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IV pod tea?

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threeoneg

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First off, I'm just going to state that I wouldn't really ever consider doing this unless it was proven to be safe, and the effects were worthwhile.

But a couple days ago, the idea of IV'ing pod tea popped into my head. Like if you concentrated a normal dose of pod tea, into like 60 units or so of liquid, could you bang it safley? It does sound ludicrous, but I couldn't think of any real reason why you couldn't, seems like it would work. What are the potential complications of doing this, if any?
 
The real reason why you couldnt is, even if you concentrated it down to a workable amount of product (60 units, as you suggested) is there will still be plant matter in it, and you do not by any means want that shit getting in your veins. Think about this: the cuts that are in street heroin can be harmful themselves. Its never a good idea to IV street drugs for this reason. You can look around here and find stories of people missing shots of heroin and the abscess and shit that followed...they arent fun. Imagine missing a shot of poppy pod tea. I dont want to think about the shit that could come out of that.

And it isnt even just missing shots. Thats also why you have to filter heroin shots the best you can. The particulate matter left in the solution can possibly do some damage down the road to your circulation if you let it in your veins, and filtering doesnt even really get rid of all of it. I cant even imagine want damage plant matter floating through your veins could cause.

Basically, it could be done, fuck, anything can be IVed, but that does not by any means at all mean it should.
 
in pod tea, it contains all kinds of opiates am i right? morphine, codiene, thebaine, not to mention countless others? doesnt IV'ing codiene lead to pulmany adema or something of the like? sounds like a real bad idea to me
 
ChemicalSmile said:
DONT DO THIS! God wtf are you people thinking.
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Did you just happen to skip over the part of the post where i'm all like "I WOULD NEVER DO THIS UNLESS IT WAS COMPLETLEY SAFE AND THE EFFECTS ARE WORTHWHILE"

Jesus. It was just a question, chill out.
 
IForgett said:
The real reason why you couldnt is, even if you concentrated it down to a workable amount of product (60 units, as you suggested) is there will still be plant matter in it, and you do not by any means want that shit getting in your veins. Think about this: the cuts that are in street heroin can be harmful themselves. Its never a good idea to IV street drugs for this reason. You can look around here and find stories of people missing shots of heroin and the abscess and shit that followed...they arent fun. Imagine missing a shot of poppy pod tea. I dont want to think about the shit that could come out of that.

And it isnt even just missing shots. Thats also why you have to filter heroin shots the best you can. The particulate matter left in the solution can possibly do some damage down the road to your circulation if you let it in your veins, and filtering doesnt even really get rid of all of it. I cant even imagine want damage plant matter floating through your veins could cause.

Basically, it could be done, fuck, anything can be IVed, but that does not by any means at all mean it should.
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It's not possible to filter out most/all of the plant matter? Again, I'm going to reassert, I'm not trying to do this or anything. I'm a month clean from IV tar use. Just curious as to what the complications of this would be. And if it is safley possible at all.
 
You can't do this.

First off, too much particulate matter. So much, that filtering wouldn't really cut it.

Secondly, alot of water-soluble matter you don't want to IV in pod tea. Codeine and thebaine are two, for example. Injecting these substances will cause pulmonary adema, ie, water in your lungs. Very lethal.

Third, LOTS of proteins and rough enzymes that are in any organic matter, even plants, and even poppy pods and PPT. If you inject proteins, your body may go into shock as a reaction. Your antibodies will go crazy and into hyperdrive, which is never a good thing. A good chance they may end up attacking your own body.

A good rule of thumb for IVing is don't inject codeine & similar (hydrocodone for example), don't inject particulates, and don't inject proteins.

Edit: At least see the third rule. That's why you couldn't do this, not even theoretically.
 
threeoneg said:
It's not possible to filter out most/all of the plant matter? Again, I'm going to reassert, I'm not trying to do this or anything. I'm a month clean from IV tar use. Just curious as to what the complications of this would be. And if it is safley possible at all.
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I know youre just asking a hypothetical question, I never implied otherwise.

No, its not possible to filter out 100% of it. If somehow you did, you would lose tons of other shit that you want to be IVing.

Also, as said already that completely slipped my mind when I first replied, Codeine and Thebaine are two opiates you do not want to put in to your veins.
 
Hm. Thanks theo and iforget. Those are the answers I was looking for. I never knew that you could not IV codeine. Actually I have never even done codeine. The first op's I ever got into were methadone, followed by black tar(kinda backwards?)so It could have never really done anything for me. Is thebaine used anywhere else, besides in pod tea, or maybe raw opium?
 
Thebaine is used as the raw ingredient to make a slew of pharmecuetical opioids. The idea is that oxycodone and such opioids have less abuse potential and less recreational value than morphine and more 'popular' counterparts.

If someone can say why I'd appreciate it, the reason slips my mind. I think it's lower afinity to one of the opioid receptors that is more related to pleasure.

Anyways, I wouldn't say filtration is the biggest issue at all. You can easily use a micron filter, coffee filters, and more so make poppy seed 99% free of particulate matter. I mean, it'd be a joke if you were naive enough to think that this is the sole reason IV pod tea can't be done, and then you go shoot up some dope you bought off the street handled by broke-ass drug dealers. I'm sure they never dropped that shit on the floor and made sure to wash their hands, and that all their cuts are water soluble, and that the dope has been in sterile environments when it was handled, made, cut, and bagged 8)

Its the protein matter that I'd be worried about. It can cause asphlytic (sic) shock, extreme antibody reactions, et cetera. Cotton fever, for example, is a minor case of such a reaction, your body's natural defenses going into overdrive. Many symptoms of sicknesses are such caused by similiar things, such as flu and the cold, and many viral and bacterial infections really.

You can read a horror story or two where someone accidentally sucks up some animal blood or leftover gravy material, thinking it's just some dope they spilled out of the spoon, and deeply regretting their shortsight...
 
It is possible, I've done it. Is it worth it? Hell no! In the interest of harm reduction I won't go into the details here but lets just say it was a VERY long process to remove the codeine, plant matter, and concentrate it enough. I suppose at that point it wasn't poppy tea anymore, but actually extracted morphine from poppy tea.
 
Yes, definitly not safe. I suppose in a pinch you could plugg it, not that anything enters my ass, lol.
 
saucy2040 said:
^^^
and is the process required to do that worth the result?
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Not by a long shot.

And, I believe that it is common in parts pf Russia as well. Chernaia is one name for it.
 
xxanxxtwo said:
Not by a long shot.

And, I believe that it is common in parts pf Russia as well. Chernaia is one name for it.
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Chernaia means BLACK in Russian by the way..... 8o
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
Anyways, I wouldn't say filtration is the biggest issue at all. You can easily use a micron filter, coffee filters, and more so make poppy seed 99% free of particulate matter. I mean, it'd be a joke if you were naive enough to think that this is the sole reason IV pod tea can't be done, and then you go shoot up some dope you bought off the street handled by broke-ass drug dealers.
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I never meant to say that is the sole reason you cant IV pod tea. Im well aware its not, I was just stating it as one of the minor issues that could be reason enough to not want to do it.

Also, not everyone has access to micron filters. Ive been a heroin addict for a little less than 4 years (i know its not super long) and I have never even seen one.

TheodoreRoosevelt said:
You can read a horror story or two where someone accidentally sucks up some animal blood or leftover gravy material, thinking it's just some dope they spilled out of the spoon, and deeply regretting their shortsight...
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You need to give me a link to that. I have to read it. That sounds terrible.
 
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