Is Legalizing Weed Obama's Secret Weapon?

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In 2004 George W. Bush's re-election campaign worked to put anti-gay marriage ballot initiatives up for vote in several swing states in order to turn out more hard-core conservatives to the polls. This year the question is whether marijuana legalization measures will turn out young voters for Obama.

Bush's plan to use gay marriage bans -- in states that did not actually allow gay marriage -- as a turnout booster led to signs featuring icky public restroom symbols proliferated and liberal panic that the Christian right had taken over. The press obsessed over "values voters." One of Bush's aides, Ken Mehlman, who later came out as gay himself, has apologized for the strategy, two others say it didn't work.

This year there's another incumbent president with modest approval ratings who could turn out his base with controversial ballot measures. But this time, the issue features no biblical or scatological imagery. In 2012, voters in swing states will decide whether they'll allow their fellow citizens to bear joints. Unlike the gay marriage votes, there's no indication that Obama's re-election team is behind any of the pot legalization initiatives, but there are Democrats who are hoping that it will boost turnout among weed's biggest fans: young people.

Getting more young people to vote has long been a Democratic fantasy, since they tend to vote so heavily Democratic. But past attempts to bong the vote have been disappointing, in part because stoners aren't the group anyone would most count on to bother filling out a ballot. Ahead of the 2010 midterms, The Wall Street Journal ran the story, "Democrats Look to Cultivate Pot Vote in 2012," noting that California's pot-legalizing Proposition 19 was being studied to see if similar measures "could energize young, liberal voters in swing states for the 2012 presidential election." But exit polls that year showed no spike in young voter turnout, and marijuana legalization was the top issue for just 1 in 10 voters, the Los Angeles Times reported. (Also: Californians ended up voting down Prop. 19.) Still, there were hopeful signs: 64 percent of voters 18-to-24 supported it, and 52 percent of voters 25-to-29 did. In March, the pro-legalization site Just Say Now suggested that the presidential election will draw more young people to the polls, and they'll vote for pot legalization while they're there.

That being said, several have argued that this could be the year for pro-marijuana turnout. After all, 2011 was the first year more young people smoked pot than cigarettes, the CDC says. There is a marijuana initiative on the ballot in Washington, and there might be one in Nebraska and Massachusetts, but those states are pretty solid for one party or the other. Here's our guide to whether pot politics could make an impact in the swing states considering new marijuana rules:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/06/legalizing-weed-obamas-secret-weapon/
 
maybe they think the pro Mj people are stupid but...if Obama wanted the pothead vote then why would he have continued the raids on MMJ despenceraries? they tried touting a more lax stance on MJ 4 years ago and then quickly flipped back to the old status puo. Why would por MJ people trust a word he says about the issuze?
 
Hopefully people will see through Obama's bs. I don't think he intends on doing anything of the sort and even if he does, he will just lie and change his mind like pretty much all politicians.
 
if people weren't sheeple, they'd see through this shit just like the whole gay marriage thing a couple weeks ago

politicians are disgusting
 
Do you think Romney getting in is going to improve things for the cause of ending prohibition?

I get that people feel betrayed, but Obama is still the better option by a huge margin. A Republican win will set legalization back years, is it worth it just for some petty, childish revenge?
 
Do you think Romney getting in is going to improve things for the cause of ending prohibition?

I get that people feel betrayed, but Obama is still the better option by a huge margin. A Republican win will set legalization back years, is it worth it just for some petty, childish revenge?

I don't think anyone has a clue what Romney will do to drugs if elected. But, I imagine that any increased persecution of drug users will mobilize the media into an anti-prohibition campaign. That could incite a popular revolution (of sorts), and push the issue to the forefront in the 2016 election.
 
maybe they think the pro Mj people are stupid but...if Obama wanted the pothead vote then why would he have continued the raids on MMJ despenceraries? they tried touting a more lax stance on MJ 4 years ago and then quickly flipped back to the old status puo. Why would por MJ people trust a word he says about the issuze?
who raided the dispensaries?
do you think obama really had a say in whether or not these raids happened?
i'm not necessarily asking this as a hypothetical question; i'm not american so i genuinely don't know.
but what i'm getting at is that i doubt it was obama's call. he's not the head of the FBI, or the FDA or whoever carried out such raids.

i just hope america can affect some progressive change in drug legislation. not only for the sake of the american people, but all of the countries that are unable to liberalise their stupid drug laws because the united states threatens them with diplomatic and trade sanctions if they do so.
it's a shame that policy that is so crucial, and has implications across the globe is only (potentially) considered for the sake of cynical wedge-politics...but anything that can chip away at the insane 'war on drugs' is a good thing.
 
