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Heroin is it normal to not feel the effects of H after a year + clean?

Swift Serenity

Swift Serenity

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so today i shot up again. idk why :? but its whatever. the question is, i took a 30 unit dosage and it wasnt how i used to take them but it wasnt light you know? anyway, i never really felt a big effect on me. is it cause the dope sucked or should i have taken more? i stashed it away and saving it for thursday. unless i can find a way to see how pure it is?


thanks guys.
 
it comes in on and off waves, but not really much of an effect at all. i mean im really chill but thats about it, and i smoked some green. sorry for double post
 
I have not heard of opiates not working after long breaks, so I would question the quality.

I highly recommend using an ROA other than IV after taking long breaks. Smoking or snorting it are a lot safer ways to take it with a lowered tolerance. There isn't much of a reason to jump straight back into IVing the drug, considering most people don't begin to IV until their tolerance gets high.
 
i always wanted to try smoking it. how do i do that? and i IV cause well, idk.. but yeah. should it of hit me a lot harder than it did?
 
I imagine two forces are at work here... first, your dope is probably not very good; and second, you probably had unrealistically high expectations.

I feel like everyone, myself included, is chasing that one unbelievable, unimaginable, indescribable and unattainable high... after a year clean, I don't blame you for thinking, "oh man, this is gonna be it!" only to be disappointed.
 
As Tommy said, there really isn't much of a reason to be shooting H after abstaining for so long. And I gotta 100% agree with the above post by Verso. Be careful dude.
 
What are you guys talking about "there's no reason to shoot up after being clean so long"?... That makes precisely zero sense. Hah. IV'ing is exponentially better than any other ROA, especially with something like Heroin, which comes with the amazing rush you only get when you shoot up. Most of us serious users, who have made the jump to IV'ing, (whether we initially did it because our tolerance was high or whatever the reason), can not go back to snorting or smoking hah. That's like going from having sex every day with a supermodel, to jerking off alone in your basement... :-/ Yes, though it can be dangerous because your tolerance is much lower, you just do a lower dose to start off. Hah, but you don't snort it or smoke it. Most of us, including me, could have three bundles of prime dope sitting on our dresser, but if we don't have any rigs at the moment..we wont just snort the shit, no matter how sick we might be. It's looked upon like a complete waste and if you're forced to take a tiny bump because you're hurting so bad you can't even make it to the drug store, you're pissed that you had to even waste that much. You wait until you can pick up a rig, and then go to town... So, unless my ten plus years of being a junkie and spending time with other junkies has failed me..this is how it is.


As to the OP's original question, chances are the dope was just crap, or you didn't do enough. There have been times where I expected my tolerance to be way lower than it was because I had been clean for a while. But the fact is, after so long of using..your body will never dip below a certain tolerance, at least not for quite some time. You'd be surprised what the body and mind remembers even after a year of not using. It's still the smart move to start of slow anyway your first time back but, your tolerance probably isn't as low as you think it might be.

Anyway, thats my two cents.

Good luck.
 
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I completely understand when people that IV don't sniff at all when they are hooked, but the OP has taken a year off so will get high either way. I've used both ROAs but never cared for the IV rush and the high didn't last as long as with snorting, so I still sniff my dope.

Most people that IV do so after taking a long break, which is why I was suggesting other ROAs.
 
People IV because of the rush.........I have been clean for a while and would never dream of snorting it, its a complete waste of dope...To answer the OP's question, there was a point a couple years ago that I had quit doing dope for about a year as well. When I first started again, I experienced exactly what u are experiencing. Except in addition to not getting high, it made me really sick and I'd puke a lot. And I know the dope was good because my friends I was with got the exact same stuff and said it was really good and were more than happy to buy my remaining 2 bundles off me lmao. They couldn't understand why it was making me feel that way either. And the more I did the sicker I got so I just stopped and sold/gave them the rest. It actually took quite some time for me to feel the familiar rush and high again. It was the weirdest thing I ever experienced and until I read your post I thought I was the only one this had happened to.

