Is it normal to feel depressed and like life has no meaning after quitting hydro?

oxy_ghost:

I'm sorry to hear all the problems you've had... I hope you're still going strong and won't use again... you got a daughter and a fiance, use that as your motivator man, i dont think there could be a better reason to stop....

My only reason to stop is that its wrong.. and well money also cause i dont get them cheap

Thank I'm trying to stay strong. I'm watching TV and the show i was watching ended with a father reunited with his wife and child. I have to stop and hold the tears back cuz that's all I want for my self, to be reunited with my family:(

But yeah I'm doing it more for them than I am myself. I was never a father to my daughter, the drugs made it feel like a burden. It's enough for me to get clean and stay clean. I'm wanna be a real father
 
Thank I'm trying to stay strong. I'm watching TV and the show i was watching ended with a father reunited with his wife and child. I have to stop and hold the tears back cuz that's all I want for my self, to be reunited with my family:(

But yeah I'm doing it more for them than I am myself. I was never a father to my daughter, the drugs made it feel like a burden. It's enough for me to get clean and stay clean. I'm wanna be a real father

I'm glad to hear you're still sticking to it, probably on like your 7th day now... I'm in my 5th and I already texted my dealer today trying to get more... I bought them last 1 month ago and i know he gets them once a month so I feel like any day now I'll have them or maybe im wrong and i hope i am cause last week he texted me telling me he had them but didnt in the end... I KNOW that i will buy them if he has them, i just know it.. and of course i tell myself it'll be the last time
 
Oxy_ghost:

idk if you're feeling up to it man or if u still have physical symptoms but you should try to work out... I've been cranking pull ups and push ups like crazy these past few days and it does help and i just came back from a 4 mile run with some walking too and i feel so much better... Last year in april i could run like 11 miles, and i used to look forward all day to my runs.. i want to go back to that, change what i look forward too.. the pull ups i hate them but it makes me feel good cause when i started in my senior of high school i couldnt even do one and i worked my way up to 25 in a row... i say working out and setting goals and achieving them will make u feel good man.. idk the kind of shape ur in though but anything would be good
 
Oxy_ghost:

idk if you're feeling up to it man or if u still have physical symptoms but you should try to work out... I've been cranking pull ups and push ups like crazy these past few days and it does help and i just came back from a 4 mile run with some walking too and i feel so much better... Last year in april i could run like 11 miles, and i used to look forward all day to my runs.. i want to go back to that, change what i look forward too.. the pull ups i hate them but it makes me feel good cause when i started in my senior of high school i couldnt even do one and i worked my way up to 25 in a row... i say working out and setting goals and achieving them will make u feel good man.. idk the kind of shape ur in though but anything would be good

I'm not in good shape haha I mean not fat or anything. I'm like 5' 8" 140 pounds but I've been smoking cigs for like 8 years and it's really taken a toll on me. I can't run for more than 100 feet without being totally exhausted. When I was in highschool I used to skateboard. I was good, almost got sponsored by redbull at one point and that's when I was in great shape. Then I darters smoking cigs and weed and hanging out with different ppl, none of which skated, so I grew out of the sport. I started getting into muscle cars and working on them and obviously you don't have to be in shape for that haha. But I've got some weights I could use to lift and I can do push ups and sit ups fine but running is another story. I don't even wanna run.

I tried to join the military not too long ago and I started doing conditioning to get ready. Running was hard but I forced myself to do it but later on i found out I would never be able to join any branch because of a "condition" I have even though it doesn't and has never affected my health. Some stupid rule the assholes at the DoD made up. It put me into slight depression cuz I had my life all figured out, the military was how I was gonna support my family, I could've made over $3000 a week and got free housing and food. It was how I was gonna straighten myself out so finding out I would never be able to join no matter what I did, was a huge blow to take. I felt like my life was over and I didn't know what I was gonna do

But anyways, once it warms up, it supposed to be nice for th rest of the week, than I'm gonna get outside and work. There's a big bank behind my house and the brush needs to be cleared so that's what I'm gonna do
 
I'm not in good shape haha I mean not fat or anything. I'm like 5' 8" 140 pounds but I've been smoking cigs for like 8 years and it's really taken a toll on me. I can't run for more than 100 feet without being totally exhausted. When I was in highschool I used to skateboard. I was good, almost got sponsored by redbull at one point and that's when I was in great shape. Then I darters smoking cigs and weed and hanging out with different ppl, none of which skated, so I grew out of the sport. I started getting into muscle cars and working on them and obviously you don't have to be in shape for that haha. But I've got some weights I could use to lift and I can do push ups and sit ups fine but running is another story. I don't even wanna run.