I don't think anyone has a clue what Romney will do to drugs if elected. But, I imagine that any increased persecution of drug users will mobilize the media into an anti-prohibition campaign. That could incite a popular revolution (of sorts), and push the issue to the forefront in the 2016 election.

You're kidding right, you really think there's the slightest chance that a rich upper class mormon republican is going to be better for legalization than Obama? Obviously he's going to be worse.

You really think trying to 'spark an anti-prohibition campaign' by electing a prohibitionist republican governor is somehow going to help the cause? Madness.
 
You really think trying to 'spark an anti-prohibition campaign' by electing a prohibitionist republican governor is somehow going to help the cause? Madness.

I don't think that Romney would be so far to the right as to incite a cultural revolution. I think he'd be more or less lukewarm on the issue.

But imagine a hypothetical president who is an uber-prohibitionist (like Gingrich maybe). The media would mobilize en masse against him and many careers would be created to solely oppose prohibition. Those journalists would push the issue to the fore in 2016, and the country would forever be changed.
 
You really think we're at that stage? Bush was pretty damn prohibitionist and there was no uprising. I think you're fantasizing here mate, it's not going to be that simple.
 
who raided the dispensaries?
do you think obama really had a say in whether or not these raids happened?
i'm not necessarily asking this as a hypothetical question; i'm not american so i genuinely don't know.
but what i'm getting at is that i doubt it was obama's call. he's not the head of the FBI, or the FDA or whoever carried out such raids.

i just hope america can affect some progressive change in drug legislation. not only for the sake of the american people, but all of the countries that are unable to liberalise their stupid drug laws because the united states threatens them with diplomatic and trade sanctions if they do so.
it's a shame that policy that is so crucial, and has implications across the globe is only (potentially) considered for the sake of cynical wedge-politics...but anything that can chip away at the insane 'war on drugs' is a good thing.

The DEA Falls under the department of justice and they are under the complete control of the president. Obama said that he would stop the raids on MMJ despenceraries and not only did they continue they got worse.

I am sure that he did not specifically tell the DEA to conduct the raids but when they continued after he anounced publicly that they should not be happening it became his job to to insure that his words were carried out be his subordinates.

But that was not the plan...the plan was to get the pro MMJ people on his side at the particular moment...what happened after that he couldn't care less about. That is how politics works here. no one is sinsere and no one really wants to help the people. they want the power/notariety and the ability to fill their pockets with tax-payer money. they will say anything at any moment if they think it will better their chances at getting to that goal.
 
^ yup, the politics of the western world is a vapid, cynical disgrace.
i just try to see whatever positives there are in such a situation, because there is nothing i can do about changing the way things are...so getting pissed off about it is kinda pointless. this isn't to say that it doesn't piss me off, but still - if there is a way the US government can tone down this war on drugs behemoth, it will have benefits the world over.*
if they keep feeding it, it will keep lumbering on, destroying everything in its wake.
hypocritical, cynical or not, i want to see change. politics is all about games and cheap shots, so i don't care how or why it happens. it is bigger than this election, it is bigger than american politics.


*(an example of what i'm talking about is that there was talk of a prescription-heroin trial for maintenance patients in australia a few years ago. it was scuttled by the US state department [of all 'people'] who threatened to shut down australia's legal pharmaceutical opium farming industry - and other economic sanctions - if something so innocuous as a medical trial for treating addicts went ahead. pure, unbridled insanity that goes well beyond the borders of the united states - it is disturbing, and one way or another, it has to stop.
baby steps i can handle. inaction, and christian fundamentalist republicans, i cannot. regardless of the nitty-gritty, i hope this story is true).
 
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