Is it wrong to hurt people just because i'm hurt??

[littlepenguin]

it's alright man. he didn't say many nice things but i think he means well.



no i'm in the wrong here, i know this and she probably deserves better. i need pussy in the same away an addict needs dope. i neeed it. i may need it less than food, water, shelter and my computer but since i already have those bases covered i can move on to the next highest priority - procreation. and i'm too young to go to bars... 6 more months xD. no it's not okay to step on other people to get ahead but nobody is gonna look out for me and my feelings and my needs but myself and it's not my duty to look out for her feelings either. but guess what, i did and for no good reason. the only reason you don't do bad is because you don't have the power to. maybe one day you'll realize that you're just as selfish, just as wicked as i am.

I am not a he, I am a she, thank you.

You say I "don't do bad because I don't have the power to?"

that is laughable, at best...

"it's not my duty to look out for her feelings either, but guess what, i did and for no good reason..."

you're right - it's not your job to look out for her feelings, or anyone else's for that matter... That is, if you weren't dating her. As far as I know, if I am in a relationship with somebody, whether it be a romantic or platonic, I would expect someone to look out for my feelings at times because that's what friends do for each other - at least, in my book.
You get back what you put out - which means, I set myself up to have great friends and lovers who have and do take the time to look out for me and my feelings.
and don't you worry - I will never realize that I am as selfish or wicked as you portray yourself to be, because, well...I'm not. I don't do good duties for others just to gain something - I do it because I want to, and because I believe it's the right thing to do. Sometimes, actually more often than not, I take a hit as a result of this behaviour - hell, maybe you're the right one here - step all over everybody to get where you need to be and to get what you want, no matter who's feelings you hurt - or be a dumb sucker like me and do selfless deeds that have no gain whatsoever and/or cause personal loss.
Who knows? Keep on keepin' on...I hope it works well for you, I truly do.

 

[Lost Ego]

^ I suppose you've never heard of the ring of gyges?

 

[Lazaraus45]

Aren't there any house parties/festivals etc to go to? it's an easy enough way to pull and most girls aren't looking for a commitment

 

[Pagey]

no it's not okay to step on other people to get ahead but nobody is gonna look out for me, my feelings and my needs but myself; and it's not my duty to look out for her feelings either.

That's a lonely way to look at the world...and I sincerely doubt it's going to bring you any kind of long-term happiness or satisfaction. I agree with littlepenguin 100%, you do actually have a duty to look out for her feelings seeing as you're in a relationship with her. That's a commitment and a promise that you're there to make each other happy. Not just for your own self-interest - relationships do carry a duty and anyone who doesn't at least try to follow through with it really doesn't deserve much respect IMO. If you're as addicted to sex as you claim you are I'm pretty sure you'd find a way to get around being underage and you'd go pick up chicks in bars. I managed to get gear when I had no cash without even hurting anyone, if this is the same thing you'll be able to have underage one night stands without hurting anyone either, no ?

Seriously, get a grip on yourself. She deserves better. I've been a bitch many times in my life but taking advantage of somebody's feelings and naivety when they've never done anything to hurt you is just low and pathetic.
And I also think you need some 'tough love' and not some coddling and reassurance that you've had a hard time and it's thus justified for you to be a prick. It's not. We've all had hard times, find another way to deal with it.

 

[Lost Ego]

yes ma'am...

btw i said that i was going to depict myself as a monster because i FELT like one. I don't anymore and i don't feel that way anymore. I came into this thread wanting to be the catalyst in hopes of bringing out extremely good people and i did. i mean... i did the right thing, it's over now. i'm aware that it's my duty to look out for the other person when i'm entering an emotional relationship. i just wanted to argue so i could get all the answers for why to be good, why to be compassionate, why to care... that's really all i needed to make my decision.

i mean i'm not gonna say that i didn't wanna have sex with this girl and that i didn't consider how it'd hurt her if i did. but i had moral qualms and didn't want to make this decision again. turns out people telling me i was a piece of shit actually helped me resist temptation.

 

[Pagey]

^I noticed you said that, which is why I thought it would be more beneficial for you to hear my honest not sugar-coated opinion

 

[Lost Ego]

I appreciate it pagey. You're beautiful btw.

Feel free to close this thread, it's served it's purpose.

 

[Beachcat]

I will close this per op's request.

I think this was a really interesting discussion but I am not sure if anything more productive will come of it.

Lost Ego, just PM me if you want it reopened.