I tried to join the military not too long ago and I started doing conditioning to get ready. Running was hard but I forced myself to do it but later on i found out I would never be able to join any branch because of a "condition" I have even though it doesn't and has never affected my health. Some stupid rule the assholes at the DoD made up. It put me into slight depression cuz I had my life all figured out, the military was how I was gonna support my family, I could've made over $3000 a week and got free housing and food. It was how I was gonna straighten myself out so finding out I would never be able to join no matter what I did, was a huge blow to take. I felt like my life was over and I didn't know what I was gonna do

But anyways, once it warms up, it supposed to be nice for th rest of the week, than I'm gonna get outside and work. There's a big bank behind my house and the brush needs to be cleared so that's what I'm gonna do

Dude, if you know about cars you can get a job fixing cars and stuff, they might require you to complete some course but if u know the stuff already u'd be fine and would be able to support them...
And idk I'm sure u don't feel like working out, and i do realize what ur going through is 1 million times worse but i am positive it will make you feel better... I know it made me feel so much better and healthy, a few days of doing pull ups and i start feeling ripped and strong again and i love that feeling and the run well i hate it at first but i always get some point which i love and today that point came at the end when i sprinted i felt so fucking good and got home and did 30 pull ups more, i had done 60 before.... I think exercise is like the best way to "cure" oneself, at least i think it works for me...

I already feel cured, i still want those pills but i know that is never going to change... After the first time i was high, i then only did it like 2 more times and couldn't again for like 4 months but i always missed it... so i know that i will ALWAYS miss it, fucking always...
 
Yeah I've tried to apply to garages for s job working on cars but they always require previous work expierence but to do that I would have to spend maybe 6 months in school. My little brother did it and he now works as a mechanic at a Chevrolet dealership. But I can't spend 6 more months without work. I mean could get a small side job and go to school but I don't think it would work out either. My fiancé will be working and I'd have to be home at some point to pick my daughter up from school and stuff. I don't have anyone else to do that. My age is also a factor. Basically there is a cut off age, and I'm pretty damn close to it. It's not something official, the state doesn't have a cut off age for certain jobs, it's just the employers don't want "older" employees. They want the young ones that will take whatever pay that's offered. The young kids don't expect or would ask to get paid like 10-15 dollars an hour. They're William to take $8. So ppl are gonna hire the young kids so they don't have to pay them so much. Employers know that the older ppl are gonna ask for more money. It sucks that it's this way cuz our economy is so fucked up

Anyways, if it's warm tomorrow than I'll be outside getting a "workout" by clearing off the hill. There's lots of logs and shit that needs to be moved and I'll be moving around a lot. I'm sure it's gonna make me feel much better. I always feel better when I can get out of the house and at least walk around doing stuff. And I'm gonna start lifting some weights and doing sit-ups and pull-ups. I'm scrony as hell. I need to build some muscle. I had for a while. I was working at a place that sells parts for motorcycles and ATV's. I worked in the tire section. Everyday I was unloading 18 wheelers full of motorcycle tires. You wouldn't think it but some of the tires are heavy as hell and we would have to carry 4 of them at a time and after a while they feel even heavier. I was developing serious muscle adter being there for 3 months. I also had to basically run everywhere when picking orders. I would get the slips with the order on it and I would find the tires, running from one end of the warehouse to the other with tires on my shoulders, pulling them off shelves. The hardest part and the part that gave me most of my muscle was when we would stock the tires we just unloaded off the trucks. One guy would stand at one end I the aisle and I would stand at the other. He would roll the tires to me, one right after another, I'd have to catch them and put them on the racks. The tires would come fast. By the time I got one tire on the rack, I'd immediate have to catch the next one. We would do this for like an hour or so straight. Taking no breaks, so it was a real work out. Working that job was like working out from 9am to 5pm with only a 30min break. I loved it but apparently I wasn't going fast enough so I was fired:(
 
yes it is completely normal to feel terribly depressed with zero motivation after quitting opiates..this general malaise and lethargy can last a long time too and the only thing i can recommend that helps is exercise and getting sunlight..no matter how much you dont feel like it, forcing yourself to do it will help..this general 'feel like shit' feeling is why most people relapse imo and NOT cravings..they get tired of the boring, drained, dysphoric feeling...
 
