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is there anyway to tell by looks as to what may be in an extasy pill?

Here is a good example of a red pill or logo not meaning shit.

Example 1
Red Monkey
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2449
Weight - 330mG
Diameter - 8.3mm
Depth - 5.2mm
Contents:
Caffeine
Lidocaine
Procaine
5-MeO-DiPT


Example 2
Red Monkey
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2308
Weight - 280mG
Diameter - 8.1mm
Depth - 4.7mm
Contents:
MDMA
Caffeine

you seem to be the law around here. i would usually blindly follow your arrogant overly assertive opinion but you have posted links to shitty colourful pills not boxes..thanks for taking the time to do that though im not sure why you did? what do the pills have in common its not colour can you join the dots please o knowledgeable one?
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Totally Unnecessary.
 
but I think that point has been well driven home already in this thread
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umm you wrote this.

Do you have a problem, again? Or is it still?
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^ Here ya go a nice red pill!
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i dont really have a problem how bout you. ask futura he brought it up again i responded.

Any addition by Futura or anyone else (with something useful to say) is always welcome.
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always its an online forum open to anyone all welcome
 
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futura2012 said:
Here is a good example of a red pill or logo not meaning shit.

Example 1
Red Monkey
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2449
Weight - 330mG
Diameter - 8.3mm
Depth - 5.2mm
Contents:
Caffeine
Lidocaine
Procaine
5-MeO-DiPT


Example 2
Red Monkey
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2308
Weight - 280mG
Diameter - 8.1mm
Depth - 4.7mm
Contents:
MDMA
Caffeine



Totally Unnecessary.
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Although, I must admit both of those pills seem pretty shit. But regardless, a very well made point. :) at least one actually contains SOME MDMA and not just some shit dangerous cocktail......
 
will the test kits tell me how much mdma is in each pill or does it just test for the presence of it?
 
b-rain said:
will the test kits tell me how much mdma is in each pill or does it just test for the presence of it?
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No test kit that I know of can do that. If you want to know how much MDMA is in your pills you have to "wash" your pills. Washing is a process that uses chemicals such as acetone to remove all the adulterants and binders and leave you with pure MDMA crystals.
 
Although, I must admit both of those pills seem pretty shit. But regardless, a very well made point. at least one actually contains SOME MDMA and not just some shit dangerous cocktail......
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Dont you just love those USA coctails :D It would seem owning a test kit in USA is like visiting Bangkok with condoms. I dread to think what a coctail of Caffeine, Lidocaine, Procaine, 5-MeO-DiPT would be like.

Looking at the contents it looks like the type of cuts a coke dealer would use. Probably a side line business use up the inert fillers and sprinkle in some 5-Me0-DipT to give it some kick :D

No test kit that I know of can do that. If you want to know how much MDMA is in your pills you have to "wash" your pills. Washing is a process that uses chemicals such as acetone to remove all the adulterants and binders and leave you with pure MDMA crystals.
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Im gonna be adding some more info on the acetone wash thread using alcohol as a cleaner as well. This will get out more of the junk from the pills. Hopefully in the end you end up with pure white crystals :)
 
i think the test it advice is good. i can tell you that sometimes you can look at something and know not to take it. people can make pills that look like mdma that can have all kinds of other stuff in them. very often people will make pills that look like candy or vitamins and that's usually a sign that it's not mdma. shapes like a bart simpson head or a transformer or butterflys or anything novel like that is usually never mdma. in the past they have been dxm or piperazines. pills that taste sour on your tongue are not mdma. pills that are rock hard and hard to crush might have meth in them. so if you've got a well pressed pill that's a pastel or soft color and crumbles and isn't any weird shape and is bitter on the tongue it could be mdma, but it might not be.
 
elr said:
pills that are rock hard and hard to crush might have meth in them. so if you've got a well pressed pill that's a pastel or soft color and crumbles and isn't any weird shape and is bitter on the tongue it could be mdma, but it might not be.
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I'm sorry but I can not agree with this, most of this information provided is not exactly probable evidence to make such implications... As lately I have encountered a many of "rock hard pills" that were extremely difficult to break that contained MDMA and MDMA only. Most not as "pastel colored" as you'd assume. Nowadays there are many ways to fake an ecstasy pill to make it look relatively legitimate, but some cases render false therefore not so great xtc tablets. So for safe sake, let's just say that, yes it is impossible to tell just by looking at it.

This is a pill we speak of not weed. Any press is eligable to be copied and some phonies do a damn good job at it.
 
i think the test it advice is good. i can tell you that sometimes you can look at something and know not to take it. people can make pills that look like mdma that can have all kinds of other stuff in them. very often people will make pills that look like candy or vitamins and that's usually a sign that it's not mdma. shapes like a bart simpson head or a transformer or butterflys or anything novel like that is usually never mdma. in the past they have been dxm or piperazines. pills that taste sour on your tongue are not mdma. pills that are rock hard and hard to crush might have meth in them. so if you've got a well pressed pill that's a pastel or soft color and crumbles and isn't any weird shape and is bitter on the tongue it could be mdma, but it might not be.
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Sorry but this is total bunk advice.

