Is This Seratonin Syndrome?

[StonedCold]

Hey Guys,

About two weeks ago, a friend of mine consumed 2 rolls of E. These were suspected to contain Safrole as well as MDxx. The next day, they had these symptoms:

-blurred vision
-excessive yawning
-when yawning, extreme ties felt very strange. Almost like they were turning to quicksilver, like an intense bug-crawling-on-skin or tingling sensation. Really weird.

What could the 3rd symptom be? That's what he is scared about. It was less noticeable the next day, and gone the day after that.

 

[MagickalKat777]

Not at all. Serotonin syndrome is SO much more complicated than that. lol. Those are pretty typical MDXX next-day crack-out crash feelings.

 

[StonedCold]

So the yawning thing is nothing to worry about? It's pretty freaky, lol. He said it's like he's turning to ice when he yawns.

 

[naatural]

If you had serotonin syndrome you wouldn't have the mental clarity to write a post in the first place

 

[MagickalKat777]

If you had serotonin syndrome you wouldn't have the mental clarity to write a post in the first place

This.

Let me show you the symptoms of serotonin syndrome (and they're additive so they all appear and go in order, some of them stronger than others but they will all happen as the syndrome progresses).

From wiki:

Symptom onset is usually rapid, often occurring within minutes. Serotonin syndrome encompasses a wide range of clinical findings. Mild symptoms may only consist of increased heart rate, shivering, sweating, dilated pupils, myoclonus (intermittent tremor or twitching), as well as overresponsive reflexes.[1] Moderate intoxication includes additional abnormalities such as hyperactive bowel sounds, high blood pressure and hyperthermia; a temperature as high as 40 °C (104 °F) is common in moderate intoxication. The overactive reflexes and clonus in moderate cases may be greater in the lower limbs than in the upper limbs. Mental status changes include hypervigilance and agitation.[1] Severe symptoms include severe increases in heart rate and blood pressure that may lead to shock. Temperature may rise to above 41.1 °C (106.0 °F) in life-threatening cases. Other abnormalities include metabolic acidosis, rhabdomyolysis, seizures, renal failure, and disseminated intravascular coagulation; these effects usually arise as a consequence of hyperthermia.[1][3]

The symptoms are often described as a clinical triad of abnormalities:[1][5]

* Cognitive effects: headache, agitation, hypomania, mental confusion, hallucinations, coma
* Autonomic effects: shivering, sweating, hyperthermia, hypertension, tachycardia, nausea, diarrhea.
* Somatic effects: myoclonus (muscle twitching), hyperreflexia (manifested by clonus), tremor.

Now, they leave off the part about death after coma.

 

[waterfreak]

Hey Guys,

About two weeks ago, a friend of mine consumed 2 rolls of E. These were suspected to contain Safrole as well as MDxx. The next day, they had these symptoms:

-blurred vision
-excessive yawning
-when yawning, extreme ties felt very strange. Almost like they were turning to quicksilver, like an intense bug-crawling-on-skin or tingling sensation. Really weird.

What could the 3rd symptom be? That's what he is scared about. It was less noticeable the next day, and gone the day after that.

Safrole is a precurser in the making of mdma so its always gonna be in it...

This.

Let me show you the symptoms of serotonin syndrome (and they're additive so they all appear and go in order, some of them stronger than others but they will all happen as the syndrome progresses).

From wiki:

Symptom onset is usually rapid, often occurring within minutes. Serotonin syndrome encompasses a wide range of clinical findings. Mild symptoms may only consist of increased heart rate, shivering, sweating, dilated pupils, myoclonus (intermittent tremor or twitching), as well as overresponsive reflexes.[1] Moderate intoxication includes additional abnormalities such as hyperactive bowel sounds, high blood pressure and hyperthermia; a temperature as high as 40 °C (104 °F) is common in moderate intoxication. The overactive reflexes and clonus in moderate cases may be greater in the lower limbs than in the upper limbs. Mental status changes include hypervigilance and agitation.[1] Severe symptoms include severe increases in heart rate and blood pressure that may lead to shock. Temperature may rise to above 41.1 °C (106.0 °F) in life-threatening cases. Other abnormalities include metabolic acidosis, rhabdomyolysis, seizures, renal failure, and disseminated intravascular coagulation; these effects usually arise as a consequence of hyperthermia.[1][3]

The symptoms are often described as a clinical triad of abnormalities:[1][5]

* Cognitive effects: headache, agitation, hypomania, mental confusion, hallucinations, coma
* Autonomic effects: shivering, sweating, hyperthermia, hypertension, tachycardia, nausea, diarrhea.
* Somatic effects: myoclonus (muscle twitching), hyperreflexia (manifested by clonus), tremor.

Now, they leave off the part about death after coma.

this!

 

[hobhead]

i was diagnosed with it in the ER . I was delirious and was falling on my face as well as some of the stuff quoted from wiki .
this was caused by an incompetent VA psyc doc adding a serotonergic antidepressant to the mix without even consulting the PDR's drug/drug interaction profile . the fucking thing was right in front of his nose!!

if i knew what was happening i would have simply patched up my face from the falls and sat it out until the chemicals were washed out .

 

[Bearlove]

Sounds like the typical after day effects - especially if they had been awake half the night rolling face.