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IV Hydromorphone generic "M's" with WEAK results already Utfse

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So I have been trying to IV these M2's and M4's for a few days now with very little to no success. NOW before I begin I will say I have searched on bluelight and google amongst other sites for 3days before making this post.[/B ]

Quick background I'm a 2yr IV Heroin user (and many other opiate/opiod pharms before the H). Anyways this is my First session with Dilaudid outside of the hospital. And just prior to a week ago I had never injected pills, just H. So I know how to prep and properly adminster drugs via IV so that's not the issue. My issue is that when I do bang these dillies I don't feel shit.

I'm on 64mg hydromorphone daily along with 75mg Morphone sulfate aka Ms. Contin (all oral). I haven't touched the H in 2 months. So my tolerance is strictly the above pharms, now I will list my methods of trying to get and effect out of these with dosage.

1st) I did 6mg(3 of 2mg M's) broken into ¼'s then smashed to a fine powder on a dvd case, then scraped it into a reciept off the case then by transferring to the spoon. Add 60units of water, stir witha plunger add a filter and suck it up, 60units returned bang it and felt a ok rush. (felt it hit the heart like the real liquid iv shit does.)

2nd) same method as 1st but with 12mg (2 of 2mg M's and 2 of 4mg M's) 100units of water. 90units return. Bang feel nothing.

3rd) same dose as #2 but instead of prepping all the crushed pills in one spoon I tried another bluelighters method by doing it in 3 parts. So 4mg crushed in the spoon put in 100units of water mix etc then toss in cotton and suck it up. Then clean spoon drop next 4mg crushed in spoon use the same water that already has 5mg in and suck up the next 4mg etc until I have 12mg. Still feel nothing.


I am now wondering if maybe some of the hydro morph is sticking to the dvd cover. So now I take a big spoon drop 10 2mg pills in the spoon all of em in 1/4's. crushed em all with another spoon ontop of it.. all of the material stayed in the spoon added 100units of water mixed thuroughly and dropped in the cotton sucked it up..hit a vein without an issue and again..felt only just a little.

Is it just my tolerance or my methods or what. cause I am not feeling this amazing rush that people say tops heroin. As of right now if we say a good heroin rush with pins n needles and makes you nod is a 10 then the dilaudid rush that I have felt to date with said methods has been a 2- 2.5

Please HELP!!!!!!
 
Well lets just do a little math here...

You were taking 64mg of Hydromorphone orally everyday. The BA of oral Hydromorphone is somewhere around 30-35%. Let's say 35%, so you're brain was only receiving approximately 22.4mg.

You were also taking 75mg of Morphine orally everyday. The BA of oral Morphine is somewhere around 30%, so you're brain was only receiving approximately 22.5mg.

So in short, you are not doing enough to break through your tolerance. Since IV BA is always 100% (assuming you get it all in your shot) you would need to take 22.4mg of Hydromorphone and 22.5mg of Morphine IV to equal your daily oral doses.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but it makes sense to me...
 
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Appreciate the response, so if the biggest ones I have are the 4's then I should shoot for maybe 28mg. That would be 7 pills though does anyone know if 100 units of water will successfully absorb all the hydromorphone? There is so much pasty shit left.

I just did another 20mg run with 5 4mg pills put 1cc in and only got roughly .80 cc back. With no results so I will step it up to 28mg and see how it goes.
 
no dice on the 28mg shot barely felt shit, got some decent after effects for a high but as for the rush = nada
 
You shot 6, 12, 12, 20, and 28mg all within 10 hours? (judging by post date/times)
Personal experience tells me that's the problem right there; you'll get drastically diminished returns on successive hits with D's unless you space them apart much further (4-6 hours). The fact that you felt an 'ok rush' from the 6mg and pretty much nothing from the rest, all bigger shots, supports this idea~
 
Hey man, I have found that morphine blocks the rush of hydromorph for about 24 hours after the last dose. Try dropping this and going another 4 hours without taking any opioids (or 12 hours after a long acting) and then give it another round, I think you'll be surprised.
 
Thats weird. I do an 8mg shot and i get a great rush. Everyones tolerance is different though. Mine is limited to 20-60 dollars worth of almost pure tar a day. But still holy shit, i could not imagine taking a hydro shot that big
 
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