Is shard ok too snort?

[junkie skumbag]

meth is a cunt to snort.. probably the most painful (if its really good gear) compared to any other drugs IMO.. but yeah, I much preffer to do it rather than to smoke it.. these days I stay away from the pipe as much as I can (usually only have some puffs when offered by friends) because I find the buzz really has no legs but when you snort it, you still get what I guess you could call a rush but it is a much more energetic feeling and lasts much, much longer...

havin all this said, when I have been pickin up gear as of late (usually once once or twice a month), I shoot it

really? im the total opposite.i find snorting to not last long enuf and the 10 mins of that almighty burn isnt worth it.plus with the price of meth smoking it is much more economical.i dont think i'll ever shoot meth.however i am def going to IV some molly....i tried shooting up some molly not long ago but i fucked it up n was more like a IM and burnt like fuck

 

[the_ketaman]

Pisspotnrock have you ever tried snorting a 2C-X chem before? A tiny line, hell even a speck will fucking sizzle your nose away. I did it with 2C-I and would much rather plug or use it orally, Damn druggies will do anything to get high!!! No the only reason I snorted the 2C-I was because we only had 2 doses between 3 people.

I find that snorting meth gives more of an energy boost and makes your mind go a million miles a second whereas smoking shard makes me want to sit around and smoke pipes as someone else already said. Ive even been known to nod out a bit when smoking or IV'ing shard but when sniffing you need to crush the crystals up as much as you can, the bigger the crystals the more it will burn and the longer it will take to dissolve in your nose. I like to snort a drop of water(no more) off my finger up each nostril before and after I have a line of something just so my mucous membrane is lubricated and ready to absorb some drugs!

So-
Oral meth= Long duration 12-24hrs, slow comeup(30-60 minutes, plateau then slow comedown. Dose between 30-100mg for non-tolerant person, 100mg being as high as youd probably want to go as a non-tolerant person, probably start off with less than 50mg if your a noob. Gives a pronounced body high with minimal psychological alteration.

Snorting/Intra-Nasal meth= Shorter duration of effects than oral, quicker comeup(10-25 mins), Dose for non-tolerant person between 10mg-50mg depending on the type of effect being sought after. A little bit rushy but not in the true sense of what a rush is(i.e IV/smoking but will get to that). Gives a big energy boost and you will likely end up cleaning the house or doing one thing that takes a long time to do but needs to be perfect, you will make it perfect

Smoking meth= Very fast come-up(3-15 seconds), different people seem to get varying effects. Some get very stimulated whereas some become relaxed up until a point where so much has been smoked that you just twacked anyway.. When dosing I just put 25-50mg in the pipe and smoke away till im feeling good, then smoke and smoke until its all gone. I could buy a half gram of shards and it would be gone in a night(and no I dont burn it) if I smoke it but if I inject it, sniff it or plug it then it would easily last me 3+ days. Smoking is so fun and gives the effect I like, its my fav way of doing it(even over injecting it) but I cant afford to smoke like that and we usually go out when we use drugs so its not like I can bring the pipe into the club or whatever.

IV or Injecting meth gives a very different effect to all the above methods of administration and I suggest you stay well clear if you havent tried it. 15-20mg would be a good starting point for someone who's never shot meth. Ive found it lasts almost as long as orally. You get a rush straight away which doesnt feel anything like any of the other ROA(Look in the trip reports if your interested in how IV feels as ive written a trip report and theres others on there too) then it plateau's down to a strong high for 6-8 hours then your just awake and a bit high for many hours after.

Anyway that was long but I thought I should just outline the different ROA's and the differences. Stay safe people and yeah id stick to snorting and eating the meth, is it worth the chance of becoming chained to that glass pipe/needle?

 

[rayvechik7]

^ Indeed. 2C-b was by far the most painful substance I've ever insufflated. Not recommended

I would agree with your sentiment ketaman-without trying to sound dictatorial or fatalistic-if you are going to consume meth; I'd personally stick with oral/insufflation as ROAs...the glass pipe is an entirely different beast. Once you go there, it's hard to revert back...

 

[junkie skumbag]

fuuuuuuuuuuuck 2C-B up the nose once and once only!!!!!

 

[rayvechik7]

^ Tears, for hours!

 

[OND43X]

when ever i have crushed up ice the pieces will fling all over the place if im not carefull. So do it with caution

 

[junkie skumbag]

when ever i have crushed up ice the pieces will fling all over the place if im not carefull. So do it with caution

get 2 spoons and put the ice in one of the spoons then use the other to chrush down the other.if u wanna be extra careful put it over a bowl and do it but yeah i never get any flinging pieces from doin it with 2 spoons

 

[Crankinit]

when ever i have crushed up ice the pieces will fling all over the place if im not carefull. So do it with caution

Put it on a smooth plastic card, cover it with a note then crush it by rolling something over it a few times (glass bottle or a lighter works well).