I thought I was allergic to the cut in the dope but sure enough the next batch we got was different but I still got that effect from it. Like I said it took a while for me to get the rush/high back.

Why would anyone ever question why you shoot heroin....That's what its meant for, your honestly IMO wasting it if you snort or smoke it...Nowhere near the feeling you get from banging a few fire bags :) :). Ugh good thing I've been clean on subs for a while cause I just watched that Drugs Inc. show on national geographic about heroin, then reading your thread...LOL...Hope this helped a little. Unfortunately I don't have a solution for you. Sorry.
 
I felt the same way when I try to justify riggin' up dope day after day for months... it turns it much more detrimental in the long-run for both addiction, withdrawals and health. I ended up using the same rig multiple times, even bleaching it out ughh... just so I could IV to not "waste it" and get my rush.

There are techniques about preparing the foil by heating it and placing the dope on the dull side after heating the shiny side. Form a crease so that you can chase the dope down the foil in a somewhat neat line (so that you don't roast it all on one spot) and make sure you put the straw above the dope somewhat (you need to find the perfect suction zone) to the area in which the smoke rises and make sure you have to decently strong, but not strong enough to suck up rocks or powder, suction the smoke doesn't escape into the air. It takes practice and now I've found my self to be quite skilled at chasing the dragon. As though it's a good thing haha....
 
axe battler said:
your tolerance never goes completely down to zero (thought it will get close to), and, as stated above, weak gear and high expectations.

edit: also if you're in the USA, i wouldn't bother smoking unless it's tar.
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Yea the I've never heard of someone smoking dope from bags. Its too fine of powder IMO. I've smoked dope before but it was rocked up.
 
My dope isn't black tar, but a sandy tan/white solid rock. It smokes perfectly fine and you can milk plenty of hits out of a little pebble. I'd love to give black tar a smoke sometime though since I quit bangin' it up. Insufflation and smoking are my preferred ROA. Although, I did love the IV route a little too much. With my personality when I IV, I binge.
 
yeah ive came to the conclusion it was just some weak ass dope. i mean last night i ddint a really dark shot and it still didnt hit me after 3 of those. guess i have to wait till next week or whenever there is a new batch in cause that was some garbage
 
so sniffing is "a complete waste of dope" huh?

do me a favor, all of you, and take a picture of your rage face when you miss a shot lol and be sure to post it here for me to see

the truth is that if you're using regularly, whether you sniff it or shoot it, you're going to be back in the same boat regardless; we've seen it numerous times before... someone posts a thread, "I have to sniff at least five bags to get high, so I'm going to switch to shooting it!" aaaaaaand then they report back a week later, "I have to shoot five bags to get high!"

so in the end, what's the difference, really? that for a couple days you were able to shoot just one or two bags and get high? well whoop-dee-fucking-doo! and the rush? I don't care about the rush... I'm content with slowly coming up and staying high for longer.

"a waste of dope" ... yeah, OK! 8)
 
^ I agree, but you forgot about the "help, missed shot?!?!," "is this an abscess?," "did I hit an artery?," and all the other fun threads about things that come along with IV use.

Given that this is a Harm Reduction website, I have to advise the OP to at least test out the dope using other ROAs before deciding on the needle again.
 
Swift Serenity said:
so today i shot up again. idk why :? but its whatever. the question is, i took a 30 unit dosage and it wasnt how i used to take them but it wasnt light you know? anyway, i never really felt a big effect on me. is it cause the dope sucked or should i have taken more? i stashed it away and saving it for thursday. unless i can find a way to see how pure it is?


thanks guys.
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The dope sucked. Being off for a year, a decent bag of IV heroin could cause you to OD. Snorting a decent bag after a year off would have you in the depths of Noddingham Palace.
 
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