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Heroin Is some ECP just not good intranasal?

ShaunG

ShaunG

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I've seen numerous people post here that they never feel anything really with snorting ECP.

I swear I tried like 6 different sources and it all looked different colors. I've done about 10-12 batches. Only twice did I feel that goodness with a small line of ECP. The rest I could do 4 monster lines of and not feel anything besides a mild warmth for about 40 minutes. Then pretty much nothing the rest of the day besides negative side effects especially when I do a bunch of it. You would think if its bad, you could just do more of it to get where you want to be. It just doesn't seem like the case. However, I know people that bang it and really enjoy it. I watch them nod. I don't like needles and won't bang it. I just don't get what the huge difference in euphoria or lack there of would be.

Poorly synthesized? Just straight garbage? I've seen several other people discuss this topic. Anyone have any feedback or similar experience?
 
Could be technique. You don't want it to drip. You want it to absorb in your nasal passages. Once it hits your stomach, you pretty much just eating it. I know if I snort hard and quick, it hits the back of my throat and I get very little out of it
 
Nah I do small gentle ones most of the time. I also tried waterlining it. Maybe I am in a beat area (major city) where it is just stepped on to garbage with stuff that makes me nauseous and sick before I can get high, but thats pretty bad. I see doods bang one bag and they are good so I find it quite strange. I have snorted a few good batches that were just how everyone described the H so my conclusion is it is just a poorly synthesized batch or it is just stepped on with crazy amounts of random shitty cuts?
 
I dont kno wwhos posts you are reading about not feeling anything from east coast powder. Bottom line is you are getting bunk or your tolerance is higher than the dose you are taking.

If you have never done opiates I will attest that they are an aquired taste. People might expect some mind blowing experience from heroin considering the bag stigma attatched to it.

but if you are gtting sick before you are getting high I think you basically just do not enjoy the opoiate high.

thats a sign you are using too much if you get nausea.

Its a bad sign the do[pe you are getting is all different colors lol. Legit ecp should appear white unless its next to soething actualyl white like cocaine in which case it will appear slightly offwhite with a hint of brown or so. When mixed with water it should 100% dissolve and be translucent kind of like apple juice, piss, or iced tea.

Have you done opiates before?

I was doing around 10-12 30mg oxy ir daily when i switched to dope, and iwas expecting something crazy. The first few tiems I was dissapointed before I realized that I needed to sniff a whole bag (niorth jersey sized bags which are 20-50mg and just a few bucks a pop) to equal a 30mg oxy. ONe day I got fire dope and quickly realized that I could get 10 bags which would be as good if not better than my 300+oxy daily dose, and cost the price of less than two 30mg oxy ir's. Never looked back. It is best consumed sniffed or shot.

Maybe opiates arnt for you> thats not a bad thing...

What state/city are you? Its probably not "poorly synthesized" its probably cut to sh it... lol
 
Opiates are definitely for me. I have a tolerance of about 70-90mg of roxy and I do not use daily other than my scripted 10mg vicodin or occasional oxy. I agree...probably cut to shit.

If I do a little...get a little warm for an hour and then just have pinned pupils and can't piss all day along with back pain relief. If I do enough to itch myself crazy it is usually like 4-6 lines or maybe one full point. I get the same or a little greater warmth for an hour and then just itch all day, get slowed breathing, ?get jacked up feeling anxiety?, crazy dry mouth, get nauseous and sometimes projectile vomit (i usually don't on opiates), and can't sleep even 12 hours after dosing. I still don't achieve that sweet euphoria warmth and nod in and out for 8-10 hours as I have once achieved with a very small line before of ECP from the same area. Even though I am getting the neg side effects when doing a bunch. My only conclusion is that the cuts are doing this? It sucks because I definitely enjoyed the ECP i have had a few times where I get that sweet calming warm euphoria which I found better than oxy or opana ever were.

I do take .5mg daily of xanax too as I do have anxiety. I hate mixing the two even at my prescribed dose but I usually have to at night or I can't sleep cuz my body jerks all over the place and I snap awake feeling like I have stopped breathing. Thats why I always dose really early in the morning if I do it so most of it is gone by the time I go to sleep and can take my xanax...usually just a .25mg. I'm on cozaar for blood pressure too.

Also, as for color, its either off white or tan for the most part. Ironically enough the darker brown more vinegar smelling bag is what had my head blown back and sitting on a cloud. I'm in the midwest (not chi-town though of course).
 
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If you're getting dope that people only get high on when IV'ing, it means it's total shit. The BA of heroin is high enough intranasally that even decent dope will get you high snorted. If the product is so bad that it requires the full 100% BA and rush from IV'ing to produce any real effect, it's very very low quality.
 
^ this

i have gotten rocked from nasal heroin; it was very good stuff! i loved that connect, its kind of sad lol
 
ya, its likely just always garbage. i just didn't understand why i would get all the negatives effects of doing to much....unless from bad cut.
 
