
 
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