Check out this link:

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2081

Its a transformer shaped pill containing 100% MDMA it totally bunks what you are saying.

Please when it comes to pills colour, shape, logo, crumbley, hard, taste none of this will tell you shit.

A test kit has its limit but it at least puts you in the right direction.

Please dont try to assess pills in this way this is very POOR ADVICE!!! Warning..
 
futura2012 said:
Sorry but this is total bunk advice.

Check out this link:

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2081

Its a transformer shaped pill containing 100% MDMA it totally bunks what you are saying.

Please when it comes to pills colour, shape, logo, crumbley, hard, taste none of this will tell you shit.

A test kit has its limit but it at least puts you in the right direction.

Please dont try to assess pills in this way this is very POOR ADVICE!!! Warning..
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maybe. i understand that you can't really tell by looking at it. just my observations. my bias or whatever. i would assume a shaped pill would be adulterated. i would assume if it wouldn't break up it had something else in it. the sour thing is true. i'm speaking from experience but i understand what you guys are saying. it's not really advice i'm just saying what i've noticed. i've got nothing to lose by thinking this way.
 
While I do agree with what you said Futura, do not EVER try to tell people cut out pills are good.

I know the Transformer your talking about, it was a VERY small scale press that put out maybe one or two batches, nothing else. Cut out pills are almost ALWAYS completely bunk in the US. I wouldn't ever even waste my time or money testing one, you already know it's going to be fake.

http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?start=0&search_field=all&s=transformer
http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?start=0&search_field=all&s=bart
http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?start=0&search_field=all&s=smurf



Now to deal with the other dude....

pills that taste sour on your tongue are not mdma
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Maybe. Or maybe the presser just added another chemical that tastes sweet, like lactose, to make his pill press better. There is no way to tell what's in a pill by licking it.



pills that are rock hard and hard to crush might have meth in them.
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How does this make ANY sense to you? All the meth pills I've seen (I have seen, taken and snorted HUNDREDS of them.) were soft as fuck. The pressers make them like that on purpose, so people can snort them, as that's how people like to take meth. Making it hard to crush would be counter productive to any pill operation.
 
Folley said:
While I do agree with what you said Futura, do not EVER try to tell people cut out pills are good.

I know the Transformer your talking about, it was a VERY small scale press that put out maybe one or two batches, nothing else. Cut out pills are almost ALWAYS completely bunk in the US. I wouldn't ever even waste my time or money testing one, you already know it's going to be fake.
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yup. and i would argue that the other things i was saying are generally true. sure, there might be a big, hard, waxy, sour, bright orange with spots, pill in the shape of cock and balls that's 100% mdma but i wouldn't eat it. see my point?
 
do not EVER try to tell people cut out pills are good.
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Never tell anyone any pill is good. The point here is the shape doesnt mean shit. All the pills below are shapes and test positive for MDMA.

In certain geographic areas shaped pills may be more risky but the point is you really dont know.

Even with a GC/MS test you still dont know its from the same batch.

You will see some of the pills below are other transformer presses. The reason for the transformer shape is because it comes as one of the common dies with the cheap chinese pill presses thats the only fact we know. What someone chooses to put in the pill (or transformer / bart simpson pill) is totally out of our hands.


http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1895

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1881

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1882

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1870

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1455

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1409

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1226

How does this make ANY sense to you? All the meth pills I've seen (I have seen, taken and snorted HUNDREDS of them.) were soft as fuck. The pressers make them like that on purpose, so people can snort them,
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This is nonsense. The pills become soft either because they are hydroscopic or have been poorly pressed. No one is going to make a pill crumbley deliberately for people to snort. If something is going to be sold for snorting there is no point in pressing it with binder and filler that makes no sense.
 
They use fillers in them like chalk that are very easy to break apart. The pills stay together just fine, they are also just very easy to bust up into a fine powder.

I've taken pictures of pills with that texture easily visible, they are very powdery looking pills.





Not a SINGLE pill you posted is from the past 2 years. Most are more that 5 years old.

Sure, a shaped pill MIGHT contain MDMA (and I don't any shape other than round like stars or the "love" or Mitsubishi pills. I mean head shapes like the Simpsons, Ninja Turtles or Transformer heads), but it's bad HR to even tell people they should bother with them.

Like I said, I would NEVER buy a cutout pill, even to test with my reagent. There's no point, I already know it's fake in this market.
 
but it's bad HR to even tell people they should bother with them.
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It is bad HR to tell anyone to consume any pill without testing it first. By suggesting shaped pills are bad you are suggesting that the shape of a pill offers some type of identity and from the pics I have posted regardless of age this is clearly BS.

The whole point of this thread is to illustrate that shape, colour, taste, consistency, logo should be regarded with great suspision as pill presses these days are two a penney and for under $100 the chinese will make you any shaped dye. You could even order a defqon logo if you wanted.

In the USA perhaps shaped pills favour against you but who knows what shape colour etc might be the next bomb 250 for the future?
 
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