Ya I dunno man...I guess it's really that bad. I tried 2 other sources and same thing. I did the entire bag yesterday with a 70mg oxy tolerance for comparison. I felt mildy opiated for an hour then just nauseated at about th 3 hr mark. I yacked at the 4 hr mark but felt nothing like euphoria or opiate-like since the 1st hr. this was not even a good warmth or euphoriA tbh...felt better on oxy, fast forward 18 hours later at 5am and I was awake with insomnia and still had pinned pupils. I pissed like 15 times from 1am-5am...finally i took a .5mg xanex and passed out with pupils still pinned. Ionly dosed from 9am-1030am. This is how it always is with all different h around here when I snort it. I just don't get it. I woke up with a banger headache too.
 
I agree with Mr.Scag and laCCy, it's just some shitty, low-potency ECP. Most likely just cut to hell. I've witnessed plenty of batches that I can confidently say that most likely there was no diacetylmorphine content. Some of these bunk batches even looked identical to heroin: big golden brown rocks and even a strong vinegar aroma... absolute re-rocked, bullshit.

I've had to become a connoisseur of heroin. Took a lot of bad dope and fishing through different dealers in different parts of my city; mainly the west side, then east side, and lastly north (which is now dead due to a bunch of big busts on that side of town). Currently, I have a handful of dealers that I consider the best and with that comes the best dope as well, even if they're some truly selfish assholes. Fire dope is fire dope, you put up with bullshit... when you're a heroin addict you're a fucking heroin addict! Haha
 
No diacetylmorphine as in just nothing? there is obviously some kind of opiate in there to keep me well and my pupils pinned as fuck...urine retention...nausea...deyhdration. if I had to compare the feeling it would be to PST in the past but I just figured it was the other alkaloids that did this. I've tried like 6-7 different dealers so its pretty sad. Junkies must be hard up in this city to shoot that shit. Id rather take 70mg -90mg oxy.

Don't get me wrong I have been rocked too but not in a while. I just don't get why I would yack or have pinned pupils for 18 hours on a tiny ass bit of dope that doesn't even get me high. bad cuts in a batches? I guess it could be a good thing cuz it has put me off on dope but my tolerance is fucked on pills now. Uses to have a 60mg tolerance and 90mg oxy orally got me high for about 30 minutes last time. Oh well...maybe i need to take a nice break...
 
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Just out of curiosity is H ever cut with methadone or subutex? I realize this would be speculation but wouldn't these two drugs give off all the negative side effects one might get from H, make u well, and last very long? I doubt all these different bags would be doing this but just a thought.

I don't have experience with either....only bupe once and I hated it but that wouldn't work with IV users as I know this same crap is used by People that IV. I tried another this morning from someone else...same ol story. pretty sad...not sure why people spend loot on this garbage and IV it. I'm done...would rather have pills. /rant
 
i guess im surprised i would get sick before i get high. you would think if you get shitty dope you could just keep doing lines until you get an actual nice opiate buzz, but after experiencing the nasty side effects from about 110-120mg and not getting high...i wouldn't want to continue to keep doing lines to get high because I would figure the side effects would just get worse. mayne its from the cuts used in this city - i dunno. im surprised people in this area fiend for such a high (i know a lot just want to get well and IVing is a different story) cuz there must be a lot of it around given the random different spots i have tried lol

im sure there is fire in this city somewhere but im done wasting money searching. as hangyourhead said above, i would probably have to become a connoisseur and just keep searching for better connects until you finally get them. i guess i have been spoiled in just about every other drug genre. my friends know me as that guys that always has the exotic or top notch personal selection of narcotics hahah


EDIT: This might sound weird, but I didnt see anything using search function. Since what I get is so bad and I already have some I don't really have interest in doing as is....would CWE on this garbage be an option to remove some of the cuts? I know they bag would have to be a decent size and it would probably be speculation because we don't know what the cuts are...but a possibility if the cuts are not as water soluble in nice and cold water? Just a random thought...
 
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ya ill pass on the needle man. the crappy dope i had founds its way to a friend...no need to experience crappy side effects with no high. too bad my pill tolerance is crushed now. time for a break. i would still like to know thoughts on CWE on crappy ass dope to remove "some" of the cut. I know the bag would have to be a decent size and that its still gonna have cut when its done. I would likely need to vape it since there would be no way to gauge the water with that much dope in it. Seems more like more work than I feel like doing but still curious. Truth be told Im about to taper anyways....just wanted to have one last nod if possible, but not looking good.

thanks to all the people that replied in the thread...appreciate it.
 
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Perhaps you just don't find heroin to be that euphoric. It's just another opiate and people have there preferences, so it seems as though you highly prefer the high from oxycodone over heroin. If you are getting pinned pupils, urinary retention, and nausea, then you are definitely 'feeling' the drug, but you probably just don't like it much.

There are some opiates I just don't care for, morphine being one of them, so maybe heroin is for you what morphine is for me. There is no need to force it if you don't like it. It's not a good idea to keep trying heroin until you like it, because if you finally find a dose or a 'sweet spot' that you like, then you may be regretting it later down the line.
 
I wouldn't CWE, maybe use a cotton, coffee or micron filter(in essence a form of CWE, sorry if thats what you were planning to do already, I figure you mean what people do to extract hydro/oxy from vics/percs) if that is you thought, just get a needle-less syringe from a pharmacy, they are free. Then I guess evaporate and snort the dried remains... or waterline. I'd actually try the waterlining first, try to use as little water as possible to dissolve the H, too much water would probably not work well. Of course, if the H is as weak as you say, evaporating might leave nothing/very little to no be snorted.
 
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