Busty, regardless of whether or not there are a concentrated amount of dolphins in a particular area, they are still endangered and you still shouldn't eat them.
You say that there could be 10,000 in the bay. Don't know where you got this number from, but okay. How many will there be in a hundred years if they continue to be eaten? How many was there a thousand years ago?
A single number without context is meaningless.
As for Charles Darwin, his work is 150 years old and although he hypothesized about evolution, most of his species specific statements turned out to be wrong. In terms of modern science, his 150 year old theories are not considered particularly relevant.
The idea that the root tip, in particular the radicular zone is the plants "brain" was first proposed by Charles Darwin..... I think he was a famous scientist or something.
Show me a modern study that concludes that plants have the ability to think. Maybe there is one out there, but it certainly isn't the general consensus. Most studies indicate the opposite.
Galileo (I think he was a famous scientist or something) believed that the sun was at the center of the universe and that everything revolved around it.
No, but you cut down trees to build houses, have paper, burn a fire, etc. We all take life. Even vegans.
Okay but this discussion is largely a comparison between eating plant material and eating animals. A number of people have said that plants feel pain when they are cut down. Do you really believe that plants feel pain when (for example) an apple is removed?
Thedeceased, i'm going to have to disagree with you about fish not being smart. They are some of the most amazing "animals" on this planet. Now I'll come back with a inteligent argument. But for now I can tell you fish wont bite any lure, they are very gun shy. Fish are very perceptive about what's going on in there environment around them and adapt accordinly.
I've done a little reading and I still don't think fish are particularly intelligent. I disagree that they're the most amazing animals. Learning not to go near fishing lures is not proof of individual conscious decision making, as people have been fishing for a long time and all animals naturally build defenses against predators. I'm sure they have some level of intelligence, don't get me wrong, but I don't think it is considerable enough to convince me that they have the capacity to suffer.
As for Oysters, they just cant move. There living creatures to,
They are living, but are they capable of suffering? If yes, explain your reasoning. Why would they be capable of suffering any more than a plant?
however I dont think it's bad killing any fish/oysters if your going to eat all of them. That's what you gotta live by.
Yeah but if it's wrong to eat certain species, as we've established, so which species is it right/wrong to eat? Rather than just not thinking about it, and consuming everything, including endangered species, I'd rather be in touch with what I'm doing and how I feel about it. I don't want to cause suffering.
Anyways let me come back with some more ammo.
Please do.
Thanks people, for contributing valid arguments. It's frustrating when threads are taken over by stubborn insistence rather than the proposition of ideas.