yes it is completely normal to feel terribly depressed with zero motivation after quitting opiates..this general malaise and lethargy can last a long time too and the only thing i can recommend that helps is exercise and getting sunlight..no matter how much you dont feel like it, forcing yourself to do it will help..this general 'feel like shit' feeling is why most people relapse imo and NOT cravings..they get tired of the boring, drained, dysphoric feeling...

Thank you for answering, I've now been 1 week clean and I feel a lot better already.. I woke up depressed today and felt that horrible sadness for 2 hours and now it's gone away and I'm about to go to work so that will keep me occupied... And even if I don't have a lot of experience I have to agree with u that that is prolly the main reason people relapse, at least at first... I'm sure I'll go back to normal soon enough because I didn't abuse it that much... I feel like once the sadness is completely gone I'll want to take the pills again to get high, thinking I can control it this time but I hope I don't cause I have learned that if I have a lot, they will control me... If I can get enough for only 1 or 2 days from a friend from time to time like i used to, I think that would be fine but not buying a month long supply like I did before, that is what got me into trouble
 
Thank you for answering, I've now been 1 week clean and I feel a lot better already.. I woke up depressed today and felt that horrible sadness for 2 hours and now it's gone away and I'm about to go to work so that will keep me occupied... And even if I don't have a lot of experience I have to agree with u that that is prolly the main reason people relapse, at least at first... I'm sure I'll go back to normal soon enough because I didn't abuse it that much... I feel like once the sadness is completely gone I'll want to take the pills again to get high, thinking I can control it this time but I hope I don't cause I have learned that if I have a lot, they will control me... If I can get enough for only 1 or 2 days from a friend from time to time like i used to, I think that would be fine but not buying a month long supply like I did before, that is what got me into trouble

Congrats on your 1 week clean. It is a great accomplishment and you have come further than you may believe. The PAWS will go away...in time. It probably will not happen over night, but it will happen.

I would strongly advise to NOT get "just enough pills for only 1 or 2 days"... that may certainly trigger a relapse.
 
Congrats on your 1 week clean. It is a great accomplishment and you have come further than you may believe. The PAWS will go away...in time. It probably will not happen over night, but it will happen.

I would strongly advise to NOT get "just enough pills for only 1 or 2 days"... that may certainly trigger a relapse.

Well, this girl who got me the 20 pills before has 5 left and I could have totally asked her for them today but I didn't.. Instead I told her everything I had been through and how sad I've been and how disgusted I was at myself... This is to me a great motivator not to use again, I mean that I told her that I would stop, that I hadn't realized they were so dangerous... So I don't plan on using... I am almost certain that in the future some day I will, I know that
 
Well, this girl who got me the 20 pills before has 5 left and I could have totally asked her for them today but I didn't.. Instead I told her everything I had been through and how sad I've been and how disgusted I was at myself... This is to me a great motivator not to use again, I mean that I told her that I would stop, that I hadn't realized they were so dangerous... So I don't plan on using... I am almost certain that in the future some day I will, I know that

How did she react to the news? I think in your OP you said you were scared to tell her cuz you didn't know how she'd take it. So I'm just curious to how it all went

And good job on not taking the few she had. Gotta have self control and the will power to say no
 
How did she react to the news? I think in your OP you said you were scared to tell her cuz you didn't know how she'd take it. So I'm just curious to how it all went

And good job on not taking the few she had. Gotta have self control and the will power to say no

Well I finally got her to understand they were dangerous and she now understands i really want to stop... She kept on saying that I was normal so that I was fine but I explained to her how sad I was getting and that I had been crying... She reacted well, she doesn't see me as a monster which is what i was afraid of.. I had probably the best day so far with her but I always feel like that.. She's always said how we've always had this instant connection, I can't believe how good we are together but she has a bf who is a fucking asshole and keep on breaking up... If anyone watches the office I feel like jim with pam, it's like that except this girl had a crush on me for a while when she met me... that's why i say i have to stop talking to her cause this is not healthy but I can't help it...

