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Opioids IV Question (getting over injection nervousness)

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cay

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Over the last month I've wasted about $40 dollars in .22mu filters trying to get over the nerve of putting a needle in my arm. I have to ask you guys, how do you do it? How do you get over the nerve of putting a needle in your vein at a 15degree angle then pushing it in. Is there any tricks you guys did to get over that?
 
The reason you are so scared is because you know it is dangerous and is something your brain is telling you don't want to do (on some level that is). Perhaps IVing is not a road you actually want to go down?

If you are sure though a lot of people will start by getting someone else to shoot them up first. Then once they are used to getting a needle stuck in their arm they can do it themselves in a steady and safe manner.

I don't really know what harm reduction this thread has...
 
It didn't really phase me.

I would encourage anyone considering IV usage to reconsider, because it's hard to know what'll happen in response to the experience. Addiction is very easy to acquire when IVing drugs, and if you get bored or tired of what you're doing, it's easy to say "screw this drug, or this other one, I'll do this one, or combine 2 or 3 drugs in a single shot"...

I just thought I would say this because it really did not phase me. It's not extremely painful to stick a 31 gauge needle in your vein.

I wish I was more able to have thought twice about starting.
 
^ 2nding that putting a needle in your vein is not painful. if it is you are either doing something wrong or using a dull needle.
you might get a sting sensation right at the beginning from rubbing alcohol left on the skin from cleaning before shooting. but that is all you should feel.. DO NOT stick the needle in and then fish around for a vein.. find the vein and THEN put the needle into the vein.
I'm not going to go through the whole IVing process, there is a thread on it somewhere.
 
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When i got to the stage where i had to IV cos i couldnt afford it i actually had panic attacks due to injecting, the way i got past that was valium and once i was used to it i stopped freaking out and making a mess of my self so much
 
First time i shot up i was drunk as shit:o

After that i got a bit jittery when i first tried... luckily i registered quickly that time..
subsequent times i still got shakey and extremely frustrated when i'd missed 8 times and pushing it back in stung, but i did and it was worth it;)

28 and up gauge syringes are best imo, smaller is almost always better.


After about a week of repeated attempts i found where my veins generally were and how to bulk them up without a tourney.

Theres nothing particularly wrong with fishing around for a vein... so long as you do it right, ie: when going from left too right you've got too pull the needle almost out of the skin and then change direction and push back in again.
Otherwise you'll push your vein around(causes bruising) and blunt the syringe.

Another thing is too understand the physics of creating a vacuum in the syringe too push the needle tip into the vein and register.


also a 15' angle :?
you got it all wrong bruh

godspeed
 
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While the allure of IV drug use can be very mysterious and potentially wonderful, if you cannot get over the mental barrier of stabbing yourself with a stainless steel pin to get high, you may be better off.

Honestly, if you can avoid using the needle you will be much better off in the future. I speak from experience. I wouldn't go out of my way to try and conquer the mental barrier.. Don't take benzos and try to do this, since shooting dope on top of benzos is even more dangerous, especially if it is your first time.
 
I have no problem injecting other people but idea of injecting myself is disgusting even if it would be a solution meant IV use. I cant understand it but it keeps me off doing IV with pills. I have no fear for needles when someone practised nurse does it for me for example blood tests or administration of Oxanest post surgery. But still I would not IV myself or let some other junkie do IV for me with solution cooked up from pills. Too much worrying of inactive ingredients blocking my veins or getting an OD.
 
If your hell bent on injecting drugs, you should have someone who actually knows what their doing show you step by step in person so you don't mess anything up and hurt yourself... that's how I did it... but ultimately I recommend not doing it... speaking from personal experience... its no joke, your chances of becoming an addict, or worse of an addict or injuring yourself is very high compared to eating and smoking and snorting stuff... stay safe :)
 
cay said:
Over the last month I've wasted about $40 dollars in .22mu filters trying to get over the nerve of putting a needle in my arm. I have to ask you guys, how do you do it? How do you get over the nerve of putting a needle in your vein at a 15degree angle then pushing it in. Is there any tricks you guys did to get over that?
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A) You need someone experienced to show you. Not only because they will be able to demonstrate and possibly preform it for you, but they will more than likely be able to do it for you, your first time. After that, believe me, you will want nothing more than to keep doing it. Not to mention you don't want to drop out without someone with you.

