The driving of Palestinians from their land in 1948 is a fact and not a good one, although it was often done less with force and more with coercion (although violence and murder were indeed employed). But something like 800,000 Arabic Jews were expelled or fled from surrounding Arabic countries to Israel in the 1950s and these Jews aren't massacring the citizens of those countries. Clearly, it is possible to face historical injustice with something other than genocidal vengeance. As nearly every other group of people wronged in the past do today, except for some reason, the Palestinians.
It's almost like there is something 'special' in the culture of Palestinians that makes them less willing to moderate the manifestation of their legitimate grievances and more willing to use violence.
Um yeah that's Muslim culture in general, or what we turned it into:
Never forget that this war has been going on since the first Crusade. Actually even sooner than that
The Palestinians, or Arabs in general, never really had a chance to become more down to earth. We keep murdering them in the tens/hundreds of thousands. So you have to excuse them when they want to kill infidels. Infidels keep killing them and taking their land. Also infidels occupied the fucking Holy Land. Do you not understand how important that is to them? They owned it for 1300-1500 years dude. It's their friggin Holy Land. And they were kicked out of it
It's pretty self-explanatory. And you can't really dumb it down like this. Are we not doing genocides? Did the Americans not slaughter 99% of Native Americans? Did Germany not kill millions of Jews? Am I imagining the Armenian genocide? Did NATO not bomb Yugoslavia? Didn't America attack Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan, killing over half a million civilians? You know just because we don't call what we do genocides, doesn't mean other countries don't think so. As of December 30th, Israel killed 22,000 CIVILIAN Palestinians in 2023. Only 8% of killings were militant deaths. But the West is never going to call it a genocide.
So you see, even us, who pretend to be extremely "just" (what a joke) and want to paint ourselves as the good guys: we kill millions.
So why should anyone else not do the same thing? We lead by example
I'm not sure where your data comes from: but there are genocides everywhere, to this day.
honestly: You seem to have a set opinion, and you already seem to think worse of Arabs.
So I'm not trying to change it. Think whatever, but you're wrong, just saying.
There is nothing different about Arab culture - only that we keep pointing the finger and telling everyone how backwards they are, and how evil they are,
so we wont complain when our governments kill another hundred thousand of them.
And if you think a culture does not develop pure hatred after being buttraped by us for 1300 years, you are absolutely delusional. Sorry.
HOW should they be down to earth? We keep killing them ffs. Or funding terrorists in their countries (thanks for that US)
I can 100% understand Arab hate for us. Also we're talking just extremist Muslims like Hamas. That's a tiny percentile of Arabs, not even 1%.
Yet we keep killing their civilians.
You cannot compare this to Christianity, that has been living in complete safety, protected by the Pontifikat.
But even if you did: O we killed so fucking many people in the name of Jesus. So fucking many people. Mostly Muslims.
Holy Wars we called our Crusades. See we were exactly alike once.
edit: Just as I said in another post. I realize that Arabs are not people to many of us in the West.
We just don't want to understand them, because we feel superior. We feel more just, we feel like we are better people by default.
So every man, every woman, every child of them is evil, and it's fine to kill them and try wiping out their religion.
How are we different dude? Because our governments have to lie to make their genocides happen? So?
We still see it happening, and we've seen it happening for 70 years in the Middle East. Are any of us complaining?
Maybe 5% if we're lucky.
All this talk about inclusion, be nice to everyone: no shit
But Arabs can fucking eat shit apparently. They are inherently evil, or so said God to George Bush
And he wasn't even tested for his sanity, after he received an order from inside his head.
Na people were like "...well if God said so, I guess we just have to attack Iraq.."
How are we different? How do we not kill people over nothing?
Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Iran had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Afghanistan had NOTHING to do with 9/11.
The money and 9 or 10 of the terrorists for 9/11 came from Saudi. But US doesn't wanna attack Saudi, it's much too influential and powerful in the world.
Did ANYONE say a word that we attacked the wrong Muslims? Or that murdering millions over 3000 people is wrong? Just a very select few. The rest was OK with it, apparently.
How are we different? How do we not kill people over their faith?
We're fucking two-faced, the entire West.
It's no wonder that BRICS' power is rising. It's going to be the entire world against the West in the end. Arab countries are flocking to BRICS, no fucking wonder.
Countries everywhere in the entire World are coming to BRICS. No fucking wonder - do you even know what we DID over the years? We made China addicted to Opium. We occupied a powerful Empire like India. We coerced Jeltzin to dissolve the USSR. In fact we tried destroying every Empire we ever came across. We're in no way innocent in the destruction of the Osmanian Empire either. We split Korea. Vietnam is in a dictatorship. We enslaved people everywhere in the world. We led dozens of Crusades against Muslims and other religions (like Asatru, Paganism everywhere). We had a genocide against Native Americans and stole their lands.
Maybe we will even have parts of the West against the West - never be too sure about Europe as an ally of "the West"/NATO - there's a lot of anger between many European countries and the US too. All this manipulation they've been doing in the EU. Especially the "fuck the EU coup" in Ukraine 2014 by Victoria Nuland and company.
We're the bad guys. I know a lot of us don't want to believe that, but that's what's up.
Yeah we wonder all about how they can be so extremist? Well maybe if we had tried diplomacy instead of backstabbing and murdering over the years, maybe we'd live in an entirely different world.
We will never know, because we rather make China addicted to Opium, and then point the finger that their government is fucked up. We rather split Korea, and then point the finger that North Korea is fucked up. We coerce and promise and backstab to dissolve the USSR, and then we point the finger that Russia is weak.
Weak maybe, but those "weaklings" held and pushed back the German main front, and won WW2 for Europe. They have fucking amazing soldiers.
And they're fucking angry that the US claims they won WW2, which is just a fucking lie, and also that they're seen as enemies even after all this time.
The only country that was thankful towards Russia after they let us unite, was Germany. We still love them for that.
They let us unite for a promise, which NATO broke only 10 years later.
We're 100% the bad guys, no questions about it. Our governments at least.