I should prolly get clean 100% and recovered before I do this because the thought of losing her from my life is just too much to bare for me right now
 
Well I finally got her to understand they were dangerous and she now understands i really want to stop... She kept on saying that I was normal so that I was fine but I explained to her how sad I was getting and that I had been crying... She reacted well, she doesn't see me as a monster which is what i was afraid of.. I had probably the best day so far with her but I always feel like that.. She's always said how we've always had this instant connection, I can't believe how good we are together but she has a bf who is a fucking asshole and keep on breaking up... If anyone watches the office I feel like jim with pam, it's like that except this girl had a crush on me for a while when she met me... that's why i say i have to stop talking to her cause this is not healthy but I can't help it...

I should prolly get clean 100% and recovered before I do this because the thought of losing her from my life is just too much to bare for me right now

Well I'm glad she understands your situation. Maybe one day she'll understand that her situation and that her bf is asshole and that if they keep breaking up and getting back together than obviously it's not working and maybe you two could have a future but at the same time, if she uses(I'm not sure I you said if she does or not) that it could be a bad thing for you. If your clean and she's not and doesn't want to be than that can drag you down. I tried many times to get my fiancé to stop because I wanted to get clean and I couldn't do it with her still using, I was dragged down every time. She didn't wanna quit so in a way I had no choice. I could've said fuck it but I wasn't gonna leave her. I love her more than anything and I wasn't gonna throw away the best 7 years of my life. It could also be a chance for you to help her. It's pretty risky though.
 
Well I'm glad she understands your situation. Maybe one day she'll understand that her situation and that her bf is asshole and that if they keep breaking up and getting back together than obviously it's not working and maybe you two could have a future but at the same time, if she uses(I'm not sure I you said if she does or not) that it could be a bad thing for you. If your clean and she's not and doesn't want to be than that can drag you down. I tried many times to get my fiancé to stop because I wanted to get clean and I couldn't do it with her still using, I was dragged down every time. She didn't wanna quit so in a way I had no choice. I could've said fuck it but I wasn't gonna leave her. I love her more than anything and I wasn't gonna throw away the best 7 years of my life. It could also be a chance for you to help her. It's pretty risky though.

Na man she doesn't use anything, she's never even tried anything except alcohol last weekend for the first time... She thinks drugs are really bad and doesn't approve of them but like i said she is really naive and thinks because they are prescription drugs they don't do anything and i have explained to her that is not even close to being true... Yeah u 2 should definitely stay clean and take of ur daughter man... You must be on like your 10th day now, how you feeling?? I haven't been depressed in over 24 hours already thank god.. I'm starting to get bored now and kinda feel some anxiety coming... Days like today that I don't do anything make me want those pills so fucking bad, I almost texted my dealer a bunch of times but I haven't, I know he doesn't have them anyway but I always asked him anyway to make sure... Hopefully in a week, 2 weeks, a month, whenever he does get them I'll be able to say FUCK NO!
 
Na man she doesn't use anything, she's never even tried anything except alcohol last weekend for the first time... She thinks drugs are really bad and doesn't approve of them but like i said she is really naive and thinks because they are prescription drugs they don't do anything and i have explained to her that is not even close to being true... Yeah u 2 should definitely stay clean and take of ur daughter man... You must be on like your 10th day now, how you feeling?? I haven't been depressed in over 24 hours already thank god.. I'm starting to get bored now and kinda feel some anxiety coming... Days like today that I don't do anything make me want those pills so fucking bad, I almost texted my dealer a bunch of times but I haven't, I know he doesn't have them anyway but I always asked him anyway to make sure... Hopefully in a week, 2 weeks, a month, whenever he does get them I'll be able to say FUCK NO!

Well that's good she doesn't use. I think it's weird that ppl will sell drugs or something but they won't do them. But I guess being a dealer that doesn't use is good, leaves more room for profit:) when I was using I wanted to be a dealer but I would've ended up snorting all my profit and probably would've ended up owing money to someone and my addiction would've gotten worse. But Id see all my dealers with stacks of fuckin cash and I wanted that so bad. I've never had a lot of money for myself. If get a few hundred buck every Christmas but that would most money I've had all year. The only time in my entire life that I've had over $1000usd is when my camaro got totaled and thy bank gave me $2200. That's the most money I've ever had so money is something that I wanted and still do.

