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Is there any "for sure" way of getting caffeine out of a CWE?

WorldWarMe

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I've recently moved and can't get my script of T3's anymore. All I can do is go get Tylenol 1's over the counter, but the amount of caffeine compared to codeine is ridiculous.

Even thought I'd literally need the whole bottle to get high (400mg Codeine), that would also be 750mg of Caffeine. I do NOT want to ingest that much, and I'm pretty sure if I did, it would kill me.

So, here I come to Bluelight, begging for a simple solution to getting the caffeine out of the finished solution.

I have the money to buy and prepare what I need to get the caffeine out, so any information, possibly step-by-steps would be appreciated.

Also, I don't want to be using things like Acetone.


Thank you in advanced BL.

Edit: I've just stumbled upon this:
Activated Carbone method:
for all the people who isn't really you who have been on the quest to get the caffeine out of the codeine/caffeine solution after a cwe then read on. swim has stumbled upon a tried and true, easy at home method. After the cwe procedure is final simply filter the solution through some Activated Carbon (available at any local pet shop for just a few bucks) and you will have a caffeine free solution. All swim uses is one of them permanent coffee filter but any small screen strainer will work and dumped the solution through it with a small amount of the carbon in it for several minutes from cup to cup. Rinse the activated carbon first to avoid a black solution. The bonus is the carbon also filters out any remaining acetaminophen that might have remained after cold water extraction. happy extracting. In SWIM's opinion the CWE is not even necessary and not advised, since more codeine will be lost by AC-filtering alone, which also filters APAP/PCM etc, thus is only preferred if caffeine is present. if not CWE is the method of choice.

This seems a little too easy to be true. Would this really work? Could someone provide some information on exactly how this would be done? Could this also remove some codeine? Could the activated carbon be harmful if accidentally ingested?

Sorry for all the questions, I just really want this caffeine out of my finished product.
 
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750 mgs of caffeine won't kill you, that's less than 4 no-doze tablets.

It may not kill me, but I don't want to ingest it. I would probably shit my pants so badly i'd explode my toilet.

Do you know anything about this activated carbon method?


Do you think this would work? Take some activated carbon, make it a fine power, and add it into the coffee filter (more like coat it, so it's on top of the coffee filter) then run the final CWE product through the filter (so it first goes through the powdered carbon, then into the coffee filter), then repeat a few times? Would this for sure get rid of the caffeine? Would this also remove some of the codeine?
 
Make a CWE extraction, add to the solution 2-3 grams of activated charcoal, stir it, let it sit for a minute, then filter it again. You will get a very clear liquid, most of the caffeine will be absorbed and also the remaining APAP.
 
How much codeine do you think will be lost? Also, if there was 750mg caffeine to begin with, how much do you think will be there after the activated charcoal? Will it be under 100mg?
 
I have no idea...I 've used to make CWE on pills with 15 mg of codeine and 20 mg of caffeine. 1 gram of charcoal usually worked fine on 10-15 pills. Experiment and see for yourself what works best....
 
Alright, from searching I've come up with a method to filter caffeine out (or atleast end up with a miniscule amount).

The solubility of caffeine with room temperature water is 2170 mg /100 ml.
The solubility of codeine with room temperature water is 1000 / 0.7 ml

So, if I were to take a 20cc syringe, add a paper towel filter to the bottom, and add 20 pills of 15mg caffeine/8mg codeine, then add around 5ml water and let it filter through the syringe, all of the codeine would be filtered through but a maximum of 108.5mg of Caffeine could be in the remaining product due it its solubility.

Would this work? Is this correct, or am I wrong?

Also, how long should I let the water sit in the syringe for? For regular CWE threads it says 15-20 minutes. Is this waiting period necessary or would it be instantly absorbed into the water?
 
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Alright, I did the above process, extracted 52 pills and ended up with a yeild of only 6cc! Yes, only 6cc. I ingested it, mixed with coca-cola (was probably the most disgusting thing I've ever tasted), and 20 minutes later I'm high as a kite and with absolutely no caffeine agitation, and believe me, i'd know if I was feeling the effects of 800mg caffeine.

This is the only way I know of that successfully removes the caffeine without compromising your codeine.

Sorry if my post doesn't make much sense, I'm high as fuck.
 
Nice...did all the pills came in contact with the water? Wasn't some water absorbed and retained by the pills?
 
Yes, if you use 20 pills and 8cc of water, let it evenly spread thru the powder then let/push out about 60-80 drops or 4-5cc of water out. What you have is 160mg codeine and only around 50mg caffeine instead of 333mg, which is a significant difference if you ask me.
 
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