 

[OND43X]

thanks guys, both are good ideas, lol i think my main issue is the fact i loose patience and try this in places that are not the best, like inside a moving car

 

[garrygofast]

Check to see if your baggie is in good nick(no holes or tears) then use the base of a lighter to gently crush the shards.. If inside a moving car get a cd case, then you got a stable table to squash those tasty shards..

 

[Crankinit]

I find even with a brand new baggie, crushing stuff inside it can break the baggy and end up leaking some of your drugs. Better to wait till you're out of the car and do it properly.

 

[junkie skumbag]

Check to see if your baggie is in good nick(no holes or tears) then use the base of a lighter to gently crush the shards.. If inside a moving car get a cd case, then you got a stable table to squash those tasty shards..

i find that makes holes in the bag if u have chunky gear and u dont want holes in ur bag if ur shooting it

 

[CartoonHead]

^ This. Nothing more devastating than squirting the water into the baggie and shortly afterwards feeling and seeing water on your fingers....AAARGH!

 

[Minion]

^ This. Nothing more devastating than squirting the water into the baggie and shortly afterwards feeling and seeing water on your fingers....AAARGH!

Especially after the first shot hasn't worked due to CV Constriction, so you get more, go to shoot it, and the bag leaks....

on that note, seriously how the FUCK do I get rid of cardiovascular constriction?

 

[CartoonHead]

I think keeping yourself well hydrated helps a lot. Capsaicin (chilli) also helps as it is a vasodilator.

 

[Minion]

Really? That's a brilliant idea! To the point of releasing my veins on day 3-5, or just preventing it from happening if I eat chilli continually during my binge?

eg: is it like poo softeners on an opiate binge, you need to eat them around the first dose, then fairly regularly from that point in until AFTER the binge. I was so glad I discovered that, no more opiate hemorrhoids for me :D

 

[junkie skumbag]

Really? That's a brilliant idea! To the point of releasing my veins on day 3-5, or just preventing it from happening if I eat chilli continually during my binge?

eg: is it like poo softeners on an opiate binge, you need to eat them around the first dose, then fairly regularly from that point in until AFTER the binge. I was so glad I discovered that, no more opiate hemorrhoids for me :D

opiate and binge in the same sentence gives me shutters down my spin be carefuuuul PLUR

 

[lovepsychadelics]

Mostly just snorted it in the past and it seems like all the info is already provided. I just wanted to say smoking shard is so fucking fiendish! Yeah like heythatsmybike already stated smash the pipe. It's back to eating and snorting for me from now on. Even can pace myself better if I was hitting MDPV in a pipe compared to meth (high purity meth) and thats fucked up.

 

[Minion]

Mostly just snorted it in the past and it seems like all the info is already provided. I just wanted to say smoking shard is so fucking fiendish! Yeah like heythatsmybike already stated smash the pipe. It's back to eating and snorting for me from now on. Even can pace myself better if I was hitting MDPV in a pipe compared to meth (high purity meth) and thats fucked up.

I too am getting rid of my pipe. I'm done with that shit, I'm just gonna snort it from now on. Maybe have the odd pipe with mates and shit, but waaay to fiendish for normal use.
Here's an example.
Friday: I woke up at noon, I smoked a fair bit. I wont go into details. Had to hug the pipe all day, went to bed at 4 am.
Saturday, woke up at 12, smoked a bit, snorted a bit, had to hug the pipe less, was way less fiendish, went to bed about 4 am. Consumed about 3/4 what I did on friday.
Sunday: Woke up at 10. snorted some nice size lines. Felt amazing. Redosed half the amount as I did in the morning at 1pm, had amazing sex, was buzzed all afternoon, evening and well into the night, felt amazing, didn't get the urge to redose, and had a lot of trouble sleeping when I tried to go to bed at 11.30pm. I did about 2/5 what I did on friday.

What that says to me, is that snorting it, even though it's less bioavailability, is just better all round. To me. Friday, I wasn't getting high properly, and was considering going back to the needle just to get a buzz / proper feeling from it. (Glad I didn't. Thank you cardiovascular constriction ). Even considering the fact I did it three days in a row, HARD, Sunday was still the best because of the ROA. In my opinion, that is. However, I feel strongly enough about this opinion to share it. I recommend anyone having problems with the pipe to try snorting (probably pay to cut the lines with a little bit of gluc, just to dilute it and protect those little nostrils a bit. I wish I did now...) and see how you go. I even tried plugging in a desperate effort to get the buzz back... lets just say that gave me the shits hardcore.

Anyway: here's something to make all you HR buffs proud; After that crazy weekend, I'm having at least 5 days CLEAN off EVERYTHING, and will try and abstain from the goodshard until at least another weekend. I'd like to go a month, but I don't really want to. But still, 5 days off, when it's here sitting on my desk, I think that's good. Any person can avoid their issues, I'm staring mine in the face and saying "no". Ironically, I'm not getting high so I can get high. Junkie logic or what?

 

[MostUncivilised]

thank you! im starting to get sick of everyone calling meth crack.... why do we have to have nick names

No one in Australia tends to have crack anyway (thank goodness, what a shitty drug... hugely overrated)

Some people I was around when I was still in Australia called it crack *shruigs*