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Benzos Is Xanax useless for anybody else here?

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anotnon

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I see a lot about how so supposedly strong Xanax is and how much better than other benzos it is yet when I took it it didn't even do anything for my anxiety and I felt no noticeable effects from it. Is this uncommon or is Xanax really just overrated?
 
anotnon said:
I see a lot about how so supposedly strong Xanax is and how much better than other benzos it is yet when I took it it didn't even do anything for my anxiety and I felt no noticeable effects from it. Is this uncommon or is Xanax really just overrated?
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Whether or not something is overrated is obviously a subjective consideration depending on how much you happen to like it (unless it is universally despised). I wouldn't say it's that uncommon, but you're definitely in the minority. It could be that you took too low a dose (how much did you take, and what is your tolerance?), had unrealistic expectations, or then just don't respond well to alprazolam. There are many for whom it isn't particularly effective. It is considered by most to be fairly potent and even recreational by quite a few, though many also consider its effects quite specifically anxiolytic, myself included.

Everyone responds differently, but for most people, Xanax is one of the stronger ones.
 
Benzo's aren't for everybody. Really, at the intended doses they're not "recreational", I mean they are for anxiety, and if you don't have any, 0.5mg alprazolam won't do much. Of course, if you take enough of any benzodiazepine, you WILL get high(if you don't simply pass out, that is) but it isn't exactly euphoric.
But if you don't like Xanax, you won't like any benzo.
 
Lorne??? said:
Benzo's aren't for everybody. Really, at the intended doses they're not "recreational", I mean they are for anxiety, and if you don't have any, 0.5mg alprazolam won't do much. Of course, if you take enough of any benzodiazepine, you WILL get high(if you don't simply pass out, that is) but it isn't exactly euphoric.
But if you don't like Xanax, you won't like any benzo.
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He did say it "didn't do anything for [his] anxiety" so I'm assuming there was some. I also wouldn't go as far as saying that if you don't like Xanax, you won't like any benzo. Plenty of people either don't like or don't get much effects from certain benzos. You also seem to be assuming this is the first benzo he's ever tried.
 
For an anxiolytic, it's pretty damn good (IMO). I'm surprised you didn't get anything out of it if you have trouble with anxiety.

Recreationally, on the other hand, it's not worth much (and the same goes for all of the other benzodiazepines that I've ever tried). Unless your idea of a good high is peering through half-open eyelids and mumbling through your brain fog (or blacking out and doing a bunch of dumb stuff that you'll be told about later).
 
Psychonauticunt said:
He did say it "didn't do anything for [his] anxiety" so I'm assuming there was some. I also wouldn't go as far as saying that if you don't like Xanax, you won't like any benzo. Plenty of people either don't like or don't get much effects from certain benzos. You also seem to be assuming this is the first benzo he's ever tried.
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Yeah, I missed that part. But I find it hard to believe an *adequate* dose of alprazolam wouldn't help anxiety, especially if other benzo's have.

It appears he's looking for recreational effects, though, as he said it "didn't EVEN do anything for my anxiety", as if that was secondary.

In the end though, I've yet to meet anyone who "liked" benzodiazepines, who didn't like alprazolam, though of course, that doesn't make it impossible.
 
^ Well now you have. ;)

I like Diazepam and Temazepam the best, seconded by clonazepam and etizolam. The dichlorinated Benzos like Alprazolam and Lorazepam are way over rated IMHO. Diclazepam itself is better than Lorazepam, surprisingly.
 
That's not surprising. Both diazepam and temezapam have a fast onset, and short duration, which is a hallmark of drugs of abuse. Most people don't like diazepam because it is mild, but in high doses it hits HARD and FAST, and is a great anxyiolytic/hyponotic.

Lorazepam sucks recreationally, IMO, but is great for tapering. But alprazolam? Just.Fucking.Awesome.

(I've always preferred clonazepam, though, because of the killer duration, but have recently rediscovered the joys of alprazolam.
 
