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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Opioids Is lower testosterin due to opiods permanent

Branggen said:
Same sort of thing happened to me, was on opiates (fent/methadone) for 5 years age 17-21 and once I got off noticed more hair growing in a few places it hadn't, I also believe smoking weed all day messes up your hormones' and possibly test
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This dude was almost 40 when it happened.

Footnote for the idiot insulting me, I didn’t met him in jail. But you wouldn’t get it, like knowing people who were in jail means something, I think a lot more speaks about person if he doesn't know anyone who was in jail. And no surprise you look old and ugly from your fake tramals.
 
nznity said:
Similar thing happened to me, my beard recently started to grow when I quit IVing Morphine daily at 25. Up until that point I looked younger than my actual age.
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Yup the beard has been slowly filling in since here lol still got a bit to go. How have you been man?
 
Branggen said:
Yup the beard has been slowly filling in since here lol still got a bit to go. How have you been man?
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Here and there, still hanging bro. Haha, I still remember when I helped you/gave you some advise when you were quitting morphine hehe. I send u a big hug bro xx
 
Actually anytime quit opiates I Have the opposite problem, I m horny all the time and have hardcore premature ejaculation. It s a bummer but kratom, benzocaine condoms and last but not least...time should do the trick. But the post physical w-d depression can mess with your libido as well. Personally drinking some booze with my wife helped us out , not a big fan of alcohol but is the only sex friendly drug for me .
 
Juicewrldfan said:
I hear about kratom impacting T levels. How many of you have experienced this? Do you think it’s as significant as H?
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Well, kratom for me is a life safer both for opioid w-d and post w-d premature ejaculation. But I ve never taken a 40-50 grams per day like many people here hence I dunno
 
I lose weight on opioid due to eating less…not sure about muscle because I never had a ton despite being defined but no mass.

No ED at all but total loss of sex drive but as I’m withdrawing I get horney again and it all comes back. Like on opioids I’ll go a month without even jacking off or months without sex

It’s like the scene from train spotting where he has all his withdrawal meds and supplements and a stack of porn
 
skipjames said:
Actually anytime quit opiates I Have the opposite problem, I m horny all the time and have hardcore premature ejaculation. It s a bummer but kratom, benzocaine condoms and last but not least...time should do the trick. But the post physical w-d depression can mess with your libido as well. Personally drinking some booze with my wife helped us out , not a big fan of alcohol but is the only sex friendly drug for me .
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One time, while in a precipitated withdrawl from subs, my pant leg rubbed my dick and I literally busted, no fucking joke
 
Branggen said:
One time, while in a precipitated withdrawl from subs, my pant leg rubbed my dick and I literally busted, no fucking joke
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This story reminds me of this one :ROFLMAO: Kidding, precipitate w-d sounds pretty scary It never happened to me (and reinforces my idea that subs are EVIL) usually during opioid w-d I just masturbate as if I was 11 years old and I m terrified at the prospect of a permanent premature ejaculation , which makes the w-d anxiety and depression even worse.Physically wise my w-d have never been so unbearable (genetic? ROA because I usually smoke smack and parachute crushed oxy pills, I ve IVed very rarely?sheer luck?) with kratom + loperamide + some benzos and or quetiapine I manage. But mentally I am a wreck, depression, anxiety, everything is either too difficult or too boring or both, and here comes Miss cocaine along with booze and downers and after a while I m even more fucked up than on opioids. At least with opioids I know what to expect (17 years of on off functional addiction) with coke, especially cheap good one available 24-24 7-7 like here in Brazil I m basically a newbie and all bets are off....
 
skipjames said:
This story reminds me of this one :ROFLMAO: Kidding, precipitate w-d sounds pretty scary It never happened to me (and reinforces my idea that subs are EVIL) usually during opioid w-d I just masturbate as if I was 11 years old and I m terrified at the prospect of a permanent premature ejaculation , which makes the w-d anxiety and depression even worse.Physically wise my w-d have never been so unbearable (genetic? ROA because I usually smoke smack and parachute crushed oxy pills, I ve IVed very rarely?sheer luck?) with kratom + loperamide + some benzos and or quetiapine I manage. But mentally I am a wreck, depression, anxiety, everything is either too difficult or too boring or both, and here comes Miss cocaine along with booze and downers and after a while I m even more fucked up than on opioids. At least with opioids I know what to expect (17 years of on off functional addiction) with coke, especially cheap good one available 24-24 7-7 like here in Brazil I m basically a newbie and all bets are off....
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Jizzing in the pants is real people!
 
