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Is MDMA/MDA stable in water?

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I was reading in some places that if you suspend MDMA in h2o that it would degrade in just a few hours. I've been looking around and can't find a for sure answer on whether it is stable or not in water, does anyone know?

I also found a scientific paper saying this wasn't true but it only gives a very rough overview of everything and no details of the study whatsoever.
http://www.fsijournal.org/article/S0379-0738(01)00562-X/abstract
 
That was an accurate article. MDA / MDMA are soluble in water, but do not degrade in water. They will dissolve just fine, though =)
 
It's LSD that tends to quickly go to hell in water solutions. MDMA is stable in water. (Reasonably stable, anyway. I would expect a fungus or something to show up and eat it if you left it in solution for months/years.)
 
AFAIK the only reason LSD degrades in water is because of the chlorine and other harsh chemicals in the water. I heard if you use distilled water you avoid this problem?

Thanks for the answers though. I just had a MDMA/MDA combo in some water waiting for me and was making sure it was safe. =)
 
AFAIK the only reason LSD degrades in water is because of the chlorine and other harsh chemicals in the water. I heard if you use distilled water you avoid this problem?
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Nope. LSD is highly sensitive to heat, visible light, and UV radiation too. Care still needs be taken when storing in a solution for more than a couple of months.
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I'd add ethanol to your solution, achieving like 10 percent concentration, to prevent bacterial growth. Lab-grade, non-denatured ethanol would be ideal (denatured ethanol will POISON you, possibly fatally!), but everclear or even vodka should work. Please note that I have not done this before, but I don't THINK that this concentration of alcohol would react with the MDA/MDMA.

ebola
 
ebola? said:
Nope. LSD is highly sensitive to heat, visible light, and UV radiation too. Care still needs be taken when storing in a solution for more than a couple of months.
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I'd add ethanol to your solution, achieving like 10 percent concentration, to prevent bacterial growth. Lab-grade, non-denatured ethanol would be ideal (denatured ethanol will POISON you, possibly fatally!), but everclear or even vodka should work. Please note that I have not done this before, but I don't THINK that this concentration of alcohol would react with the MDA/MDMA.

ebola
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well when you put acid in a solution you try to make it 1 hit is one drop, so i don't think denatured alcohol would do that much hard if you were doing one drop

as for the mdma in water, id prollyl barf from the taste if i drank that
 
ebola? said:
Nope. LSD is highly sensitive to heat, visible light, and UV radiation too. Care still needs be taken when storing in a solution for more than a couple of months.
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I'd add ethanol to your solution, achieving like 10 percent concentration, to prevent bacterial growth. Lab-grade, non-denatured ethanol would be ideal (denatured ethanol will POISON you, possibly fatally!), but everclear or even vodka should work. Please note that I have not done this before, but I don't THINK that this concentration of alcohol would react with the MDA/MDMA.

ebola
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I didn't say at all that that was the only way it would degrade. I said the reason it would degrade in such a situation. You could always add other variables but that's not what I was referring to.

That might be a good idea to do though. I'm sure vodka and such is fine as I've heard of people smuggling MDMA through country dissolved in wine.
 
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