If you are dead set on doing it yourself, find a vein on your arm, generally one of the large veins on the inside of your elbow. After you've filled the needle with about 45 units (assuming you're using a 29 gauge 1/2 CC BD Needle... the way to go).... leave about 5 units clear. Make sure to clean the area very well with alcohol. And then inject the needle in at an angle POINTING you, and definitely not straight up and down. When the blood starts rushing in to fill up that air pocket, you're in the vein. Slowly push down until the needle is clear, put it down, pick up the alcohol swab and put it over the injection area and try to clean up your works before you nod out.

And I know we're not supposed to be preachy here or anything, but....

B) Because you will inevitably want to keep injecting yourself, it's a really stupid idea. It's all fun and games until one day you realize you aren't just doing it for fun anymore and you're spending $100 a day going to bad parts of town, getting burned, all of the social stigma, not being able to have a normal day without shooting up in the morning. And by then, you're not even getting high, you're just maintaining and staving off withdrawals.
 
drzoidbergphd said:
good advice. also you could start administering intramuscularly first and then graduate to IV after you become comfortable with the process and help save your tolerance in the meantime.
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even if a solution has been micron filtered it's a terrible idea to IM inject. you're inviting an abscess to form at the very least. the only drugs that should be IM'd intentionally are those which are marketed for IM use, ie liquid vials.

IMing isn't going to save your tolerance much either as most the "mainstream" drugs have a similar bioavailability to that of the IV route.

also a 15' angle
you got it all wrong bruh
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what's wrong with a 15 degree angle? you want the bevel to be as parallel to your vein as possible. you're not fucking literally stabbing yourself at a 90 degree angle.
 
IVing drugs provide the most euphoric and wonderful feeling in the world (IVing cocaine, heroin, meth, etc) however karma bites you in the ass, over time your veins collapse, u end up spending an hour poking at ur arm finding a vein to register, and when u do ur all bruised up, 85% chance of getting HEP C, very contagious, cottons, spoons, torinettes. Also ya can drop deap as soon as u pull that needle out ur arm rather heroin, or too much cocaine, to pure. Abcesses and infections, and the mental desire to shoot up anything u can do (i was shooting ritalin, dexedrine, ambien, clonidine, crack, heroin, suboxone, fnetanyl) talk about health risks long term or instant death!

I sggest u all, never to to touch the needle, most people dont make it back...
 
leftwing said:
what's wrong with a 15 degree angle? you want the bevel to be as parallel to your vein as possible. you're not fucking literally stabbing yourself at a 90 degree angle.
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except for the crook of the elbow that is a ridiculously sharp angle to be hitting at unless your veins clearly bulge out of the arm like a bodybuilders.

At the crook of the elbow its no longer at a 15 degree angle either because you're aiming at a vein thats curving upwards.

By all means go for that angle if you can.. but between 20' and 45' is more realistic depending on the position.
 
I used to tremble as soon as I started cooking [I know, cooking = bad]; I had to hold the spoon with both hands.

Re whether this is harm reduction: well, if the OP is going to do it anyway, better s/he/it doesn't botch it.

If your hands shake, rest the needle-holding hand on your forearm when you do the shot. Hold the needle near the top so you can flag for blood and then push the hammer down without adjusting your hand position (if you move your hand there's a risk of accidentally letting the needle out of the vein).

and, of course, don't.
 
titstypedthis said:
except for the crook of the elbow that is a ridiculously sharp angle to be hitting at unless your veins clearly bulge out of the arm like a bodybuilders.

At the crook of the elbow its no longer at a 15 degree angle either because you're aiming at a vein thats curving upwards.

By all means go for that angle if you can.. but between 20' and 45' is more realistic depending on the position.
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Actually 15 degrees is pretty reasonable. The books say IVs are supposed to be started at a 45 degree angle, but that's asking for the vein to blow. Yes, it's more difficult to start one on yourself than on someone else, but I typically try to keep the needle as close to the skin as possible. It's less painful and you have more room inside the vein to manuever, meaning less chance of poking through the other side of the vein.

I agree with what's been said about the needle gauge. Itty bitty needles hurt way less, but they are also more flexible and can bend so much that it can be difficult to stick successfully. I usually use a 22 or 24 gauge needle, primarily because I don't have access to anything smaller.
 
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