It's not the cut at all. And it's not coke, either!

[Le Junk]

It's not the cut afterall, but it's not cocaine either!

I have previously consumed my fair share of threads on the topic of what possible coke cut was being used that made you feel like crap? I, along with everyone around me would do about two or three lines and start feeling edgy immediately. What little euphoria we were feeling would wear off almost immediately followed by introversion, difficulty in speech, difficulty putting sentences together, geeked out, paranoiad, anxious etc.

I had always stated, with much disagreement from some Bluelighters, that is was a particular cut being used that made you feel this way. Well, I would like to go on record as saying I WAS WRONG! I had assumed all along that the substance I was consuming was at least cocaine, cut with an undesireable substance that would exhibit these negative syptoms.

I never imagined in a million years that the substance I had been doing all of these years in Indianapolis, as well as Chicago, Dallas, Miami, Cincinnati, L.A., Cancun, Aruba along with many others, contained absolutely no cocaine at all! It was actually just a mixture of ephedrine mixed with procaine.

After having done real coke for 10 years and loving every minute of it, I all of a sudden noticed a major difference in what I was getting. It smelled, tasted, and certianly felt a lot different than real cocaine. It was like I was actually paying to be miserable!

I spent alot of time and energy trying to find the so called "mystery cut", and alot of time and wasted money trying to purify something that wasn't even there in the first place!

How did I come to this engenious conclusion? I ordered actual police feild testing kits from a company called Evident. They supply most police agengies with these packets as well as schools and individuals. Each packet contains three individual vials. You place a small sample of the supposed substance into the bottom of the packet, close it, and then break one vial at a time as stated in the instructions. It must follow all three color changes in order to contain ANY cocaine hcl. Well, it flunked! But, I also ordered three different testing kits for what I considered to be possible cuts and they were PCP, methamphetamine, and ephedrine.

Well, it passed the ephedrine test with flying colors! I would then have to assume that the numbing agent was just procaine, lidocaine, benzocaine etc.

I immediately called my friend in Orlando, Florida who had just gotten ahold of some of the usual type of junk we always get. I told him to save some and I would send him these four packets. Bam, there she was again! Good ole' ephedrine.

It is now my conclusion that there is probably a very large cartel producing a mix of ephedrine and procaine and passing it off all over the country as cocaine. Think about it.......it looks like coke, smells pharmacuetical, numbs and gets you high. They do it with ecstacy, why not coke. It's all about the money, and we're all suckers!

By the way, I just got back from a 2 week trip to Costa Rica. The coke there is still very real, and very cheap. I took my packets there also. Guess what? It passed.

 

[swybs]

to all the nonbelievers

I knew it!!! I knew it!!! All of you nonbelievers (see the previous threads). I am soooo sick of people responding that we (the truth seekers, those who know TRUE coke) don't know what we are talking about or are doing too much coke. You CAN never do TOO MUCH GOOD COKE. What you can do is get adulterated coke, even from great sources. America has been overtaken with dealers cutting coke, even "good coke" with something--and now le junk has proven to us that it is prob. some ephedra and something else.

Which goes to show that certain feelings that we (the educated and intelligent ones) were feeling the exact feeling of a shitty caffeine/ephedrine-based cut.

Rejoice, and now let us figure if there is a way to cook of the cut (no, rerocking does not cut out the ephedra-based crap).

You go, le junk. Thank you for spending the $$$ to prove a point.

swybs

 

[K'dOUTinAZ]

^^^

Slow down buddy, your wetting your pants!

 

[Le Junk]

swybs,

It was my pleasure! (and $$$ of course). I guess I was always putting the cart before the horse by assuming that cocaine was already in what I was getting.

I would have never thought that it didn't contain any at all. It really is difficult to purify or extract cocaine out of a mixture that doesn't contain cocaine, if you know what I mean!

I really am convinced that this is of a much larger scale than we can imagine. It really is just all about the money.

 

[MaliceNwunderland]

This again?