But yeah I'm on day 10 and I'm feeling pretty good. It's been a nice day. It's warm and I got to get out of the house for a while and it some sun so I'm feeling better than I have. I haven't been depressed in 24 hours either. I'm starting to accept the fact that my fiancé is gonna be gone for a while and that's helped greatly.

I'm havin some cravings today thought but that's my fault. When I would snort pills I would get like a 4 inch piece of a straw, bend it in half and put the pill in it and crush it with my teeth and snort it out of the straw and when I was done I would fold the straw up and chew on it and I'm chewing on a straw I found in my pocket that I once used to snort a pill with:/.

Keep the mindset of saying "No" though, it's gonna help a lot. I haven't actually had to say no to any I my dealers yet except one of then like 8 days ago. I'm friends with my dealers on Facebook and I've posted about my recovery and getting clean on there so I'm sure they know and that's why they haven't asked me, thank god
 
Well that's good she doesn't use. I think it's weird that ppl will sell drugs or something but they won't do them. But I guess being a dealer that doesn't use is good, leaves more room for profit:) when I was using I wanted to be a dealer but I would've ended up snorting all my profit and probably would've ended up owing money to someone and my addiction would've gotten worse. But Id see all my dealers with stacks of fuckin cash and I wanted that so bad. I've never had a lot of money for myself. If get a few hundred buck every Christmas but that would most money I've had all year. The only time in my entire life that I've had over $1000usd is when my camaro got totaled and thy bank gave me $2200. That's the most money I've ever had so money is something that I wanted and still do.

But yeah I'm on day 10 and I'm feeling pretty good. It's been a nice day. It's warm and I got to get out of the house for a while and it some sun so I'm feeling better than I have. I haven't been depressed in 24 hours either. I'm starting to accept the fact that my fiancé is gonna be gone for a while and that's helped greatly.

I'm havin some cravings today thought but that's my fault. When I would snort pills I would get like a 4 inch piece of a straw, bend it in half and put the pill in it and crush it with my teeth and snort it out of the straw and when I was done I would fold the straw up and chew on it and I'm chewing on a straw I found in my pocket that I once used to snort a pill with:/.

Keep the mindset of saying "No" though, it's gonna help a lot. I haven't actually had to say no to any I my dealers yet except one of then like 8 days ago. I'm friends with my dealers on Facebook and I've posted about my recovery and getting clean on there so I'm sure they know and that's why they haven't asked me, thank god

Well she is not really a "dealer", she only sold them to me for way less money that i paid my real dealer because I asked her, she never would have even try to sell to anyone else.. She had given me everything she had in december for free..
Well I think most dealer have used and quit, they also see how desperate people get over them all the time so maybe that's why they dont use... My dealer told me he used to be addicted to them so he doesn't take them anymore.. Now see i got $3000 saved so I could buy a lot of shit but I won't, I'm moving out to an apartment with my friend in 2 months and I need every penny... Yesterday I told this guy at work No again when he tried to sell me pills, but I kinda feel he is full of it though, when my real dealer gets some idk how i'll say no, but I HAVE to...

Well that's really good man that u havent been depressed either, I mean what you went through is 1 million times worse than what i went through so if ur feeling fine after only 10 days that's awesome... I honestly feel fully recovered, like before i was feeling some anxiety but it ended there even though i was bored as fuck... it's been 3 hrs since that and I'm still fine... I am expecting to get all sad again sometime but clearly it is almost over which is scary too because it makes me think: "well it wasn't that bad after all, 8 days and im fine?.. maybe i should buy some more. 1 month of feeling awesome trumps 7 days of shit"/.. I have to fight that mindset
 
Well she is not really a "dealer", she only sold them to me for way less money that i paid my real dealer because I asked her, she never would have even try to sell to anyone else.. She had given me everything she had in december for free..
Well I think most dealer have used and quit, they also see how desperate people get over them all the time so maybe that's why they dont use... My dealer told me he used to be addicted to them so he doesn't take them anymore.. Now see i got $3000 saved so I could buy a lot of shit but I won't, I'm moving out to an apartment with my friend in 2 months and I need every penny... Yesterday I told this guy at work No again when he tried to sell me pills, but I kinda feel he is full of it though, when my real dealer gets some idk how i'll say no, but I HAVE to...