I like lorazepam quite a bit. It's got legs on it compared to the other popular ones (with the exception of clonazepam). That was actually the first benzodiazepine I did that I "fell in love with", actually, even though I had tried alprazolam, clonazepam, etizolam, temazepam & bromazepam before it. Funny how different benzodiazepines mesh with different brains, heh.
 
Lorne??? said:
That's not surprising. Both diazepam and temezapam have a fast onset, and short duration, which is a hallmark of drugs of abuse...
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I wouldn't call temazepam "short", it has a longer half-life than alprazolam on average, and also doesn't internalize GABA receptors as quickly as Alprazolam does, so it doesn't "drop off" as quickly.

Now Diazepam, short?! It's one of the longest lasting benzos around!
 
No, with acute dosing diazepam has a very short duration, though of course at high doses, the duration is extended.

Half-life and duration if action are 2 very different things, I have to go now, but I have explained it in previous posts.

(And yeah, for me temazepam can hold a while, but I always took large(ER) doses.
 
Diazepam has a biphasic half-life consisting of short peak effects and prolonged residual effects. Obviously with a large dose even these residual effects and active metabolites will rise to considerable levels, so peak levels will be prolonged, but a single, normal dose of diazepam isn't that long-lasting - 4-6 hours, some people say maybe 8 but I'd say that's pushing it. For daytime anxiety I definitely had to dose it at least twice.

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Lorazepam sucks recreationally, IMO, but is great for tapering.
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Great for tapering? How in the fuck is lorazepam great for tapering? Lorazepam is the worst benzodiazepine I have ever withdrawn from, much worse than eg. temazepam or clonazepam, but personal experiences aside, how could it be great for tapering? It is specifically known for causing a particularly severe withdrawal syndrome. It is potent in all areas, has intermediate action, and has no active metabolites. Once you stop using it levels plummet extremely quickly.
 
Lorne??? said:
No, with acute dosing diazepam has a very short duration, though of course at high doses, the duration is extended.

Half-life and duration if action are 2 very different things, I have to go now, but I have explained it in previous posts.

(And yeah, for me temazepam can hold a while, but I always took large(ER) doses.
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Yup. Clonazepam has an exponentially shorter half-life than diazepam but the duration of action is much longer.

I dunno, I just find that after taking opioids, there really is nothing 'fun' about benzos but they could very well be worth their weight in gold for someone who is going through opioid wd.

Alprazolam is without a doubt strong and effective but the problem is that it is a very short ride.

Plus alprazolam is more suited towards immediate relief from panic attacks as opposed to general anxiety.
 
I think it's pretty overrated personally. I used to have a prescription for 1mg clonazepam and it seemed more effective for anxiety.. I tried to abuse xanax and klonopin by taking quite a bit.. never did much unless mixed with alcohol.

I was actually quite excited to try xanax because so many had said how amazing it was. I was very disappointed lol. I expected it to be something like oxycodone.
 
I know half-life =/= duration, I've been around the block, but I still say diazepam isn't "short" - for me any how. A 20mg dose of valium will keep me sedated into the next day - longer than a 30mg dose of Temazepam - and I take both several times per month (probably about every 3 days).
 
N0 W4RN1NG said:
I know half-life =/= duration, I've been around the block, but I still say diazepam isn't "short" - for me any how. A 20mg dose of valium will keep me sedated into the next day - longer than a 30mg dose of Temazepam - and I take both several times per month (probably about every 3 days).
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If you are taking diazepam every three days and have been for sometime, then this would likely explain why the duration is longer. The metabolites have slowly piled up in your system. This is precisely why diazepam is the preferred choice for tapering for those who have a physical dependence to benzos.
 
There isn't really any HR value in this thread. I think that what's been said so far pretty much sums it up. Some people don't enjoy any benzos, others do but prefer some over others. People with anxiety tend to enjoy benzos due to their therapeutic value, and people that are withdrawing from opiates enjoy them for helping ease their symptoms.

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