Relax swybs. The only thing Le Junk confirmed is what most people here said:...he's been getting dawg shit cocaine. That doesn't mean coke in th US is all ephedra, it means Le Junk was getting crap product. I don't buy the global cartel conspiracy stuff. Bring your little tester to your next dealers house and don't buy it unless it passes. (Personally, if I tooted a line of lidocane+ephedra, I don't think I'd be fooled.)

Good to hear you got some decent cocaine! Where'd you end up going in Costa Rica?

 

[naturalone]

I haven't done coke in over a year and a half, and haven't had a really good binge in a couple of years. But, still, congrats on listening to your body and investing the time/energy/money into figuring that out. That's awesome, because now you know the truth.

And, I agree that it is probably on a MUCH MUCH larger scale than just a couple of local dealers doing it. Ever since 9/11, the importation of narcotics has gotten more and more risky, and because of the Patriot Act, dealers are no longer assured that they'll be out of jail within 24 hours of being arrested...the lawyers have their hands tied by the unconstitutional doings of the current American administration.

chances are the street level dealers don't even realize what they are selling. they're still asking the same prices on the streets, and paying the same prices to the middle-men. the middle-men are probably in on it, because they KNOW what they are dealing. they're probably making a killing with this shit.

i'm babbling and hypothesizing, but i think that it's cool that you figured this out, and that you were able to show that it's not just a local/regional thing, but more of an epidemic.

nice job Le Junk.

 

[Le Junk]

Jaco, Costa Rica. It's on the Pacific side and freakin' awsome!

I do also feel that most dealers here don't really know what they're selling, either. Alot of them don't even do the drug (if they want to make any money, that is).

I'll keep re-ordering these packets and testing everything I get to keep you informed of the results. They are a little pricey, but I'd rather pay that than do any junk.

 

[Dr Feelgood]

Well what do ya' know. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Le Junk! I knew it, it just had to be something like this. Your right, if they do it with ecstacy, why not coke? It is a multi-billion dollar business a year and I really don't think they're to concerned with how enjoyable our buzz is, as long as we continue to buy what they're selling. It is a sad, sad story. Where exactly do you get these test kits? It might actually change things if more people started using them like they do with ecstacy?

 

[AznRaver]

do you guys know how awful ephedrine burns? It's hard to believe coke is cut with ephedrine. And why would a police field drug kit test for ephedrine which is a legal supplement? i've got a vial of procaine and ephedrine hcl. i'll let you guys know if this is even a feasible substitute for yayo!

 

[negrogesic]

^^^Yea.

The effects of cocaine and ephedrine are very distinguishable and i dont know how you could confuse one with the other, despite the local anesthesia...

 

[Le Junk]

Listen,

I've done the tests and they are available for a multitude of different substances for whatever reasons.

Look up evidentcrimescene.com and see what I'm talking about.

As far as distinguishing the difference between the two, I have always been able to do that. That was never in question. I just thought at the time, before I became informed, that it had been cut with something undesireable. Now, I know that most of the shit I was getting contained absolutely no cocaine at all.

 

[goldenbrown]

i'm babbling and hypothesizing, but i think that it's cool that you figured this out, and that you were able to show that it's not just a local/regional thing, but more of an epidemic.

nice job Le Junk.

He hasn't proven anything. All Le Junk has done is prove that the coke he gets is a crappy mix of ephedrine and procaine. So, he gets shitty coke, sucks for him. But I can't even imagine how you got from his post that he cracked the American Cocaine mystery, and that it is somehow all a big conspriacy. I highly doubt this extends even beyond counties, I bet it is from select dealers in select towns that sell this combo.

Furthermore, there are just WAY too many cocaine users in the US to not notice that their "cocaine" is a fucking topical anesthetic mixed with ephendrine. I really don't believe it, because I have taken ephindrine before, and the "buzz" I got from it was fucked up, super speedy, and basic crap, not to mention my heart was pouding through my chest after the tiny bit I did, ONE time. When I first tried cocaine, it was NOTHING like that time I used ephedrine.

As well, the cocaine I used has the proper half-life of 30-60 minutes, I can get to sleep 2-4 hours after my last line w/o much trouble, it numbs considerably well, it has a processed chemical smell, much like one would expect from clandestine made coke, and it has a pearlescent appearance. It also always came in rocks. Not to mention, my new connection sells gooey yellow coke, the best I've ever seen or tried, and it compared to the stuff I first got, only more powerful in numbness and euphoria.