Well that's really good man that u havent been depressed either, I mean what you went through is 1 million times worse than what i went through so if ur feeling fine after only 10 days that's awesome... I honestly feel fully recovered, like before i was feeling some anxiety but it ended there even though i was bored as fuck... it's been 3 hrs since that and I'm still fine... I am expecting to get all sad again sometime but clearly it is almost over which is scary too because it makes me think: "well it wasn't that bad after all, 8 days and im fine?.. maybe i should buy some more. 1 month of feeling awesome trumps 7 days of shit"/.. I have to fight that mindset

Oh okay i see.

Man I'm just glad I'm at 10 days, I've never been this far before. When I was using, every week for 3 days I would withdraw and this happened for my entire few years of use. So I'm fed of with feeling like shit. I would start withdrawing the morning after my last dose of oxy or H. It wouldn't be too bad in the morning but by the time the evening came my legs would be killing me. Idk how I made it through the first few days. I guess knowing I could get anything helped but I tried my hardest to get my fix on the first night but nobody would let me get anything.

Good work man, stay strong!
 
Oh okay i see.

Man I'm just glad I'm at 10 days, I've never been this far before. When I was using, every week for 3 days I would withdraw and this happened for my entire few years of use. So I'm fed of with feeling like shit. I would start withdrawing the morning after my last dose of oxy or H. It wouldn't be too bad in the morning but by the time the evening came my legs would be killing me. Idk how I made it through the first few days. I guess knowing I could get anything helped but I tried my hardest to get my fix on the first night but nobody would let me get anything.

Good work man, stay strong!

Damn man, when you said u had taken oxy for 5 years i assumed you stopped every once in a while maybe for weeks at a time and always came back... well, then it's great you made it 10 days man, never take that shit again now that all those fucking withdrawal symptoms are gone... My legs keep hurting, that's the only symptom i have left, thing is i've always had this pain in my legs but lately it's gotten a hell of a lot worse which i assume is due to the hydro...
 
Damn man, when you said u had taken oxy for 5 years i assumed you stopped every once in a while maybe for weeks at a time and always came back... well, then it's great you made it 10 days man, never take that shit again now that all those fucking withdrawal symptoms are gone... My legs keep hurting, that's the only symptom i have left, thing is i've always had this pain in my legs but lately it's gotten a hell of a lot worse which i assume is due to the hydro...

Nah man, eventually the withdrawals get so bad that you get scare to quit. That's why I said that I was terrified of week days(Monday-Thursday). I knew there would be a few days every week that I wouldn't be able to use and I knew I'd withdraw and it scared me. The only time I was happy and not feeling like shit was on the weekend. The longest I've been sober other than now is 6 days and that was cuz I was in vacation and didn't have enough money to get anything except a bag of weed to take with me. And being on vacation while withdrawing sucks. We would go to the lake and I would kneeboard and wakeboard a lot so more the most part it kept my mind of withdrawals but there are some symps you just can't ignore.

And yeah my legs still hurt too but only really at night and in the morning.
 
Nah man, eventually the withdrawals get so bad that you get scare to quit. That's why I said that I was terrified of week days(Monday-Thursday). I knew there would be a few days every week that I wouldn't be able to use and I knew I'd withdraw and it scared me. The only time I was happy and not feeling like shit was on the weekend. The longest I've been sober other than now is 6 days and that was cuz I was in vacation and didn't have enough money to get anything except a bag of weed to take with me. And being on vacation while withdrawing sucks. We would go to the lake and I would kneeboard and wakeboard a lot so more the most part it kept my mind of withdrawals but there are some symps you just can't ignore.

And yeah my legs still hurt too but only really at night and in the morning.

Well now that you finally made it past them you should never use again then.. easier said than done i know... For me i think it is all over, haven't been depressed in almost 48 hrs, and that's with being bored and thinking about it for a long time today... I'm sure the physical symptoms suck a lot but in my case, the depression was the worst by far.. The only physical symptoms i got were just feeling with absolutely no energy, sweats and this fucking leg pain that still wont go away damn it... First time i had stop during this 2 months in which i only stopped for 2 days i got a cold, and a fever and depression... this time just the depression
 
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