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It's been almost a year... I'm finally gonna roll again! Few questions!

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SteamRollerX

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My friend is not sure whether he has MDMA or MDA, it's definitely one of the two from the test results he said to me. I've heard that MDA is speedier and more of a party-like drug, and that MDMA is more mallow and kick back. Here are my questions:

1) I heard MDA requires a higher dose to take effect. Is this true?
2) Does MDMA relax you as opposed to make you want to dance?
3) I've read on this forum that Piracetam preload is recommended. I've also read that it should be 2 hours before rolling by some and 7 hours of before by others. Some have said that I'd you take it too early. It can negatively affect your roll!

Thanks for the replies!
 
1) I heard MDA requires a higher dose to take effect. Is this true?
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Its difficult to answer this question but the more important issue is MDA is quite trippy and strong so people tend to take a smaller dose than MDMA. I would advise 50mG and work up. Some will disagree with this I am sure. many pills in the 90s had these kind of doses and they worked fine dont be fooled by trying to stack everything up against defqons bombs etc all at 200mG+ as these doses in my opinion are not good or safe reference measures.

The exact dose required for MDA or MDMA to take effect I dont know. At a guess I would say about 30mG for MDMA and possibley 20mG for MDA.

In order to answer these questions with accuracy it requires clinical trials on multiple people. Unfortunately because we are talking an illicit drug rarely trials like this are carried out.

PIHKAL is quite a good source for dosing and effect type analysis for both MDA and MDMA. I often use this source for my own debating discussions but as pointed out this is still only the opinion of one person. An intelligent person yes but also an older person so you can only seek multiple opinions and draw your own conclusions.

2) Does MDMA relax you as opposed to make you want to dance?
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From my own experience this depends on a few things.

a - Dose
b - Crystal or Pills (Crystal in majority of cases I have found more mellow)
c - Environment & Social Setting
d - Adulterants (often in pills but can sometimes be in MDMA crystal)

3) I've read on this forum that Piracetam preload is recommended. I've also read that it should be 2 hours before rolling by some and 7 hours of before by others. Some have said that I'd you take it too early. It can negatively affect your roll!
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This has very mixed views. I would say its a 50/50 thing. Some report success others report it kind of neutralises the roll. I cannot speak from personal experience as I have never tried it so you will likely have to experiment.

Personally I would focus more on a lot of exercise, supps and general good health prior to rolling. 5HTP or Ltryptophan can also help pre load. Check out this link for more info.

http://www.rollinballzcrew.com/preload.shtml

Just go easy with MDA if you have never taken it before. I find it very different to MDMA. If you get the dose of MDA too high it can be quite unpleasant.
 
Hello steam, id say if you've not rolled for a year, your dose will highly depend on your mdma quality and purity.

The mdma i take is very high quality crystal and when i take around 60 days between i found 100mg gave me happiness, smiley jaw, nearly fully blown pupils and great empathy and feelings towards all my raver mates.

Im 5 months 2 weeks break from mdma, so i will dose around 90mg.

I would suggest probably 90/95mg for yourself maybe (Im quite sensitive to mdma luckily haha) , what is your usual dose?
 
Darksidesam said:
Hello steam, id say if you've not rolled for a year, your dose will highly depend on your mdma quality and purity.

The mdma i take is very high quality crystal and when i take around 60 days between i found 100mg gave me happiness, smiley jaw, nearly fully blown pupils and great empathy and feelings towards all my raver mates.

Im 5 months 2 weeks break from mdma, so i will dose around 90mg.

I would suggest probably 90/95mg for yourself maybe (Im quite sensitive to mdma luckily haha) , what is your usual dose?
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I'm about 270lbs and 6'4. So I might try about 150mg to start. I might also think not to try to use too many supplements. If it might have a chance to neutralize my roll. I won't risk it :o

Thanks guys!!
 
Im lighter and few inches shorter than you, so yeah your dose may have to be a bit higher, you might get overwhelmed from 150mg on that long of a break though, on a 40 day wait that gave me full blown pupils and nailed me to a pillar just smiling for an hour.
lol

what about 125mg?
 
As for dosing, who knows if its pure? Can't really help you there :x


MDA for me gave me pretty amazing hallucinations.
While MDMA gives me a much more intense body high.

I would say they both make me pretty stimulated and ready to dance. I can easily relax at the same time. MDxx stimulants are wonderful for that reason.
 
Renz, im just thinking OP has taken a long break, imagine if it was really nice pure stuff and the comeup is a bit too heavy.
Better to be slightly underwhelmed than very overwhelmed eh
 
I'm not in the UK, I've had pure stuff only once.
*shrug*

I also usually carry GHB or benzos for accidental over stimulation.
 
lol i was lucky only had to get to source no.3 and i was set for life lol
I never had luxury of stuff to calm me down from over stimulation, No good when your new to it and lost your mates at a festival , first time at a festival with thousands of people and your coming up on a 180mg pill
 
Darksidesam said:
lol i was lucky only had to get to source no.3 and i was set for life lol
I never had luxury of stuff to calm me down from over stimulation, No good when your new to it and lost your mates at a festival , first time at a festival with thousands of people and your coming up on a 180mg pill
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Probably had the best roll of your life after that though huh?? Taking shit to calm you down just makes you miss out on the fun times you could of had later :p

an MDxx overdose is amazing IMO lol. Sure, you might be anxious for the first half hour or so, but once you peak and you start melting into the floor you'll be more than happy!
 
Well if I knew the contents and the doseage I wouldn't have any anxiety about it. It's just not knowing and consuming something.

Texas is also notorious for mixing meth in everything. Swallowing .2 of meth is not my idea of a good time.
 
Yeah folley i did, i had great company, shaking my hands and telling me i was gonna be fine but its a strong experience really sorted me out and i did, went with it and enjoyed it.

It wouldnt have went as well if i didnt meet my friends again though lol
I doubt i would have even made it home lmao
 
When I'm on MDxx, I'm a little lost puppy wandering around the festival looking for his friends.
Then I just say "fuck it" and meet new ones.
Then I lose them.

and that's the story of how I got so many facebook friends.
 
I'm not 100% sure whether the stuff is pure. 1 pill of that I think is about 150mg. It's the size of the old pokeballs...

I just remember taking 5 mint sized pills in a night and feeling minimal rolling. That's part of the reason I stopped for a while... Though I was told those mints were MDMA low.

These I'm told are pretty strong and advised I should start with half. Though I thought my size might've make a difference... I'll assume these are a medium a hit. Maybe I'll start with 1 pill.
 
Renz Envy said:
When I'm on MDxx, I'm a little lost puppy wandering around the festival looking for his friends.
Then I just say "fuck it" and meet new ones.
Then I lose them.

and that's the story of how I got so many facebook friends.
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The story of my first MDMA experience at a festival. Haha
 
Just found out that it is indeed MDA!

I've browsed through the threads here of the differences between MDMA and MDA... and I understand it's speedier and more psychedelic, but something still confuses me:

I've heard you can get "floored" from too much MDA. How is that possible if it's speedier? Wouldnt you be moving around more as opposed to being floored? Maybe I'm not understanding the full meaning of floored...
 
Actually, I need time to edit it that report.

The Simmons test came out very light blue because I used too much of the pill itself and little of the tester. I retested it with even amounts of the tester and pill... And I got "Simmons: No reaction". This was recent. I took the advise to retest it because of the odd results. Now I'm sure it's MDA. Possible MDA + MDMA maybe...
 
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