enoughorangejuice? said:
anyone ever IV valium pills? i'm sure its bad for you, just wondering if anyones done it with the 10mg valium's? obviously 10mg in a pill that weighs probably 150-200mg is a bad idea b/c most of what your injecting is fillers/binders but then again i've shot 15mg roxicodone's before... just curious....
Absolutely no, in addition to the reasons you mentioned, Valium, like most benzos, is not water-soluble (emulsion is a pain in the ass and unhealthy), and also like most benzos, has 90%+ oral bioavailability. Eat the pills! I use cimetidine with them. Though typically not a good idea, a little booze will fuck you up even more.
Back on topic, use only the pharm-grade vials labeled for IV/IM use. If you are looking for a rush, you will be disappointed. Plus they are a pain in the ass with their 2ml/10mg strength. Had to use a god damned 10ml harpoon to shoot 40mg some time ago! There was a well...a
immediate relaxation of sorts, but no real rush as compared to other drugs, and certainly not something worth the vein damage. I'm not talking substance irritation here, I didn't feel any real burning, but my main injection site totally is totally fucked (left arm crook), because of maybe only 4-5 midazolam and/or diazepam injections and those friggin needle gauges! Well... can't complain much, my own fault

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As of now, I'm attributing my disappointment with IV Val to my tolerance. Instead of injecting like a contortionist (for me, the underside of my forearms have the only remaining veins left that can pertrude and have the size to handle the gauge required), I'm giving all benzos a break, giving my veins a much needed rest, and reassess later. Have the stuff; might as well use it to it's best :D.
BTW don't IM it, the first time I was given it I let a doc do it that way...now
that fucking burns. The next time he came to give me my 'shot', I literally grabbed the syringe from him pointed to my vein, and said "You do it here, or I do it here, and you get the fuck out." He saw things my way in the end, (at least that's how it worked in the country I was visiting, hehehe). Now I just buy them myself (vials and syringes myself, that is, legally all the more!). But the dilution of the stuff just really puts me off

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Nonetheless, I will give it another try in the future by itself. I doubt it'll be much of a difference

. However, I can see maybe good potential in conjunction after a stim or with an opi (but most people already know that anyway

).