skipjames said:
:ROFLMAO: Kidding, precipitate w-d sounds pretty scary It never happened to me (and reinforces my idea that subs are EVIL) usually during opioid w-d I just masturbate as if I was 11 years old and I m terrified at the prospect of a permanent premature ejaculation , which makes the w-d anxiety and depression even worse.Physically wise my w-d have never been so unbearable (genetic? ROA because I usually smoke smack and parachute crushed oxy pills, I ve IVed very rarely?sheer luck?) with kratom + loperamide + some benzos and or quetiapine I manage. But mentally I am a wreck, depression, anxiety, everything is either too difficult or too boring or both, and here comes Miss cocaine along with booze and downers and after a while I m even more fucked up than on opioids. At least with opioids I know what to expect (17 years of on off functional addiction) with coke, especially cheap good one available 24-24 7-7 like here in Brazil I m basically a newbie and all bets are off....
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Yea was the same for me man down and soft, at least that's what they call heroin and cocaine here but yea I was doing it speedball style in the needle, I used to start going crazy when I would do coke all day I started thinking shit was crawling out of my skin, got off that stuff 4 years ago and got off the methadone 3 y ago Ill just say its worth it
 
Branggen said:
Yea was the same for me man down and soft, at least that's what they call heroin and cocaine here but yea I was doing it speedball style in the needle, I used to start going crazy when I would do coke all day I started thinking shit was crawling out of my skin, got off that stuff 4 years ago and got off the methadone 3 y ago Ill just say its worth it
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Well done! especially getting off the methadone. Many mates of mine have been hooked to that shite for like...20 years now, maybe for some hardcorers can be a lifesaver but for the majority of H users is just an overkill, trading an addiction with a worse one.....
 
It’s a great question. Most people on opioids don’t even realize that their testosterone levels are being inhibited. I’ll share my experience with you. Over half my life spent on methadone, heroin, and fentanyl more recently. All day, everyday. Last time my testosterone levels were tested (while on opioids), I was at 18ng/dl. Doctor thought it was a mistake, said that 18ng is roughly what a pre-teen female would have in her system.
My sex drive for over 20 years was 0/10. Absolutely non-existent.

I got on suboxone, and within 6 weeks my levels were already up to 300ng. So to answer your question, NO it’s not permanent. If my 27 years of hard core use didn’t kill my testosterone production, it certainly wouldn’t do that to you after a few months on tramadol. I question whether the tramadol is even responsible for your issue. You should definitely see a urologist/endocrinologist and make sure there isn’t another issue there.

Also, I should mention that even with my levels so low, I never experienced erectile dysfunction or gynecomastia. You might have elevated estrogen. Definitely get checked out before doing the TRT mate. Best of luck.
 
Branggen said:
Yea was the same for me man down and soft, at least that's what they call heroin and cocaine here but yea I was doing it speedball style in the needle, I used to start going crazy when I would do coke all day I started thinking shit was crawling out of my skin, got off that stuff 4 years ago and got off the methadone 3 y ago Ill just say its worth it
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Good for you mate. I know from experience how hard it was to beat methadone. Even harder than fentanyl imo, due to the ridiculous half life.
 
Shant said:
Good for you mate. I know from experience how hard it was to beat methadone. Even harder than fentanyl imo, due to the ridiculous half life.
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Yea Its more one that you gotta do slow, I was actually lucky that where I live the option to go from methadone to slow release morphine was available and tapering off that I think is easier as it only lasts 24 hrs vs methadone a couple days
 
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Branggen said:
Yea Its more one that you gotta do slow, I was actually lucky that where I live the option to go from methadone to slow release morphine was available and tapering off that I think is easier as it only lasts 24 hrs vs methadone a couple days
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Interesting, never heard of morphine being used to treat addiction. For me, I was on 90mg of methadone. simply dropped the methadone, switched to heroin, then used the Burnese method, slipping in suboxone little by little. Started with 1mg, continued to do heroin like normal. After about a week I was up to 4mg of suboxone. Continued doing heroin like normal. By the time I got up to 6mg, I couldn’t feel the tar anyway. So I just stopped the heroin, continued with the subs. Easy peasy, zero withdrawal.
 
Shant said:
Interesting, never heard of morphine being used to treat addiction. For me, I was on 90mg of methadone. simply dropped the methadone, switched to heroin, then used the Burnese method, slipping in suboxone little by little. Started with 1mg, continued to do heroin like normal. After about a week I was up to 4mg of suboxone. Continued doing heroin like normal. By the time I got up to 6mg, I couldn’t feel the tar anyway. So I just stopped the heroin, continued with the subs. Easy peasy, zero withdrawal.
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Yea I heard about that, I guess it wasnt really a thing when they were putting me on it in like 2018-19
 
Is it true that you have permsnent orgasm from heroin wizhdrawal?
Like one touch in your skin and u orhasm? But in an uncomfortable way?
 
Byzek said:
Is it true that you have permsnent orgasm from heroin wizhdrawal?
Like one touch in your skin and u orhasm? But in an uncomfortable way?
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Happened to me once, and I wouldn't really call it uncomfortable I guess a little strange
 
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