So, there you have it. As far as I'm concerned, nothing has been proven. How do we even know he's actually done this, and not just trying to prove us all wrong with a little thought out trick? I'd like to see pictures of you using the test kit, doing your process and with the packets you get.

 

[goldenbrown]

Oh yeah, and here is my experience with Alcohol. When I first began using it, I would become a social genius, extroverted, able to converse well with males and females alike (something I was horrible doing with both sexes when sober), I'd feel damn euphoric, and very horny. My body would be warm, and I'd be always waiting for the next beautiful girl to talk to. When she came by, I'd go right up and talk to her, no problems at all, Alcohol was my party elixir, social anxiety would be banished when I hit the bottle.

Fast forward 3 years. Now when I drink alcohol, I don't get very horny at all. It doesn't do anything for my confidence really, as far as just walking up to cute girls and striking up convo's go, though it does relax me. Sometimes it even gets me very emotional and depressed, for no reason really, and I'll start crying. I usually just like to sit down or lay down when I drink now, as it makes me tired, not energized and euphoric like it used to. I don't really feel like talking to people from either sex, instead I want to sit down in a safe place, so I can feel comfortable at least (socially comfortable, not physically).

So, I'm wondering what the hell ingredient did the Alcohol companies take out of alcohol, not to mention, what did they replace it with? Certainly I haven't become tolerant to its positive effects on my mood, or have I? I do believe I have, alcohol simply doesn't do it for me anymore, I've had too much, I took a big break, and now it just isn't for me.

I expect that is much of the same reason for your recent experiences with coke. It's like after a 5 days straight binge, where you only feel the negative effects now, the positive ones are no where to be found. Except for you, it was actually a 10 years straight of using, and now, at the end of it all, your body is only interpreting the coke's negative effects. Think about it.

 

[Le Junk]

Goldenbrown, please! I've purchased the four different tests. Two for cocaine hcl and base, one for pcp, one for methamphetamine and one for ephedrine. Each box contains 10 individual packets. I bought two of the cocaine boxes because I figured I'd be using that particular test more often. For your reservations concerning this issue, tomorrow I will do just as you've asked due to the fact that I still have enough of that junk left. This is much bigger than you think! Are you from the New York City area, by chance? According to the DEA, NYC has the highest purity levels of cocaine in the country. So, if by chance your from that area, theres a good chance you've never gotten this junk.................................yet!

 

[Le Junk]

Think about this. I just got back from Costa Rica and did outstanding cocaine for five days straight, with no negative feelings at all, just exhaustion and hunger by the end. Same exact great feeling as I used to get off of the cocaine here. Think about that! Hum?

 

[Ketamike]

I'm from NJ and maybe I haven't "gotten this junk... yet"

Has anyone who agrees with Le Junk ever IVed this geeky stuff?

Better question... anybody here ever had the balls to IV ephedrine? I remember reading some poster in ODU say 'If it would disolve in water, I injected it.' My guess would be that ephedrine wouldn't give you a ringer.

Would procaine make you fail for cocaine with a Nida-5... one small line made me miss postive the next day.

Le Junk... didn't you sample cocaine from all over this country? Was your luck just that bad?

 

[Le Junk]

Ketamike,

I do think that I have an uncanny ability to be able to seek out and find this junk anywhere, at anytime.

Don't get me wrong, occasionally I do get real stuff here and will definately know it! I'm not saying either that all of the samples I've tried didn't contain some real cocaine.

Bare in mind, that these are just two tests confirming ephedrine. Like I said, I will continue to test everything I get (though I only do blow about once a month, now) and keep posting the results.

 

[Le Junk]

Check out this website: evidentcrimescene.com

Anyone can order these, and I would suggest they do. It wouldn't hurt and you never know what you might find!

 

[groovee]

Wouldn't the easiest way to tell if you have real coke or not is to cook it?

 

[robd]

didn't u notice with the ephedra shit that u weren't fiending for more?